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Tonymancs
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Pre-screening

Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:25 am

Hello everybody! Learning from the last time, I would be glad for every feedback to help me fix any problems regarding photos before uploading (B737+An-12). Thank you for helping a newbie again :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/62439242@ ... ed-public/
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jelpee
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Re: Pre-screening

Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:02 pm

My thoughts:
1. Transavia B737: Aircraft is high in the frame. With the B737 family, and especially from this angle, the tail plays a larger part in the composition.Otherwise it is acceptable.
2. AN 128: Acceptable for me.

Happy to help out!

Jehan
 
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Re: Pre-screening

Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:02 pm

Both are high in frame for me, but otherwise seem alright.
 
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Re: Pre-screening

Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:59 pm

So I should center it with the tail as the highest point and the lower line of the fuselage as the lowest point? Again thanks for feedback.
 
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Re: Pre-screening

Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:56 pm

Tonymancs wrote:
So I should center it with the tail as the highest point and the lower line of the fuselage as the lowest point? Again thanks for feedback.

There's really no easy rule to use for vertical centering. The best way I can describe my process is that I want to find the visual center line as if your image was weighted and you were trying to balance the top against the bottom. The fuselage holds a lot of "weight" because of it's area and width, but the tail offsets this somewhat because of it's height. However, because the tail doesn't take up as much area as the fuselage, it doesn't completely offset the "weight" of the fuselage. So in the case of your 737 photo, I wouldn't center between the top of the tail and the bottom of the fuselage... I'd think about halfway up the tail, perhaps. I also take into account the colors (light vs. dark), textures, and importance/prominence of various things in the entirety of my photo... but it's an intuitive process for me. You'll develop your own system and an eye for what the screeners here are looking for over time.
 
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Re: Pre-screening

Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:26 am

Good explanation by Kaphias. Try to center based on visual "Center of Gravity". Even with that there's some individual perception as indicated by Kas' and my view on the the An. A lot also depends on the angle. If the tail dominates the image, then it plays a larger role. In the B737, there seems to a lot of blank/empty space below the aircraft which makes is HIF.

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Re: Pre-screening

Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:35 am

I'll try to study the subject more and play with cropping again. Thank you all for the help :)
 
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Re: Pre-screening

Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:16 am

Greeting again. I'am trying to upload a new one and would like you to judge it. Thank you for any reminders.
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Re: Pre-screening

Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:43 am

I've found that if you look at a thumbnail view you can get a better idea of the composition.
 
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Re: Pre-screening

Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:47 am

Thanks for feedback. Framed to 16:9 now.
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airkas1
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Re: Pre-screening

Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:17 am

In the 16:9 crop the aircraft is high in frame. Can't really judge the quality, as Flickr doesn't always display photos well.
 
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Re: Pre-screening

Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:05 am

Thanks for your advice, I repositioned the aircraft. In Flickr you can download the original file in full resolution.
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Re: Pre-screening

Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:45 am

Tonymancs wrote:
Thanks for your advice, I repositioned the aircraft. In Flickr you can download the original file in full resolution.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/62439242@N08/40003450965/


Hi.

For me this photo lacks some contrast.

Best,

Vinicius Cruvinel
 
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Re: Pre-screening

Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:41 pm

Thank you for your reminder. I pumped both contrast and saturation.
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Re: Pre-screening

Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:45 pm

Thank you for accepting the photo. Now I have this night shot of A345 that I don't know if WB, brightness and overall quality gonna be enough. All advice are welcome.
https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/airliners/5/9/5/4919595.jpg?v=v40661753fad
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airkas1
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Re: Pre-screening

Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:24 pm

It's got a yellow/green cast and needs more blacks and contrast. Should be easy to solve if you're shooting RAW. Also a bit soft.
 
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Re: Pre-screening

Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:45 pm

 
 
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Re: Pre-screening

Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:21 am

Hi,
The colour looks ok now but it still can have more contrast i think.Besides, it also looks slight soft i think.
I did a quick editing which i think would be better by adjusting the contrast (Did not adjust sharpness and others) :

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Cheers,
Harry
 
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Re: Pre-screening

Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:52 pm

Hi, thank you for your advice, but it seems engines are hopelessly soft, I fear adding more sharpness will the rest oversharpened. Anyway I got this shot from EDDK and a night shot:
https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/airliners/1/8/2/4947281.jpg?v=v4367c3bee45
https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/airliners/9/7/2/4947279.jpg?v=v416446d9565
 
 
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HarryLi
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Re: Pre-screening

Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:57 am

Czech Airliners : Looks overexposed to me and the colour looks weird kind of cyan i think.Also looks slight bllurry and OS to me.
Star Air: Looks low contrast to me.Also bit of underexposed i think. Sharpness looks iffy to me.
 
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airkas1
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Re: Pre-screening

Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:33 am

ATR: blurry, OS, overexposed, green
767: flat, too much noise reduction
 
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Re: Pre-screening

Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:16 pm

WB adjustment option of my editor is very limited. I'll try to fine tune it latter. Thank you for your advice.

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