lysflyer
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Swiss LYS-ZRH-FCO Business

Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:19 pm

Good morning everyone!

Welcome to my new trip report that covers a trip made 1 year and a half ago. Sorry for the delay, I was kept busy until this day.

BACKGROUND :
For my summer vacations, I decided to indulge a week-long trip to Rome and then to Palermo. Rome is definitely a city I like a lot because all of the historical background that sits on the city. The Palermo part of my vacations will be covered in another trip report.

I decided to fly Swiss because time was convenient and, you know, I try to be a loyal customer for the Star Alliance and LH Group especially.

Booking was done on the misterfly.com website which is very user-friendly. Soon, I received an email with all my booking details and was able to manage it directly on Swiss website where I could select my seats in advance and book for airport transferts through Swiss partner Viator.

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Courtesy of the Great Circle Mapper

I was dropped-off in LYS by my parents and headed directly to the very end of the terminal 2 where sits the check-in area for the flights operated by Lufthansa, Brussels Airlines, Swiss and Austrian. As I don't live in Lyon anymore, I don't use LYS often so I am not aware about the recent changes in that airport (if any).
All in all I find LYS very airy and easy to use.

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Lufthansa Group check-in area at the very end of the terminal.

Check-in was done quickly by using Business class lane and the agent gave me very clear explanations.

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Heading to the security screening.

Terminal 2 is mostly used by Air France and their partner as well as LH Group and Emirates. Due to the State of Emergency in France, border controls are done also for European flights so my flight departed from the tiny non-schenghen area of the Terminal 2. In that part of the terminal, the lounge is very well stocked with pretty good views over the apron.
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Well stocked and classy lounge
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I must say that the food was delicious. Different sandwiches were on offer as well as fresh pastries and a quite wide variety of drinks

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Bus boarding gate means ground floor waiting area with views over the Terminal and this VY A320 waiting to depart for FCO actually. These ground floor gates were used by AF for their hub ops in LYS in the early 2000s. It was before the construction of the Y-shaped regional hub wing built for the "Rendez-vous lyonnais" hub that AF used to operate at that time

08.08.2016
Flight # : LX531
Departure airport : Lyon St-Exupery (LYS/LFLL)
Arrival airport : Zurich-Kloten (ZRH/LSZH)
ETD : 1015
ATD : 1030
ETA : 1125
ATA : 1130
Scheduled flight time : 01:10
Actual flight time : 01:00
Aircraft type : Bombardier Dash8-Q400
Reg # : OE-LGN "Gmunden"
Seat : 02F



Soon boarding was called and there was a short bus ride toward our plane waiting on the apron. Since some time LX operates turboprops to LYS. These are operated by OS that are also operated on the VIE-LYS link.

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Am I flying OS or LX?
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Sistership getting prepared to VIE
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That's a huge fan
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02F is a bulkhead seat with good legroom despite being in a quite cramped Q400
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LYS hosts numerous Q400 with BE operating them to SOU. At the distance, you can spot the midfield LCC terminal that is linked by an underground walkway. You can also see a DHL B752 and a 5O B73x (don't remerber if it's a 733 or a 73G)
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Can be quite confusing for one-time travellers...the flight was quite full
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Predeparture drin...ehm...water once boarding completed. And reading material
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VY 320 to FCO taxiing and fellow sistership OS Q400
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Engine start
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Taxiing
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Down the runway without further waiting
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Airborne you know
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Looking over the plain between Lyon and the Alps
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Turning eastward thus offering nice views over LYS
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Nice looking AC B763 about to land after a rather long flight from YUL
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Nice view over Lyon at the distance and LYS in the foreground
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3 mountain range to be seen : On the left-hand foreground the Chartreuse, at the background Belledonne and at the very right-hand side the Vercors. In between, sits the city of Grenoble
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As the flight is quite short, service started right away with a simple yet perfectly acceptable (for the flight length) tray. The Grison meat sandwich was a bit salty but fine while the greenish sweet thing was...well...I don't know to be honest. And not that good...
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The Alps are so beautiful
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The River Rhone at the very beginning of the Lake Leman

After enjoying marvelous views over the Alps, it was time to level off in order to land at ZRH

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ZRH in sight!
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Beautiful approach over a hilly landscape
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Nice greenfield add for the famous Victorinox army knives
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Welcome to Switzerland while a QR B788 is about to depart
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LX intercontinental hub. Spot the intruders!
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Crossing the active runway
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A sight of the past, the famous Avro farm of ZRH
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A good looking AZ E175. I find this livery very smart
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Busses waiting for their passengers coming from LYS. Wait...what's that silver minibus?
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Yes! A dedicated transfert for C passengers...well, just for me alone...stylish...

I had some time before the flight to FCO so the only way was to go to the Swiss Lounge.

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Upstairs it is
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Views over the apron
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ZRH airside center main hall
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I was greeted by a nice lounge dragon and more stairs after, I found myself to main lobby of the lounge. It was busy but I still managed to find a suitable seat
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Comfortable seating
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Food options were limited but fine as I am fond of pastas!
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What cross do you prefer?
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Soon, it was time to head to the A Gate through narrow halls
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Downstairs this time meaning bus boarding
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Overview of the apron
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Good load factor for LX these days

After a lenghty ride aboard the bus, it was time to board one of the numerous A320 in service with LX. I assume the flight was pretty full in all classes.

08.08.2016
Flight # : LX1736
Departure airport : Zurich-Kloten (ZRH/LSZH)
Arrival airport : Rome Leonardo da Vinci (FCO/LIRF)
ETD : 1240
ATD : 1250
ETA : 1415
ATA : 1415
Scheduled flight time : 01:35
Actual flight time : 01:25
Aircraft type : Airbus A320-200
Reg # : HB-JLP "Allschwill"
Seat : 01A



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Boarding...I love that view
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Another sight of the past...Air Berlin is gone now
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Bulkhead row means great legroom
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Not so good views of the dropdown screens
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We'll soon depart I guess
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A pretty LX A333 gracefully climbing
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Taxiing toward the active runway
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Sharp looking sharkleted LX A321
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What's hidden behind this 2L E190...wow!
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Amazing to see a DC3/C47 in flesh! Especially with these nice D-day markings
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The CS1 is looking very good
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Airborne again
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Last view over ZRH
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Zürichsee I guess
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Greeny Alps
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Something to read?
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Service began and C passengers were offered a cold plate of slices of beef meat along with some pastas and olives. It was fine though.
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Everything tastes good with such a view over Lugano I guess
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Reaching northern Italy
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Milan Linate (LIN/LIML)
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The Po flatlands with the Alps at the very background
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Nice italian coast line
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Viterbo AB (LIRV)
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Lake of Bracciano looks so peaceful
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Yes it is!
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Seconds before landing
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Full brakes
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and vacating
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Taxiing
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Almost parked next to a portuguese friend
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Bye Allschwill
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Bland corridors in FCO
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FCO doesn't look very spacious
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Waiting a looong time for the luggage to be delivered on Nastro 9

As I prebooked a transfert to the hotel, I was quickly out of the airport and few minutes later I found myself downtown Rome checking in at the Mercure Roma Colosseo. I highly recommend this place as it is located very close to the Coliseum and right in front of a tram station.

Now, let's have a look on marvelously beautiful city of Rome!

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The view from the room
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At night
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The hotel comes with a small rooftop pool and bar (where the breakfast is also served). Quite enjoyable actually

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Basilica di San Giovanni in Laterano
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Porta Maggiore
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Basilica di Santa Croce in Gerusalemme
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Such a beautiful sight
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Scalinata di Trinita dei Monti
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Fontana di Trevi
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Vittoriano at night, it's an impressive monument I may say
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Colonna Traiana
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The mighty Colosseo
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Nice historical remains in the Foro Romano
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Cute little providing some shadow. What a relief from the hot italian sun
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The impressive Pantheon
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The Sant'Agnese in Agone taken from the famous Piazza Navona

During my time in Rome, I attended to the Papal Audience in the Vatican. It is something that must be seen even if you are not that religious. It's actually very interesting to watch joyful people coming from all over the world to attend this. It was funny to watch people behaving like they were in a popstar concert when Pope Francis arrived.
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Typical concrete architecture of the 70s
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Greeted like a rockstar :rotfl:
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Piazza San Pietro
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For a fee you can go to the top of the Basilica di San Pietro. It really worth it because you can have some awesome 360° views over Rome

After 2 days in Rome, it was time to head to Sicily but that will be reported in another TR...stay tuned. Now, I will describe the flight back to Lyon. After having flown from Palermo, I self-connecting myself to the outward LX flight to ZRH and then to LYS. Everything went quite smoothly despite being a bit worried about any delay as I was self-connecting. Anyway, flying C helps as you can skip the long Y check-in line as FCO tends to be quite crowded.

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Not so bright check-in counters.

I was greeted by a not so interested agent who still provided clear indication but did not more than what's required. I went through fast track security screening which was done very quickly.

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Shabby looking hallways
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FCO is not very easy to use
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More elevators towards the lounge
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Not so welcoming lounge. LX uses Alitalia lounge also used by their Skyteam and Etihad partners
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Lots of people, few seating available, poor food...that's not what I expected at the main base of Alitalia. Anyway, it was still better than nothing
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Boarding gate at the very end of the D gates.

Boarding was called in proper order despite the huge amount of passenger. Good job here.

14.08.2016
Flight # : LX1727
Departure airport : Rome Leonardo da Vinci (FCO/LIRF)
Arrival airport : Zurich-Kloten (ZRH/LSZH)
ETD : 0935
ATD : 0945
ETA : 1115
ATA : 1130
Scheduled flight time : 01:40
Actual flight time : 01:45
Aircraft type : Airbus A321-100
Reg # : HB-IOC "St Moritz"
Seat : 04F



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Rome the Swiss way
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Where does it lead to?
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To Imbarco I guess
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Closer to my chariot
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Clean view

Passengers were greeted by gentle FA and C cabin was quite full as well as the in Y. Cabin is typical Euro 3x3 configuration with free middle seat for C passengers.

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Cargo door open
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Good legroom
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LY sends their B772 to FCO
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SQ B772 and a QR B788 resting on the ramp
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Typical reading material
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It seems that Italy is famous among russian tourists. A rare (for me) U6 A320 arriving from somewhere in Russia
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Pushback
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DL B764
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Am I flying Swiss?
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FB E190 taxiing
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Fellow *A partners at their gates
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A3 was waiting for us to vacate the gate
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AB A320 taxiing. Sad to see them go
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DY B738 about to end its flight as it taxies toward the terminal
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CX B77W resting on a remote ramp before returning to HKG later that day
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FR ventures to "big" airports
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Cute AZ E175 waiting its turn to take-off...who will go first? Them or us?
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The answer was : them! A smart AA B772 took the place of the E175
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A greenish EI A321 has just landed after having flown from DUB
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And another (sharkleted this time) A321 belonging to AY completing a quite long flight from HEL
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Soon enough it was time to power down the runway
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Climbing over the shore
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I didn't realise FCO was so close to the sea
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The Apennines mountains on the background
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A beautiful warm summer day
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Going back over mainland Italy
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Being a morning-time flight, some sort of breakfast was served including some Swiss delicatessen, a croissant, muesli, cheese and a smoothie. Very tasty
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Italy is so narrow that you can even see the Adriatic sea and Venice
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Traffic inbound! A TK B738 crossing our path
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Back over the Alps
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Without explanation, we started to circle around ZRH. We even flew near Basel. Meanwhile, we crossed another fellow planes waiting their turn.
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The Euroairport...MLH or BSL or EAP...I don't know! LFSB anyway
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Overlooking northern Switzerland
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I think we were allowed to land
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Definitely about to land
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On the runway
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EY B77W docked at the E gates
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DL B76W nearby
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Too bad that this beautiful SQ A380 in special livery is hidden behind a tiny LX A343
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A big LX B77W
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Not any cloud in sight
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A rather desert apron
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Is there anybody out there?
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Oh right! Just behind us!
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Time to disembark via airbridge
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Passengers found themselves in a rather bland and deserted B Gates wing


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Airside center

It was time to go to Swiss business lounge. Nothing much to talk about though it is nicely furbished. Soon, it was time to head towards the most remote gates of ZRH

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Walking and further walking
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Boarding gate
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Bus ride

14.08.2016
Flight # : LX1727
Departure airport : Zurich-Kloten (ZRH/LSZH)
Arrival airport : Lyon St-Exupery (LYS/LFLL)
ETD : 1225
ATD : 1230
ETA : 1330
ATA : 1320
Scheduled flight time : 01:05
Actual flight time : 00:50
Aircraft type : Bombardier Dash8-Q400
Reg # : OE-LGP "Spirit of Alpbach'
Seat : 02A



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Enjoyable time on the apron waiting to board that Dash
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I love that view
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Complimentary legroom shot
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Reading material as usual
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Paperwork being done in the cockpit. Passengers were greeted by very nice FA
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Engine view
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Short taxi to the active
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That warbird again! This time with some lucky passengers waiting to board this Dakota
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Airborne
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Slow climbing over Switzerland
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The sun was blinding so I had to shut the window shades. Food was promptly served. This time a flavorful raspberry roll and a fruit salad. Very fresh! Perfect for a hot summer day. Note the full can of coke!
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Reaching Lake Leman
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GVA/LSGG
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Nearing LYS. Southbound approach means overflying the Plain of the Dombes, an area with plenty of ponds
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On final
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Seconds before touching down the runway
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Landed
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Vacating
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Passing by a bunch of parked LCCs (TO and PC B738 and a U2 A319)
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The new Terminal 1 Hall B under construction
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Like MRS, LYS had a huge algerian diaspora and as a consequence, plenty of flights to Algeria operated by AH along with ZI. Here, an AH B738.
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Wait?! A D7 A333 in LYS? Is this a new link to KUL? Of course not! During summer, AH usually charters some widebodies to answer the huge demand between the sides of the Mediterranean sea
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Another colorful Q400, operated by BE this time
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Links are strong between France and Canada. Here, a TS A33x waiting before operating towards YUL
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Fellow Skyteam partners...KL E190 bound to AMS and a nice SU A320 bound to SVO. Great to see some diversity in LYS
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Last view over my ride from ZRH with a dark looking A2 A320...I don't know where is it going
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Widebody action in LYS

Passport control took ages. LYS lacks PARAFE counters to ease the crossing of the border.

Anyway, bags were delivered after our arrival in the baggage claim area (why is it always so long in LYS?)

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Baggage claim area


I was picked up in the curbside minutes later and my vacations came to an end shortly afterwards...I have to work hard to afford such great vacations!


CONCLUSION
LYS : It's always pleasant to use this airport that is well organized except for the baggage delivery. Enforcing border control add some hassle when it comes to travel abroad and LYS definitely needs PARAFE.
ZRH : Efficient airport that is perfect for smooth transit.
FCO : Crowded and quite outdated. Yet, it is easy to use and the experience was not that bad actually.
LX : Swiss manage to provide a good experience to their customer. Hopefully they won't follow the LCC-like trend that hit air transport industry in Europe. I feel sad when I saw that LX won't serve LYS anymore. I really don't know why this link stopped just like that because give my experience flights seemed to be quite full each time I used LX. Moreover, LX provided very convenient connections that will no longer be possible. Anyway, as I am located closer to MRS now, I am still happy to see LX serving there even if it's only 4 times weekly. Please LX, more french connections!


Thank you for reading this trip report. I hope you've enjoyed it and I look forward for any comments and questions.

Very best regards


LYSflyer

Links to my previous TR :
Swiss Economy LYS-ZRH-EWR
Aegean Airlines A3633/A3632-LYS-ATH-LYS-Inaugural
Brussels Airlines SN3588 - LYS-BRU - Economy
Adria Airways JP395 - BRU-LJU - Economy
Adria Airways JP376 - LJU-BRU - Economy
Brussels Airlines SN3591 - BRU-LYS - Economy
TAP By Portugalia Economy LYS-LIS
Air France Economy MRS-ORY
Turkish Airlines MRS-IST Economy
Ryanair MRS-TUF Low-cost
Ethiopian Airlines NIM-ADD-CDG Business
Eurowings MRS-DUS Low-cost
 
theobcman
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Re: Swiss LYS-ZRH-FCO Business

Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:40 pm

Excellent report ! A very nice read. Pictures of Rome also very good - it's on my list of weekend breaks to do !

I'm flying LX CS3 & CS1 this weekend - will be reporting - cheers.
 
lysflyer
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Re: Swiss LYS-ZRH-FCO Business

Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:41 pm

Thank you very much. I look forward to read your trip report.
Rome is definitely a city you must visit
 
utio2003
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Re: Swiss LYS-ZRH-FCO Business

Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:13 pm

Great report and nice pictures¡¡¡¡
 
lychemsa
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Re: Swiss LYS-ZRH-FCO Business

Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:17 pm

Rome in the summer can be unbearably hot. I did not enjoy it. So now I need to return in the spring or fall.
 
lysflyer
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Re: Swiss LYS-ZRH-FCO Business

Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:33 pm

Thank you utio2003

@lychemsa, I agree...it was so damn hot!
 
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LTU932
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Re: Swiss LYS-ZRH-FCO Business

Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:14 pm

I do have a question on passport control during Intraschengen flights departing/arriving in France: Did you have to clear passport control in ZRH as well? I mean, it seems what they do in LYS is only a documents check and not really what I'd consider full passport control, especially if you then used the Schengen gates in ZRH.
Sometimes the only thing more dangerous than a question is an answer. - Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 208
 
lysflyer
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Re: Swiss LYS-ZRH-FCO Business

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:07 am

LTU932, it's only a french decision to reactivate passport/ID control when leaving/entering the french territory. When departing or arriving in ZRH or elsewhere in Europe, you use the same Schenghen gates as before. Meaning no control on this side of the border.

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