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capicua wrote:Who said that “Under the wing, you know!
capicua wrote:My country is finding itself in dire straits and foreign airlines have been – understandably – pulling out of CCS to the tune of Ten Little Injuns. Lacking any remarkable recent trips to report on, I dug very deep into the memory chest and found a couple of pictures of a flight I took exactly 35 years ago today.
What a wonderful trip down memory lane. Thanks for sharing
Wasn't that Markus (Flieger67 or similar)? At one time it seemed that he was in competition with Plane Hunter to see who could upload their weekly trip report first.
But is is great that in those days you were able to move around so freely.
Thanks for posting. I love old trip reports.
I worked N143AA many times. I remember that it retained its Viasa galleys for about a year after delivery to AA before getting retrofitted with AA galleys. In those days, some DC-10 operators, including Viasa, had the life vests stowed in the seatback rather than underseat. Alternating seat backs contained life vests while others contained oxygen masks. The seats with the two little viewing windows in the seatback compartment contained the life vests for two seats.
Thank you! Fantastic trip report, very original and nostalgic.
great to see how you could recreate quite a few memories after all these years.....nice TR
Thank you for posting this vintage report. Your photos from VIASA are much appreciated.
Love the vintage stuff.
millionsofmiles wrote:Thanks for posting. I love old trip reports. I worked N143AA many times. I remember that it retained its Viasa galleys for about a year after delivery to AA before getting retrofitted with AA galleys. In those days, some DC-10 operators, including Viasa, had the life vests stowed in the seatback rather than underseat. Alternating seat backs contained life vests while others contained oxygen masks. The seats with the two little viewing windows in the seatback compartment contained the life vests for two seats.
capicua wrote:
In those days IFE consisted of a maximum of 10 music channels running on an endless loop (please refer to the inflight magazine for the programming…) and one feature film, two if the flight was long, three if it was really long (think FRA-EZE for example).
Thank you for this report! Especially for the details and a/c regos.
Spectacular! What a great thing to be able to travel back in time and read trip reports like this one...
I remember Viasa well with its MD-80s coming to my home country Barbados with the CCS-POS-BGI flights... later we had CCS-PMV-BGI flights with Aeropostal using anything from the DC-9-10s up to the MD-80s.
These classic trip reports are great.
Overall thanks a billion to the OP for such a fantastic trip report.
Did the VIASA airplanes have the lower lobe galleys or the main deck configuration?
And thank you for taking the time to post this trip back in time.
xtra1 wrote:I vaguely remember the DC10 centre bulkhead coat closets, here visible in 2 of the pictures. I think you hung your coat on a hanger and drags it up into a ceiling storage area?
CollegeAviator wrote:Fantastic trip report! Absolutely superb pictures of all planes, and the cabins!
N62NA wrote:I enjoyed this trip down memory lane quite a bit. Thank you.
avion660 wrote:Splendid! The cabin shots are great and the empty interior really reminds me of a VA flight I took in 1987 to SCL. After the Lima stop it went from packed to deserted and I could choose from many empty rows to get window views.
avion660 wrote:I seem to recall that the return to CCS was non-stop; a different routing which gave never bettered views of the Andes; all the volcanoes, salars, green lakes and Chuquicamata until clouds soon after, over Bolivia.
coyoteguy wrote:Excellent blast from the past. Thank you! Those were indeed the days.
ogre727 wrote:Amazing! I absolutely loved this TR.
ogre727 wrote:Any other trip reports you can do from the past?
capicua wrote:xtra1,xtra1 wrote:I vaguely remember the DC10 centre bulkhead coat closets, here visible in 2 of the pictures. I think you hung your coat on a hanger and drags it up into a ceiling storage area?
Now that you mention it and I see it in the picture I seem to remember this as well. I'm just not sure if the coats/jackets were pulled up electrically or manually.
CollegeAviator,CollegeAviator wrote:Fantastic trip report! Absolutely superb pictures of all planes, and the cabins!
Thanks!
I'm still catching up on your epic Xmas trip of a year ago! A start as bad as it gets but vastly improving along the way.
N62A,N62NA wrote:I enjoyed this trip down memory lane quite a bit. Thank you.
Thank you for stopping by and leaving a comment! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Your user name reminds me of a single DC-10-30 PanAm used to have around that time, N84A. For a certain time it came to CCS every day from MIA as, if my memory isn't all that rusty, Clipper 445.
avion660,avion660 wrote:Splendid! The cabin shots are great and the empty interior really reminds me of a VA flight I took in 1987 to SCL. After the Lima stop it went from packed to deserted and I could choose from many empty rows to get window views.
Thank you, avion660. Yes, once the flights continued from the cash-cow, cabin-filling first stops the continuing segments used to be very comfortable for the remaining passengers.avion660 wrote:I seem to recall that the return to CCS was non-stop; a different routing which gave never bettered views of the Andes; all the volcanoes, salars, green lakes and Chuquicamata until clouds soon after, over Bolivia.
You must have been very lucky then, or this was a common routing for VA in those days. I've flown this route several dozen times but never got to fly over land to see the features you were able to catch. Those views are sometimes possible on Chilean domestic flights though.
coyoteguy,coyoteguy wrote:Excellent blast from the past. Thank you! Those were indeed the days.
Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
ogre727,ogre727 wrote:Amazing! I absolutely loved this TR.
My pleasure, ogre 727. Thanks for dropping by.ogre727 wrote:Any other trip reports you can do from the past?
Unfortunately not!
I still recall a report of yours on a flight from IPC to SCL, also some years ago.
Cheers,
C.
millionsofmiles wrote:N84NA was the last remaining DC-10 in the Pan Am fleet after the rest of the DC-10 fleet went to American in exchange for some of AA's 747-123s. N84NA remained the sole remaining DC-10 at Pan Am for a little over a year until its sale to UA in early 1985. N84NA was a Series 30 (with lower lobe galleys) as were N80-N83. I've always wondered why either A. Pan Am chose to retain one DC-10, or B. AA chose not to take N84NA. Given how eager AA was to standardize on the -10, and how aggressively they were sourcing aircraft from other carriers, my guess is that Pan Am CHOSE not to include N84NA in the deal.
capicua wrote:as seen here on YV-138C and YV-135C
dcajet wrote:millionsofmiles wrote:N84NA was the last remaining DC-10 in the Pan Am fleet after the rest of the DC-10 fleet went to American in exchange for some of AA's 747-123s. N84NA remained the sole remaining DC-10 at Pan Am for a little over a year until its sale to UA in early 1985. N84NA was a Series 30 (with lower lobe galleys) as were N80-N83. I've always wondered why either A. Pan Am chose to retain one DC-10, or B. AA chose not to take N84NA. Given how eager AA was to standardize on the -10, and how aggressively they were sourcing aircraft from other carriers, my guess is that Pan Am CHOSE not to include N84NA in the deal.
At least one of Pan Am's DC-10-30s did a stint with LAN Chile in the early 80s before going to AA (and then Hawaiian) as N140AA. It was N81NA (46712/106) that carried Chilean reg CC-CJN. Together with other -10s from other sources, they flew the milk run EZE-SCL-MIA-JFK. The DC-10s left LAN around 1986, when the first 767-200s arrived.capicua wrote:as seen here on YV-138C and YV-135C
Until not that long ago, and long after Viasa's bankruptcy, one could see YV-135C @ EZE. It was written off during a landing accident in Nov. 1993. It sat at EZE's corrosion corner for at least 15 years until it was finally sold for scrap.
millionsofmiles wrote:dcajet wrote:millionsofmiles wrote:N84NA was the last remaining DC-10 in the Pan Am fleet after the rest of the DC-10 fleet went to American in exchange for some of AA's 747-123s. N84NA remained the sole remaining DC-10 at Pan Am for a little over a year until its sale to UA in early 1985. N84NA was a Series 30 (with lower lobe galleys) as were N80-N83. I've always wondered why either A. Pan Am chose to retain one DC-10, or B. AA chose not to take N84NA. Given how eager AA was to standardize on the -10, and how aggressively they were sourcing aircraft from other carriers, my guess is that Pan Am CHOSE not to include N84NA in the deal.
At least one of Pan Am's DC-10-30s did a stint with LAN Chile in the early 80s before going to AA (and then Hawaiian) as N140AA. It was N81NA (46712/106) that carried Chilean reg CC-CJN. Together with other -10s from other sources, they flew the milk run EZE-SCL-MIA-JFK. The DC-10s left LAN around 1986, when the first 767-200s arrived.capicua wrote:as seen here on YV-138C and YV-135C
Until not that long ago, and long after Viasa's bankruptcy, one could see YV-135C @ EZE. It was written off during a landing accident in Nov. 1993. It sat at EZE's corrosion corner for at least 15 years until it was finally sold for scrap.
Incorrect. N81NA (CC-CJN) served LAN Chile on lease from Pan Am between June 1981 and June 1982. It returned to Pan Am in 1982, and went to AA in 1984. It was not in service with LAN Chile until 1986, as you suggest.
N140AA did not go directly from AA to Hawaiian, as you also suggest. It was leased to Transaero between 1996 and 1998 before its lease to Hawaiian, serving the Moscow-LAX route, amongst others. It operated in a bare metal livery with a modified AA cheat line and Transaero tail logo. Her sisterships, N141AA and N142AA, also flew for Transaero.
The elevating coat closets were usually found at the 3 L/R crossaisle. There was a pull- up door, and just beneath the lower edge of the upper closet frame, there were buttons that controlled the up/down of the mechanism that raised/lowered the garments and garment bags. There was a mechanical release in the back of the closet. You would depress fhe toggle and the mechanism would come down.
N84NA was the last remaining DC-10 in the Pan Am fleet after the rest of the DC-10 fleet went to American in exchange for some of AA's 747-123s. N84NA remained the sole remaining DC-10 at Pan Am for a little over a year until its sale to UA in early 1985. N84NA was a Series 30 (with lower lobe galleys) as were N80-N83. I've always wondered why either A. Pan Am chose to retain one DC-10, or B. AA chose not to take N84NA. Given how eager AA was to standardize on the -10, and how aggressively they were sourcing aircraft from other carriers, my guess is that Pan Am CHOSE not to include N84NA in the deal.
Until not that long ago, and long after Viasa's bankruptcy, one could see YV-135C @ EZE. It was written off during a landing accident in Nov. 1993. It sat at EZE's corrosion corner for at least 15 years until it was finally sold for scrap.