Pre-Screen

Wordpress · Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:09 pm

Hello!

I wanted to just get some feedback before enlisting into the queue.

I have a better picture of the Caravan, but there's a taxi sign behind it. I also have a lot of nice back lit photos. :lol:

Thanks for stopping by!

Wordpress · Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:37 pm

Also, if you don't mindd, how does this look?

Wordpress · Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:48 am

I'm sorry, it doesn't seem like I can edit posts.

I made some changes to the photos so I decided to post them here.
https://ibb.co/gvAQ3e (Less Exaggerated Fixes)
https://ibb.co/ccTOpK (More Exaggerated Fixes)
https://ibb.co/hVgq3e

Runway28L · Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:51 am

All three look blurry and hazed to me, especially the 208.

Wordpress · Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:54 am

Runway28L wrote:
All three look blurry and hazed to me, especially the 208.

Do you think this is caused by shutter speed, post, or just the weather conditions?

Runway28L · Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:58 am

Wordpress wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
All three look blurry and hazed to me, especially the 208.

Do you think this is caused by shutter speed, post, or just the weather conditions?

Weather conditions and time of day. Seems like both were taken right in the middle of the day, where heat haze is most problematic. Early morning and late afternoon are usually the best times to shoot and not have it be an issue.

Wordpress · Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:02 am

Runway28L wrote:
Wordpress wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
All three look blurry and hazed to me, especially the 208.

Do you think this is caused by shutter speed, post, or just the weather conditions?

Weather conditions and time of day. Seems like both were taken right in the middle of the day, where heat haze is most problematic. Early morning and late afternoon are usually the best times to shoot and not have it be an issue.

Okay, so do you think my shutter speed and technique were okay? It's hard for me to tell, this is like my 5th time spotting and at a camera.

We have some pretty cool arrivals and departures at 7:00-8:00, so maybe I'll shoot around then. Do you think my shots will improve? I'm unsure with myself so I'm sorry if I need that confirmation.

Runway28L · Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:16 am

Wordpress wrote:
Okay, so do you think my shutter speed and technique were okay? It's hard for me to tell, this is like my 5th time spotting and at a camera.
We have some pretty cool arrivals and departures at 7:00-8:00, so maybe I'll shoot around then. Do you think my shots will improve? I'm unsure with myself so I'm sorry if I need that confirmation.

That time frame should be fine. Lighting should be good enough but not too harsh. As far as overall technique, I would simply suggest:
1. Make sure you are well within range of your lens (the greater the zoom, the more quality you will lose)
2. Shutter speed between 1/800 and 1/1000
3. ISO between 100 and 200
4. If you are using autofocus, keep the camera as still as possible to avoid blur. If you are using manual (like I do), give yourself enough time to adjust to the sharpest setting

Finally, since you are relatively new, try to take as many images of aircraft as you possibly can. The more images you take, the more your technique will improve.

Wordpress · Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:28 am

Runway28L wrote:
Wordpress wrote:
Okay, so do you think my shutter speed and technique were okay? It's hard for me to tell, this is like my 5th time spotting and at a camera.
We have some pretty cool arrivals and departures at 7:00-8:00, so maybe I'll shoot around then. Do you think my shots will improve? I'm unsure with myself so I'm sorry if I need that confirmation.

That time frame should be fine. Lighting should be good enough but not too harsh. As far as overall technique, I would simply suggest:
1. Make sure you are well within range of your lens (the greater the zoom, the more quality you will lose)
2. Shutter speed between 1/800 and 1/1000
3. ISO between 100 and 200
4. If you are using autofocus, keep the camera as still as possible to avoid blur. If you are using manual (like I do), give yourself enough time to adjust to the sharpest setting

Finally, since you are relatively new, try to take as many images of aircraft as you possibly can. The more images you take, the more your technique will improve.

Thank you so much! I'll try all of this next time I go. One more thing, when I use ISO 100-200, I cannot achieve a high shutter speed.

Kaphias · Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:36 am

Wordpress wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
Wordpress wrote:
Okay, so do you think my shutter speed and technique were okay? It's hard for me to tell, this is like my 5th time spotting and at a camera.
We have some pretty cool arrivals and departures at 7:00-8:00, so maybe I'll shoot around then. Do you think my shots will improve? I'm unsure with myself so I'm sorry if I need that confirmation.

That time frame should be fine. Lighting should be good enough but not too harsh. As far as overall technique, I would simply suggest:
1. Make sure you are well within range of your lens (the greater the zoom, the more quality you will lose)
2. Shutter speed between 1/800 and 1/1000
3. ISO between 100 and 200
4. If you are using autofocus, keep the camera as still as possible to avoid blur. If you are using manual (like I do), give yourself enough time to adjust to the sharpest setting

Finally, since you are relatively new, try to take as many images of aircraft as you possibly can. The more images you take, the more your technique will improve.

Thank you so much! I'll try all of this next time I go. One more thing, when I use ISO 100-200, I cannot achieve a high shutter speed.

On a sunny day you should be able to use ISO 100, f/8, and get a 1/400 shutter or faster.

Wordpress · Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:15 pm

Kaphias wrote:
Wordpress wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
That time frame should be fine. Lighting should be good enough but not too harsh. As far as overall technique, I would simply suggest:
1. Make sure you are well within range of your lens (the greater the zoom, the more quality you will lose)
2. Shutter speed between 1/800 and 1/1000
3. ISO between 100 and 200
4. If you are using autofocus, keep the camera as still as possible to avoid blur. If you are using manual (like I do), give yourself enough time to adjust to the sharpest setting

Finally, since you are relatively new, try to take as many images of aircraft as you possibly can. The more images you take, the more your technique will improve.

Thank you so much! I'll try all of this next time I go. One more thing, when I use ISO 100-200, I cannot achieve a high shutter speed.

On a sunny day you should be able to use ISO 100, f/8, and get a 1/400 shutter or faster.

Yeah, I got these shots at 1/300-1/500 using aperture priority and an ISO of 200. Although Runway28L did suggest a higher shutter speed. I don't think the softness is coming from me though, I'm pretty sure it's coming from heat haze, so I'll try again early in the morning. Thanks everyone!

Wordpress · Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:37 am

Hi, I understand that these shots weren't the best, and I'll make my next run when it isn't 90 degrees outside. But I did a pre-screen on Jetphotos and the folks there said that this one is passable.
https://ibb.co/f5hopK
Do you agree or disagree? I'd like to hear some opinions before uploading. It's just more sharpened then the previous uploaded here.

Runway28L · Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:35 am

I still think you would get hit with a rejection here for that image being hazed. Frankly, I'm very surprised someone there said it was passable, there are wavy lines along the edges of the wing plus the nose seems blurry.

It's worth noting that different sites have different standards, based off of personal experience (I've had images passed on A.net and rejected on JP at the same time and vise-versa).

Wordpress · Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:21 pm

Runway28L wrote:
I still think you would get hit with a rejection here for that image being hazed. Frankly, I'm very surprised someone there said it was passable, there are wavy lines along the edges of the wing plus the nose seems blurry.

It's worth noting that different sites have different standards, based off of personal experience (I've had images passed on A.net and rejected on JP at the same time and vise-versa).

Ok, thanks for your input. I'm setting my alarm early on Sunday

Hopefully won't be baked by the sun.

P.S. The heat haze you may be seeing is the exhaust shooting upwards but I'm not sure if that's what you're talking about.

Wordpress · Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:32 pm

Any thoughts on this photo? I ran out in the rain and didn't expect good shots, but I thought these ones came out okay.

fsx98 · Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:24 am

Top photo looks blurry, especially in the nose area; also looks underexposed;
Bottom photo is soft, especially in the upper part of the fuselage; borderline underexposed.

I'm not that good at screening, but these are my opinions that I have with these photos. I would give other screeners some input of these photos.

DL747 · Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:04 am

Unfortunately, both are pretty blurry and non-starters I'm afraid.

Wordpress · Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:50 pm

Ok, I kind of thought so. It was my first time in the rain with expensive equipment and I didn't focus on my shutter speed (which was like 1/50) so yeah. Kind of expected it, but thanks anyway!

airkas1 · Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:16 pm

The Shorts is super blurry and a 200% no-go.
The Saab is much better, although still a bit marginal.

Wordpress · Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:20 pm

airkas1 wrote:
The Shorts is super blurry and a 200% no-go.
The Saab is much better, although still a bit marginal.

Do you think I can salvage it or is it not worth?

DL747 · Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:27 pm

Saab is 50/50, could be salvagable, but I'd try to get images of static aircraft in good light until you have some experience. Those tend to be easier to shoot and get accepted.

airkas1 · Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:48 pm

Wordpress wrote:
Do you think I can salvage it or is it not worth?

Honestly I wouldn't bother. Also upon looking at the photo again, the aft section looks a little blurry.

Wordpress · Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:41 pm

https://ibb.co/g4MaVf
So I never got my wrench to take off my polarizing filter, so I decide to take some shots on the ramp. Would this pass? Also let me know if I can edit out mistakes or if it's unfixable.

Wordpress · Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:41 pm

So I never got my wrench to take off my polarizing filter, so I decide to take some shots on the ramp. Would this pass? Also let me know if I can edit out mistakes or if it's unfixable.

Wordpress · Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:15 pm

Sorry for the double post but here's another version.
https://ibb.co/cS2xvf

Wordpress · Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:02 pm

Can't seem to edit my posts after a while but here's the gulfstream edited.
https://ibb.co/ioGw5f

Runway28L · Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:12 am

N991DB: Poor quality, blurry, overexposed sky, needs a tighter crop
N472MM: Poor quality, grainy, oversharpened, overexposed sky, needs a tighter crop

Seems like the not-so-great weather is causing a lot of issues in both images.

airkas1 · Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:33 am

I agree with Evan

Wordpress · Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:55 pm

Yeah, tried shooting through the fence, the planes were quite far and it was a bad day for lighting. I finally got my polarizing filter off so I'll try again.

Wordpress · Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:23 am

Any thoughts?

fsx98 · Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:58 am

Looks underexposed and a bit noisy; also a bit soft.

Kaphias · Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:56 am

Also low in frame. But most importantly, it looks like you caught the fence you were shooting through on the left side of the frame, which unfortunately makes this one a non-starter.

airkas1 · Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:43 am

Vertical framing is fine, horizontally it would need a tighter crop. Otherwise underexposed and softish, marginal quality. However as Kaphias pointed out, part of the fence is visibile, which makes this a motive thing.

Wordpress · Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:33 pm

airkas1 wrote:
Vertical framing is fine, horizontally it would need a tighter crop. Otherwise underexposed and softish, marginal quality. However as Kaphias pointed out, part of the fence is visibile, which makes this a motive thing.

Thanks, I'm not going to save it, I just wanted to see the results if I tried to remove the fence in post.

Wordpress · Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:29 pm

Hi, so I got these pictures. Would any of them be considered motive shots?

Kaphias · Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:14 pm

They would all be rejected for motive, I presume. Good eye though, I especially like the third, even more so if the focus point was obvious and purposeful. The first frankly isn't that interesting. The second may have been acceptable if it was portrait format to include the nose gear and not backlit.

fsx98 · Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:16 pm

The nose close-up shot (2nd one) would most likely be the best one for motive, IMO; the first and third photos show only parts of the cockpit and I would highly doubt that either two of the three would work for motive.

airkas1 · Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:34 pm

All 3 would be rejected for at least motive.

Wordpress · Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:00 pm

Took off the polarizer, but not the best light. What do you think?

Wordpress · Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:13 pm

One more for good measure. I'm pretty sure that the overcast will cause a contrast problem, but I'd like to hear some opinions!

Runway28L · Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:48 am

The first two I doubt would make it due to motive.

N145HM: Overexposed, flat, soft, needs CW
N14704: Flat, borderline oversharpened in some spots
N690DL: Oversharpened, needs slight CW

Wordpress · Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:00 am

Runway28L wrote:
The first two I doubt would make it due to motive.

N145HM: Overexposed, flat, soft, needs CW
N14704: Flat, borderline oversharpened in some spots
N690DL: Oversharpened, needs slight CW

What does flat mean? Also I'll get back to you with the edited versions of the photos.

Runway28L · Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:16 am

Wordpress wrote:
What does flat mean? Also I'll get back to you with the edited versions of the photos.

Flat is just another term for low contrast.

Edit: For the helicopter and the UA B73G, I mean to type CCW rather than CW, so my mistake. Need some sleep. :oops:

Wordpress · Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:57 am

Runway28L wrote:
Wordpress wrote:
What does flat mean? Also I'll get back to you with the edited versions of the photos.

Flat is just another term for low contrast.

Edit: For the helicopter and the UA B73G, I mean to type CCW rather than CW, so my mistake. Need some sleep.

Same here, I'll edit them tomorrow. I'll try and save the delta and united from OS, and I'll try to correct the rotation. Do you think these are salvageable?

Wordpress · Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:46 pm

Here's it with less (actually no) sharpening and slight CW rotation.

And here's the helicopter with CW roation, sharpening, less exposure and more contrast.

Wordpress · Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:03 pm

Sorry I meant CCW rotation on the helicopter, my bad. Edited these at like 12:00 AM. :bouncy:

Wordpress · Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:58 pm

Hi guys! I just went up and flew the Piper Aztec today. I took a snap with my iPhone 6. Not expecting it to be .net quality but have a look, maybe it is. Also get back to me on the 2 edited photos when you can. Thanks a ton guys!

airkas1 · Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:43 pm

B757 looks passable.
EC45 looks blurry
PA23 looks flat and not great (although pretty decent for a phone photo).

Wordpress · Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:50 pm

airkas1 wrote:
B757 looks passable.
EC45 looks blurry
PA23 looks flat and not great (although pretty decent for a phone photo).

tysm for the feedback. I'm going to put the 757 in the queue. I'm not going to save the helicopter photo as I've lost it in my ocean of files. Not even going to try with the PA23 but it was a heck of a nice flight today!

Wordpress · Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:09 pm

any thoughts?

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