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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:09 pm

Runway28L wrote:
I get that different sites may have different standards, but it just seems odd that JetPhotos accepted those three but Anet rejected them with similar reasons given. Would it be worth appealing all three or could I just go back and modify them and place them through the queue again?

I'd add the first 2 on appeal. If you decide to appeal, let me know (send me a quick E-mail at airkas1[at]airliners.net) and I'll take care of it.
 
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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:51 am

I went back and changed the color settings to sRBG this time and the color looks normal again. I wonder why PS will sometimes randomly not save my images as sRBG

No matter if the PS will help me convert it to sRGB or not, i will convert it to sRGB everytime manually before i save it. If you don't want to do so everytime you can convert it in your camera settings you'll find it in your camera and then turn it to sRGB. Thne would be ok. But, IMO. I would suggest you to make sure that you save it as sRGB when u save it although you have turned it to sRGB in you camera.
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Pay attention to this part is sRGB when you save your photos.

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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:58 am

Kas, I emailed you that I have appealed both Uniteds. Harry, thank you for the info too. My camera is already set at sRBG its just for some reason PS doesn't always do so. Will keep that in mind before I go save.
 
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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:50 am

Both Uniteds added :thumbsup:

However the color profile for these 2 is also incorrect, so a reupload is needed for both as well.
 
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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:29 pm

airkas1 wrote:
Both Uniteds added :thumbsup:

However the color profile for these 2 is also incorrect, so a reupload is needed for both as well.

Kas, thank you very much! :mrgreen:

I'll fix the color and re upload both once I get on my computer.
 
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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:00 am

New photos I took earlier today:
http://imgur.com/rZSFrwN
http://imgur.com/BTpTZgX
http://imgur.com/Girzucj
http://imgur.com/654t4cb
http://imgur.com/8ZoHbDP

These two are of the same aircraft, but I'd like to know which one is better. Personally, I think the second one looks a bit better.
http://imgur.com/UzWIilE
http://imgur.com/wc8iFDR
 
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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:52 am

 
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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:40 pm

For C-GBIA, it probably depends on what angle you like better, as the quality seems similar for both photos.
The AA seems a little blurry and oversharpened to compensate.
the Delta is a bit too sharp and yellow (despite the low sun).
 
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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:52 pm

airkas1 wrote:
For C-GBIA, it probably depends on what angle you like better, as the quality seems similar for both photos.
The AA seems a little blurry and oversharpened to compensate.
the Delta is a bit too sharp and yellow (despite the low sun).

Thanks, Kas. I'll probably go with the second Air Canada.

I'll double check the AA too because I don't remember seeing any bluriness anywhere on the aircraft when I checked the original file before editing. If there is I'll choose another file I have of it.

The Delta... is the yellow fixable at all? Maybe reduce yellow saturation? I'll also reduce the sharpening on it.
 
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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:59 pm

I agree with Kas viewpoints.
The Delta... is the yellow fixable at all? Maybe reduce yellow saturation?

I've tried to reduce yellow saturation of the delta in my LR. It does work but when you reduce the saturation i think you should pey attention to the luminance of the colour or it would be pretty weird or looks underexposed i think.

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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:23 pm

airkas1 wrote:
the Delta is a bit too sharp and yellow (despite the low sun).

HarryLi wrote:

How about this one? :scratchchin: http://imgur.com/s7FL7j9

Took 45% of yellow saturation out, Added 10% luminance, and reduced sharpening from 65% to 55%.
 
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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:37 am

Color looks great now, but the quality seems somewhat iffy still.
 
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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:43 am

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Color looks great now, but the quality seems somewhat iffy still.

Where do you think quality may be an issue? On the plane? The sky? Or even the entire image?

Also, what could be the cause of a quality issue in this particular photo? I read the overview of "Quality' in the acceptance guide but it imo it seems like I don't have the major issues that the section highlighted.
 
 
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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:01 pm

Regarding the DL Mad Dog; it still seems on the sharp side, perhaps that's why I'm thinking it looks marginal. I'm not sure if it was asked before, but what is your sharpening process like? And what values do you use for sharpening?

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SW: looks alright
JB: very oversharpened
UA: oversharpened
UA: nose gear & wing edges oversharpened
AA: nose gear oversharpened
SW: cockpit area a bit blurry, may be alright
AA: looks alright
AA: looks alright
AA: looks alright
AA: looks alright
SW: looks alright
SW: looks alright
 
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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:20 pm

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Regarding the DL Mad Dog; it still seems on the sharp side, perhaps that's why I'm thinking it looks marginal. I'm not sure if it was asked before, but what is your sharpening process like? And what values do you use for sharpening?

1. Duplicate layer
2. Select the plane and background with the magic wand
3. Inverse and expand the selection by 5
4. Apply the Smart Sharpen filter. I usually set it between 50% and 65% depending on the image, as well as noise reduction between 10-20%.
5. Use the earser at 70% opacity to mitigate jaggies, then use sharpening tool to define areas such as cockpit windows, wing boxes, and landing gear.
6. Inverse again, apply Smart Sharpen filter at 5% amd set noise reduction between 25-50%, sometimes even higher if there's no clouds and a lot of background noise.
7. Flatten image and deselect.
 
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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:03 pm

JetBlue: http://imgur.com/fXfe0Kc
-Reduced sharpening from 60% to 45%

UA: http://imgur.com/NaMxzZ6
-Reduced sharpening from 60% to 50%

UA: http://imgur.com/978cvf4
-Reduced sharpening from 60% to 55% just to be safe. Also hit the leading edge and wingtips with the eraser tool. I realized I forgot to use the eraser on both areas in the original.

AA: http://imgur.com/ZxkypZG
-I think I went a bit too excessive on the nose gear with the sharpening tool at first, so I barely went over it this time.
 
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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:16 pm

Runway28L wrote:
airkas1 wrote:
Regarding the DL Mad Dog; it still seems on the sharp side, perhaps that's why I'm thinking it looks marginal. I'm not sure if it was asked before, but what is your sharpening process like? And what values do you use for sharpening?

1. Duplicate layer
2. Select the plane and background with the magic wand
3. Inverse and expand the selection by 5
4. Apply the Smart Sharpen filter. I usually set it between 50% and 65% depending on the image, as well as noise reduction between 10-20%.
5. Use the earser at 70% opacity to mitigate jaggies, then use sharpening tool to define areas such as cockpit windows, wing boxes, and landing gear.
6. Inverse again, apply Smart Sharpen filter at 5% amd set noise reduction between 25-50%, sometimes even higher if there's no clouds and a lot of background noise.
7. Flatten image and deselect.


The method is good, but I'd like to suggest a lower amount of sharpening. Try 30%, instead of 50/65. If the image is still soft after one pass of sharpening, repeat steps one more time. Use the eraser at 100% opacity. If the top layer is jaggy, use the eraser. If the area is still jaggy, go to the first layer and use the eraser there. No further sharpening except this.

I'll look at the re-edits tomorrow, as my eyes are tired now.
 
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Re: Improvements and Opinions

Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:20 pm

airkas1 wrote:
The method is good, but I'd like to suggest a lower amount of sharpening. Try 30%, instead of 50/65. If the image is still soft after one pass of sharpening, repeat steps one more time. Use the eraser at 100% opacity. If the top layer is jaggy, use the eraser. If the area is still jaggy, go to the first layer and use the eraser there. No further sharpening except this.

I'll look at the re-edits tomorrow, as my eyes are tired now.

Thanks Kas for the quick reply :) I'll be sure to give that method a try at some point!

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