Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

airkas1 · Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:40 pm

Definitely a double. In general: same day, same side, same photographer = double.

jelpee · Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:13 pm

In addition to being a double, it would likely have drawn a motive rejection as well on account of the clipped main landing gear.

Jehan

ajaaron · Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:46 pm

Happy holidays to everyone...

Can I check out this pic of the inside of the terminal at LLBG. Thanks as always.

[url][url=https://flic.kr/p/Q3XFbr]

[/url]IMG_3759 by Arnold Aaron, on Flickr[/url]

ajaaron · Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:29 am

Good morning all, can I get an opinion on these photos please...Happy New year to all...

This 777 below is a re-submission - I was asked to give it a tighter crop, and give it a CW rotation - hopefully all ok now - please confirm.

This A350 was rejected for being underexposed. I've added some brightness, please confirm now acceptable.

This A320 was rejected for low contrast, and having a bit of cyan colour in the photo. (Interestingly I ran it past this forum here first (see above) and got the thumbs up for it). Please advise if ok now. Thank you!

spompert · Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:15 pm

ajaaron wrote:
Happy holidays to everyone...

Can I check out this pic of the inside of the terminal at LLBG. Thanks as always.

[url][url=https://flic.kr/p/Q3XFbr][/url]IMG_3759 by Arnold Aaron, on Flickr[/url]

Hello Arnold,

This one looks blurry towards the end of the stairs. Also noisy.

spompert · Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:22 pm

Hello Arnold,

AC looks high in frame, oversharpened parts, Qantas oversharpened parts, BA is blurry (front), Malaysia noise on engine nr 2, EW also some noisy parts. Greets Stefan

ajaaron · Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:02 am

What are your thoughts on this? I hope all parameters are in check, and that Im one more step closer to being able to stand on me own two feet when it comes to editing!

HarryLi · Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:49 am

I can't load the image in your latest post.

ajaaron · Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:40 am

Image above should now show - the AA 777.

Also, have I got the centring correct on this one? -

spompert · Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:13 am

It looks slightly low in frame to me. But for this image a 3:2 ratio would work better balance-wise I guess

airkas1 · Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:35 am

Cut the distance between the tail and top of frame in half and centering should be spot on. Crop ratio works fine in 16:9 in my opinion, but that’s up to you.

ajaaron · Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:54 am

Ok - as regards the Blue Air, I've made a tweak, and hopefully the centering is now acceptable....

Also, the AA 777 should be visible now below....is the cropping ok, and the photo acceptable? Many thanks...slowly but surely

airkas1 · Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:34 pm

Not seeing the tweak on the Blue Air. Still low in frame for me. Unable to see the AA photo.

jelpee · Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:50 pm

The Blue air also looks blurry towards the nose.

Jehan

ajaaron · Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:16 pm

Here is the blue air again hopefully with centering now correct. As for any blurryness on the nose, do you suggest further sharpening?

jelpee · Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:43 pm

Blurriness unfortunately can rarely be fixed by additional sharpening. You might try editing it at a smaller size (1.e. 1024 pixels wide). Larger sized pictures tend to magnify flaws which can not be seen so well in smaller sized images.

Jehan

ajaaron · Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:54 pm

Hi everyone...

Can I just run this one past you before submitting.... Hope I've got the color and contrast right....and that its not overexposed...

Thank you.

airkas1 · Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:01 pm

The image does not show for me.

ajaaron · Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:50 pm

Here it is...

IMG_5732-2 by Arnold Aaron, on Flickr

spompert · Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:24 pm

Hello Arnold, to me there is some noise in the dark areas, especially engine and fuselage. The "United" sign looks a bit oversharpened to me (especially the "e" where there are some jaggies). The last windows might need some more sharpening, as well the cockpit windows and nose. Not sure about contrast, I think it`s okay. Not overexposed if you ask me.

ajaaron · Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:21 pm

Thank you Stefan.

Moving on to another one...I've had this BA A380 rejected before, and now that I have a little more experience, I have now re-edited it. I understand that the crop isn't ideal, but that notwithstanding, is it otherwise acceptable?

There should be no halos now, and the contrast & sharpening I hope, is about right...

[url][url=https://flic.kr/p/2enqYJk]

[/url]IMG_9056-2 by Arnold Aaron, on Flickr[/url]

ajaaron · Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:03 am

Please now disregard the A380 above which is in 16:9 - it looks much better in 3:2 which Ive done below

IMG_9056-4 by Arnold Aaron, on Flickr

airkas1 · Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:41 am

The photo will likely get done for motive unless you can include the full hor.stab. and wing.The crop on the nose is a bit tight as well. Unable to comment on the quality (yet) as I'm not n my screening PC.

Psych · Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:55 am

Hello Arnold.

I agree with Kas that the crop is unlikely to make it here because of the fact that the horizontal stabiliser is cropped - it does look awkward. I know how frustrating this is, when you cannot salvage the photo because the original is like this. But definitely something to bear in mind when you are taking photos such as these. Better to be slightly 'wide' and crop in a little than crop off bits of the plane at the point of pressing the shutter for these motives.

Also, I find my eyes drawn to the reg at the back of the aircdraft, which is definitely slightly blurred. So, for me, the screeners might also give it a 'blurry' rejection. I find taking a look at lettering on the aircraft (such as the reg) when zoomed in a little is a helpful strategy to judge whether or not you have a little blur in the image.

Good to see you striving for full independence with your editing. You can drop me another line if you think there is any further help I can offer - such as taking you through each of the steps I take in a particular edit.

All the best.

Paul

ajaaron · Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:13 am

Thanks Paul! Managed to get a few more photos accepted - slowly but surely. Shame about the BA A380 I was actually leaving to go home, and suddenly saw this thing blast off, so whipped out my camera in a frenzy and only managed to get this one single shot of it.Oh well on to the next one.

Cheers,
Arnold.

ajaaron · Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:28 pm

Ok - wow-weee.. Im up to 16 photos in the database...slowly but surely...

Can I ask your opinions on the crop of this A330 - this is the best fit I can get. - thanks.

[url][url=https://flic.kr/p/2eu4mUp]

[/url]IMG_5756-2 by Arnold Aaron, on Flickr[/url]

airkas1 · Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:31 pm

A little overxposed, but mainly way too green/yellow.

ajaaron · Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:51 pm

Ok, gotcha. Is the crop acceptable?

airkas1 · Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:10 pm

Yeah, the crop should be alright.

ajaaron · Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:58 am

Can I check the colours and crop are ok on this wizz A320...

[url][url=https://flic.kr/p/2ewf7TK]

[/url]IMG_6626-3 by Arnold Aaron, on Flickr[/url]

JakTrax · Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:15 pm

Looks good to me, although I personally think the contrast is a little weak.

Karl

airkas1 · Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:33 pm

I would place the aircraft a bit higher in frame, cropping out more of the tail.

ajaaron · Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:57 am

Can I check the contrast on this A320... I have 2 large peaks on the histogram but not sure if visually I've got it right.

Any other observations? - Many thanks...and now up to 21 in the database so thank you to everyone for their help..

[url][url=https://flic.kr/p/2ddx2aX]

[/url]IMG_6289-3 by Arnold Aaron, on Flickr[/url]

Runway28L · Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:03 am

Looks low in contrast for me. Image is also blurry, overexposed, needs a better crop on the left side, and needs CW rotation.

airkas1 · Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:21 am

Crop looks alright, I would reduce the highlights by -20 (with maybe +10 whites) and give it an extra pass of sharpening.

Psych · Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:16 am

Hello Arnold.

I definitely don't agree with Runway23L about the crop - to me that looks good as it is. Any further cropping to the left will cut into the wing flap and also the airline lettering. Looks level to me too. But I do agree with Kas that it doesn't look sharp as it currently is. I think you would need to see how it looks with some further sharpening.

I hope all is well and you are enjoying discovering Photoshop.

Cheers.

Paul

Runway28L · Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:08 am

Sorry Paul, that was terrible judgment on my part regarding the leveling and crop. I just thought that it didn't look right. I probably would've expanded the crop to include the rest of that window, but I see what you are saying about the lettering and windows.

ajaaron · Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:05 pm

Is this crop aceptable? Many thanks.

[url][url=https://flic.kr/p/QWheWe]

[/url]IMG_0938-2 by Arnold Aaron, on Flickr[/url]

jelpee · Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:35 pm

The aircraft crop is acceptable. However, it looks High in Frame. The aircraft is also visibly blurry (nose). I am not on my screening monitor to say for sure, but it appears to have a yellow-green color cast.

Jehan

airkas1 · Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:42 pm

I agree with Jehan, although the centering is passable for me.

ajaaron · Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:29 pm

hi guys... Would this crop be acceptable? Many thanks, Arnold.

[url][url=https://flic.kr/p/249NTAa]

[/url]IMG_7186 by Arnold Aaron, on Flickr[/url]

jelpee · Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:08 pm

I would crop on the right side to avoid cutting off the window on the upper deck., or else you'd draw a rejection for "Motive". Looks blurry to me at this size. Might be better at 1200 pixels.

Jehan

spompert · Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:55 pm

If I were you I would also remove noise from the air and tried to sharpen some lines less than you have done now (see some jaggies on cheatlines, etc)

ajaaron · Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:01 pm

Evening all...

Just had this Swiss Airlines rejected for 'Colour' with a personal message that it's too yellow.... I can't see the yellow, and in Lightroom, I've just checked, and the yellow was turned down significantly. I've also had the VS A330 below rejected twice for being too yellow, which I also can't see. Any pointers?

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JakTrax · Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:18 pm

The sky in the two above looks too cyan, which typically results in whites looking too yellow/green. It's not always straight-forward but reducing the amount of green should put you in the right direction.

Karl

airkas1 · Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:28 pm

Hi Arnold,

The Swiss is certainly not yellow for me, just a bit overexposed/bright.
Send me the RAW file of the Virgin and I will fix the color for you. airkas1[at]airliners.net.

jelpee · Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:42 pm

In addition to the color cast on the Virgin A330, the nose looks quite blurry to me and I see Chromatic Aberration around the cockpit windows.

Jehan

ajaaron · Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:43 pm

Can I check I have the saturation and contrast right on this United 777... Previously this was rejected for too much saturation.

Many thanks, Arnold.

jelpee · Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:19 am

Looks over-saturated to me. Noticeable on the blue tail and title.

Jehan

ajaaron · Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:19 am

ok - trying something new - my first time playing around with sunrise shots....would this shot be workable?

[url][url=https://flic.kr/p/STcY2Q]

[/url]IMG_8022 by Arnold Aaron, on Flickr[/url]

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