aeromoe
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Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:07 pm

Hi A-netters. I've decided to upload another trip report, this time covering my 1985 rides in a classic airliner: the Vickers Viscount.

Rewind to early 1985. I'd just arrived in England for a two year tour. As a true American Avgeek I was determined to fly in a Viscount as soon as possible after my arrival. I sorted out a routing on British Midland allowing me to do a quick round trip from Heathrow to Teeside. Shortly after arriving England I ran across another of my American buddies at my job and I invited him along for the trip. He agreed to accompany me on the fun.

Getting to Heathrow in those days was fairly easy although a bit lengthy. Right outside RAF Alconbury was a local bus line that ran to Huntingdon just a few miles away. From the bus station it was a fairly short walk to the British Rail station which at the time was still serving diesel-powered trains...electrification was a work in progress. In the meantime Intercity 125 services to Kings Cross Station provided a speedy way to get to London. Once off the train, a walk to the Underground station and the Picadilly Line would provide transportation to Heathrow Central. So for about 6 Pounds Sterling I could get to Heathrow and back on any given day. British Rail offered the "Young Persons Railcard" that provided 50% off rail tickets. Huntingdon was just inside the northern limits and I took advantage of the discount on a regular basis.

At the time I owned only one SLR body...a Canon A-1 so I often alternated between Kodachrome K64 slide film and various Kodak print films. Therefore my photos show varying quality and the granier photos are usually scans of prints.

Trip #1: British Midland Airways -- 19 January 1985

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Ticket stock for today's flight
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Boarding passes:
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19 January 1985
British Midland Airways #346 / #345
London Heathrow (LHR) - Teeside (MME) - Heathrow (LHR)
Viscount 813 G-AZNA
Times: Dep: unknown (actual flight time 55 minutes each way)
Distance: 186 miles one-way
Seat: 3F / 16C
Cost: 60 pounds return

Heathrow-Teeside great-circle route:
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Maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper (http://www.gcmap.com) - copyright © Karl L. Swartz.

Typical IC125 trainset on the through tracks at Huntingdon. Northbound in this case:
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Kings Cross station. In this case departing:
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Acton Town Underground station on the Picadilly line:
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After making the multi-modal trip from Alconbury to Heathrow we went to Terminal 2 to check in for our flight.

G-AZNA at LHR prior to our boarding:
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Chris and Moe aboard G-AZNA:
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Enroute Heathrow-Teeside aboard G-AZNA:
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G-AZNA on the ramp at Teeside between our flights:
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On the return trip I was invited to the flight deck and remained there until we landed and parked on the stand. That was awesome!

I was able to take some photos during the final approach to LHR runway 28R:
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G-AZNA on the ramp at LHR after the flight from Teeside:
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After the rides, Chris and I probably just decided to head back to Alconbury since the amount of January daylight in England is pretty short. It was a great trip and the whine of the Rolls-Royce Darts was
unforgettable.


Trip #2: British Caledonian Commuter / British Caledonian -- 17 April 1985

Just about two months later I made plans to fly aboard the freshly-painted British Caledonian Commuter Viscount 806 G-AOYR owned and operated by British Air Ferries. I chose to fly to the island of Jersey for this trip.

Getting to Gatwick Airport from Alconbury was a little different than the trip to Heathrow. I still started off with a trip to Kings Cross but then I took the Victoria LIne to Victoria in order to catch the Gatwick Express train service to the airport. The Young-Persons Railcard discount was good for this journey too.

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British Rail ticket from Huntingdon to Kings Cross:
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British Rail ticket from Victoria to Gatwick:
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British Caledonian ticket stock for this trip:
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British Caledonian boarding pass for BR 022 JER-LGW:
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Ticket stub for viewing deck at Gatwick Airport:
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17 April 1985
British Caledonian Airways #013
London Gatwick (LGW) - Jersey (JER)
Viscount 806 G-AOYR
Times: Dep: 1330 (flight time: 41 minutes)
Distance: 161 miles
Seat: 1A
Cost: 98 pounds return

Gatwick-Jersey great circle route:
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Gatwick Express passing us heading up to Victoria:
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I was allowed to walk to the sunny side of the plane to take some ramp photos. One was made into a postcard by Aviation Data Centre:
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View north from aboard G-AOYR at Gatwick before departure:
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Terrible interior photo of G-AOYR but it illustrates club seating and those HUGE Viscount windows:
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Flying over Brittany, France:
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After passing Brittany, France:
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G-AOYR interior before deplaning at Jersey:
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Jersey Airport:
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Jersey Airport Terminal:
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Jersey Airport Terminal:
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I had a nice couple of hours on the viewing terrace to photogaph the activity of this relatively busy little island airport:


British Midland Viscount G-AZNA:
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G-AOYR departing for next flight following my flight from Gatwick
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Aurigny Trislander G-BEVT:
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Aurigny Trislander G-BDTO:
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NLM City Hopper F-28 PH-CHD:
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Sabena Xingu OO-SXC
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Aurigny Islander G-AXWR:
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RAF Hercules C.3 XV202:
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Guernsey Viscount G-AOYG:
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Channel Express Herald G-ADTS:
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Dan-Air BAe146 G-BKMN:
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Air UK Herald G-BEYK:
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Four-engined classics:
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17 April 1985
British Caledonian Airways #022
Jersey (JER) - London Gatwick (LGW)
BAC 1-11 500 G-AWYU
Times: Dep: 1745 (flight time: 38 minutes)
Distance: 161 miles
Seat: 1B
Cost: 98 pounds return

Jersey prior to boarding BCal 1-11 to Gatwick:
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British Caledonian BAC 1-11 G-AWYU:
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B Cal BAC 1-11 G-AWYU Isle of Colonsay:
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British Caledonian BAC 1-11 interior at Gatwick:
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British Caledonian BAC 1-11 flight deck at Gatwick:
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British Caledonian BAC 1-11 G-AWYU at Gatwick after arrival:
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Trip #3: Virgin Atlantic Airways -- 25 April 1985

First time I saw the beautifully-painted Virgin Viscount G-AOHT I knew I wanted to fly in it. Virgin inaugurated service to Maastricht, Netherlands and I booked a day return trip so I could fly on this beauty twice.

I made the trip to Gatwick as I'd done the week before bit the weather was quite bleak compared to a week ago.

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Virgin Atlantic ticket for today's flights:
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Virgin Atlantic boarding pass:
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Virgin Atlantic bag tag:
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25 April 1985
Virgin Atlantic #202 / #201
London Gatwick (LGW) - Maastricht (MST) - London Gatwick (LGW)
Viscount 806 G-AOHT
Times: Dep: 1200 (actual flight time 1:12)
Times: Dep: 1445 (actual flight time 1:25)
Distance: 261 miles
Seat: 1A
Cost: 98 pounds return

Gatwick-Maastricht great circle route:
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View of Gatwick Ramp before departure for Maastricht:
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G-AOHT on the ramp at MST following my flight from Gatwick:
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Two more Rolls-Royce Dart powered planes at MST during my short visit:
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View while enroute MST-LGW:
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Some time later Virgin replaced G-AOHT with G-AOYP "Maastricht Maiden". I photographed her on the ramp at LGW in 1986 as seen below:
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Thanks for stopping by...I hope you have enjoyed viewing these trip reports and photos.

Moe
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Re: Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:39 am

Great series of reports, love the old british rail shots too
The 1-11 has such graceful lines
 
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Re: Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:29 pm

Amazing trip reports - thank you so much for taking the time to post this. This was my plane spotting era and fantastic to see some memories from the past. I used to fly quite a lot on the British Caledonian Bac111s - nearly always on G-AWYR somehow but I seem to remember it had blue seats - could be wrong. Thanks again - made my day to see this and revisit my younger days!
 
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Re: Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:35 pm

jrfspa320 wrote:
Great series of reports, love the old british rail shots too
The 1-11 has such graceful lines
Thanks - it was a great time to be in the UK for me. Moe
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Re: Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:37 am

Many thanks for the memories! Great to see those scenes from days gone by. Today's ramps are far less varied, comprising, mainly, of twins both narrow bodied and wide bodied!
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Re: Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:10 am

Great to see some of those older aircraft when they were still in use.
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Re: Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:44 am

Thanks for these great reports! Oldies but goldies!
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Re: Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:36 pm

Excellent report and great pics. Wish I had flown on those aircraft!
I do enjoy a spot of flying, especially when it's not in economy!
 
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Re: Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:21 pm

I remember flying from Luton to Almeria on Dan Air back in 1988, outbound was on BAC 1-11 500 G-BDAS and coming back was on BAC 1-11-500 G-BEKA, both times I was sat right at the back by the engines and I still remember boarding the 1-11 from the backstairs and the drone from the APU!!.

Does anybody on the forum know if there are any BAC 1-11's still active or are they all gone now?.
 
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Re: Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:15 pm

Thanks fellas for the nice remarks.
Moe
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Re: Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:41 am

Absolutely outstanding trip report! One of the most enjoyable I've read in a long time. Brought back many memories of growing up in the UK in the 1980s.
 
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Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:34 pm

Thank you so much for sharing your Viscount experiences and activating some of my own memories flying the Viscount in the 60s and 70s, mostly on Arkia Israel Domestic Airlines, Austrian Airlines, BEA and later also British Airways. It was one of my favorite planes as a kid, the windows being bigger than I was in my early years!

The departing Channel Express Handley Page Dart Herald is in basic Arkia colors, a plane that I also flew a few times in Israel. Good to see it again.

In trip nbr 1 you mention that you've checked-in for your BMA domestic flight in Terminal 2. In my memory, all UK domestic flights were in Terminal 1 on the left side entering the building. Also your final picture of the BMA Viscount in trip nbr 1 clearly is taken at Terminal 1.
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Re: Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:22 pm

Thank you for posting these trip reports. They were fantastic to read, and your photographs were great!
 
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Re: Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:01 pm

I loved the Vickers Viscount with the large windows. I took my first Vickers Viscount flight in 1958 on BEA from Vienna to London. I took many on Alitalia from London to Milan and on KLM from London to Amsterdam. Also the Vickers Vanguard. I also liked British Caledonian. They had good service. Flew with them on an empty 707 from New York to London and the BAC 111 to Amsterdam from London.

Notice that most of these airlines you took pictures of no longer exist. Your fare of 95 pounds in 1985 was pretty steep. Thanks for the memories.
 
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Re: Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:02 pm

Markie73 wrote:
Does anybody on the forum know if there are any BAC 1-11's still active or are they all gone now?.


Long gone now, sadly...
None shall pass!!!!
 
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Re: Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:26 pm

They had great Windows for an early age flyer, they used them on the SYD/MEL run regularly, noisy but great looking.

Thanks for a great trip.
 
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Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:43 am

This has to be one of the best trip reports in a while - full of aircraft and images from my childhood! My parent's home is under the flight path inbound to Aberdeen (ABZ) and a standard sound of home was for many years the drone of the Viscount, normally Britsh Air Ferries doing the Shetland oil runs. I never got to fly one, sadly. And my last 1-11 flight was in 98, a British World (renamed British Air Ferries) on FRA > STN, subbed for a KLMuk F100 that had gone tech. It was like stepping back in time, complete with rear-facing seats. And lots of noise.

Great stuff, many thanks, Moe!
 
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Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:55 am

Thanks folks for viewing my reports...I'm glad they bring back some memories for everybody. Moe
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Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:16 pm

Wow, visiting Jersey at about the mid-point of the "Bergerac" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081831/?ref_=nv_sr_1) police detective drama that was filmed on the island. Some of these same aircraft appeared in scenes filmed at the airport, although the program featured the BA 1-11s over B-Cal's.
 
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Re: Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985

Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:57 pm

Excellent trip report bringing back so many memories. My first flight as a 1 year old was on a Channel viscount from Southend to Guernsey (although I have no memory of that!!!!!!). Many 1-11 flights followed , usually dan air with a few BCAL and even Ryanair thrown in. Loved the 1-11, noisy both inside and out!!!

Hope to see more 80's trip reports

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