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Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:35 pm

Hi, I'm having some difficulties getting my photos accepted on airliners.net. I'll be so glad if you could give me some advice on this one:

https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... EP-MND.jpg

This is the actual size. The long side of the image is 1024px and it's cropped 16:9.
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Re: Pre-screen

Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:50 pm

darazarbaf wrote:
Hi, I'm having some difficulties getting my photos accepted on airliners.net. I'll be so glad if you could give me some advice on this one:

https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... EP-MND.jpg

This is the actual size. The long side of the image is 1024px and it's cropped 16:9.
Thanks


Hi darazarbaf,

I`m a user from the A.net website but I will try to help you with some tips. This image is oversharpened (as you can see the image has to many points with visible jaggies). Do you set a workflow?

It`s possible to show the original file to see the quality too? With this I can see the before and after from the photo.

Vinicius Cruvinel
 
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Re: Pre-screen

Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:13 am

Thanks for your reply mate,
I uploaded the original photo (converted it to JPG from RAW with highest quality) for you to look at:

https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... iginal.jpg

Edited it again and uploaded it again:

https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... /MND-1.jpg

And the workflow for this one is like this:

1st of all I leveled the image in Camera RAW and cropped it, then adjusted the exposure, highlights, shadows, contrast and clarity and removed the chromatic aberration.
After that I opened the image in Adobe Photoshop. Sharpened the image using the Nik RAW Presharpener and then reduced the noise with Nik Dfine 2. After that I used the sharpener tool and sharpened some letters and lines, then reduced the size to 1024px using Photoshop and uploaded it.

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Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:29 am

The photo is very hazed (and blurry as a result). Will likely not make it, sorry.
 
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Re: Pre-screen

Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:25 am

Thanks for your reply. Are there any chances for this one that I edited just recently?

https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... 0/FA-1.jpg

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Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:32 am

darazarbaf wrote:
Thanks for your reply. Are there any chances for this one that I edited just recently?

https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... 0/FA-1.jpg

Thanks,
Dara


I agree with airkas1, I saw the photo with some zoom and see heat haze.

About this other photo, it's appears to be a little bit oversharpened (in the text right of the flag, maybe a little bit blurried too). If not blurried it can make it, but better take a second opinion from A.net crew too!

Vinicius
 
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Re: Pre-screen

Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:37 am

Hm, it's better than the Mahan, the nose and tail look a little iffy (some slight blur), but I'd likely accept it.
 
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:46 am

It's great news so I'm going to upload it right now and post other images later to pre-screen. Thanks airkas1.
 
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:44 am

 
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:55 am

Air Universal: dull colors looks like a yellow cast
Iran 747: Poor angle and lighting
Iran 737:RI is the best of the batch but it just comes down to that cropped stabilizer. GO doesn't look too bad actually.
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:45 pm

L1011: underexposed
B747: a bit flat, but otherwise alright for me
-IGD: underexposed, high in frame
-IRI: bit high in frame, otherwise alright.
 
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:25 pm

Thanks for your feedback guys. I tried to improve the images as you suggested. Turned the exposure up a bit for L1011; added a bit of vibrance and saturation to the 742; turned the exposure up for the IGD and centered the IRI. As for the IRI, I cropped the stabilizer to hide some stairs that I didn't like to be in the image.
Here's the links:

https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... s-Rev1.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... C-Rev1.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... ners-1.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... I-Rev1.jpg

I'd be so glad if you could check them too.
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Re: Pre-screen

Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:52 pm

I also shot the ICC from another angle:
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... e2Face.jpg
 
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Re: Pre-screen

Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:39 pm

Hi,
IMO,
EP-IRI: The color of it looks bit of strange to me. I will reduce little bit Red and yellow of it. Would be more comfortable i think.And bit of Soft to me.
EP-IGD: It looks bit of Underexposed/Dark to me could be brighter i think.And the color also looks strange to me, you could reduced little bit Red and Yellow. Besides, it also looks a little soft to me but not bad.
EP-ICC ( Face 2 Face Version ) : It seems that it was obstructed by another aircraft's wing ( At the right side of the pic).
9L-LDE : I think it could be brighter and more sharpen.
By the way, it's glad to see lots of veterans ! Nice shots.

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Re: Pre-screen

Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:52 pm

Hi Harry and thanks for your feedback.
Yes the 747 wing is obstructed by an IL76 wing. The IGD link was incorrectly placed. This is the actual link to the edited one:

https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... s-Rev1.jpg

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Re: Pre-screen

Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:02 pm

The exposure looks better. But it seems need bit of CW Rotation. And you can reduce some yellow color i think. And too soft to me. The iranian part looks like Blurry.
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Re: Pre-screen

Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:27 am

I uploaded the IFA and IRI and waiting to see the result ;-).
 
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Re: Pre-screen

Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:02 am

I was also working on this 727 today. Whats your opinion on this one guys?

https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... S-Nose.jpg

And this the IGD after the reduction of red and yellow saturation:

https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... ed.-RY.jpg
 
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Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:36 pm

My two cents,

- IGD looks fine. Subtle change from the last version, but sufficient.
- The 727 feels like needing a bit of CCW. Key word being "feels". This kind of wide angle shot, with no references are always tricky.

In both cases, have you tried a bit more sharpening? They aren't excessively soft, just wondering how they would look with a bit more sharpening. These faded colors always tend to look softer.

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Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:07 pm

I agree the -IGD look passable. The level of the 727 is ok for me, but could perhaps use an extra kick of sharpening.
 
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Re: Pre-screen

Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:17 pm

Thanks for the guidance and your help guys.
I will upload the more sharpened version of the 727 tomorrow and I'm still waiting on the first one (EP-IFA) to get screened to get an upload slot for my other photos.
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Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:36 pm

A bit of extra feedback for the EP-IFA, for similar photos I would recommend to tweak the balance a bit more to the blue side.
 
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Re: Pre-screen

Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:57 am

Dear airkas1,
Thanks for the priority screening, going to take the blue side tip into account in my other edits.

I just added 2 versions of the more sharpened 727. Second one is two times more sharpened comparing to the first one. I'd be so glad if I can have your opinion on them.
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... 551-HS.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... -GDS-S.jpg

This one got rejected few days ago. It's an iPhone 7 shot that I took in Budapest Ferenc Liszt. Edited it again. Do you think it's salvageable or should I just leave it?
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/LXP.jpg

What do you think about the ICC with boosted vibrance and the L1011 with more exposure?
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... C-Rev1.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... s-Rev1.jpg

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Dara
 
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Re: Pre-screen

Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:29 pm

Been working on three of the photos I took this month. I'd be glad if I can have your opinion on them too.

https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... 6-0055.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... EP-TBC.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... EP-TFI.jpg

Cheers,
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:55 pm

darazarbaf wrote:
I just added 2 versions of the more sharpened 727. Second one is two times more sharpened comparing to the first one. I'd be so glad if I can have your opinion on them.
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... 551-HS.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... -GDS-S.jpg

Second one is definitely better.


darazarbaf wrote:
This one got rejected few days ago. It's an iPhone 7 shot that I took in Budapest Ferenc Liszt. Edited it again. Do you think it's salvageable or should I just leave it?
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/LXP.jpg

The lighting is pretty bad and it's quite oversharpened (my phone results in marginal sharpness as well). I would let it go.


darazarbaf wrote:
What do you think about the ICC with boosted vibrance and the L1011 with more exposure?
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... C-Rev1.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... s-Rev1.jpg

Both are fine for me.


darazarbaf wrote:
Been working on three of the photos I took this month. I'd be glad if I can have your opinion on them too.
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... 6-0055.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... EP-TBC.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... EP-TFI.jpg

A400: underexposed, blurry , quality
-TBC: too blurry
-TFI: too hazed
 
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Re: Pre-screen

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Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:32 am

Hi Dara,
EP-ASA : The tail part and the title have obvious blurry. Bsides, i am not sure but it seems that there are some dirty spots above the aircrafts you can have a check in PS.
EP-MMO : It seems soft to me and the front gear and windows seem little bit Blurry it's iffy maybe due to soft.
EP-LCJ : It looks better but the stabilizer seems blurry.
EP-FQG : Much better , but the title and tail look bit of soft to me. iffiy i think.
EP-FSA : The front door and front part of the aircraft have very obvious blurry.
EP-IDF :Some parts look Blurry to me .( Title , Nose, Tail )
EP-CPZ : Title and tail look blurry i think.
EP-LCI : Tail part has obvious blurry especially the stabilizer.
EP-TTA : Looks heat haze to me .
Most of your photos that you posted here are suffering from Blury i think. You can check the photos that you took and then pick up one that is clear to edit it would be better.
And you can wait more feedback on them !

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Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:51 pm

I had a look at your images and unfortunately have to agree with Harry that they are all blurry.

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Re: Pre-screen

Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:20 pm

Thanks guys, it's so sad to hear that they are not making the point but that's the way it is and I have to let them go I guess. I upload some of the photos I took on October 11th. On that day I changed some of my camera settings. I'd be so glad to hear your opinion on them:

https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... liners.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... liners.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... liners.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... liners.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... liners.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... liners.jpg
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... liners.jpg

I hope some of them have the chance and I'm waiting to hear from you guys.
Best wishes,
Dara
 
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:34 pm

The blurry situation seems much better than last time.
EP-ITP LOOKS not bad i think but the tail part seems bit of Soft or slight blurry.
EP-APJ very soft and maybe suffers from heat haze.
EP-APJ looks ok but i think the windows can have a little more sharpness.
EP-AJH, the front part of it suffers from serious heat haze it can't pass i think.
EP-ASU, front gear seems suffer from heat haze too and the nose seems bit of soft.
EP-MMO, it's iffy i think especially the sharpness. Can wait more opinions.
EP-ITA , looks soft to me.

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Re: Pre-screen

Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:21 am

Thanks Harry,
So I'll wait for the screeners to comment on them too then decide what to do with them.
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Re: Pre-screen

Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:19 pm

Hi again guys,
I’d be so glad if I can have your opinion on my last set of photos uploaded above and any edits that I can make to get them passable.
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Re: Pre-screen

Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:34 am

Hello Dara.

It looks like you are shooting through some warm air, which won't be helping you out as far as clarity is concerned. Here are my thoughts on your latest images:

EP-ITB: I think that one will be rejected for being soft. It's not bad, but there is a quality of softness to it. Mr recent experience here suggests that might fall short. I agree with Harry that it is the rear section which leaves me with that feeling - the fron part looks okay. Obviously you will have been tracking this aircraft - would your focus point have been on the front section?

EP-APJ: That one is definitely soft throughout. You can see that from the flightdeck windows, to the wing leading edges and the tail.

EP-APJ (again): I think this one is slightly better because it is closer to you. The one above suffers by you having to photograph through more presumably hot air. It is still a little soft but by far the better of the two images.

EP-AJH: Once again, that air is causing you problems.You can see this by looking at the Iranian flag on the front of the fuselage - the edges are a little wobbly, which indicates the effects of heat haze. This time the tail area looks a little better than the front section. The wing leading edge looks almost out of focus. Harry and I agree on this one too.

EP-ASU: I feel for you. That warm air again. Again the rear looks a little better than the fron - I would be interested to know where your focusing point is. Everything forward of the wings looks soft.

EP-MMO: This one looks slightly better in some respects, but still has that soft feel which all these do, I am afraid.

EP-ITA: For me this one is the best of the lot, but it still might be considered too soft by the screeners.

I noticed presiously the shots were described as blurry. Sometimes not an easy distinction between blurry and soft. Out of interest, what are the shutter speeds generally for these photos - and how much are you having to zoom (i.e. how much air are you shooting through?). The closer you are able to get to the aircraft, in your position, the better I think.

Cheers.

Paul
 
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Re: Pre-screen

Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:12 am

Hi Paul,

Thanks for your reply;

The temperature was around 26 degrees Celsius that day and the sun was out. Tehran in a very polluted city especially in this time of the year and one of the problems might be this.
My focus point was in the middle and my camera was in single point focus mode AI Servo. The shutter speed was 800 and 100 depending on the aperture number and the focal point for these shots are around 90-140 mm. Do you think I should move my focus point from the middle a little bit to the left and force the camera to focus on the fuselage and not the wing? Do you think by sharpening some the images they will be passable?

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Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:28 pm

Hi Dara.

It doesn't sound as though you are doing anything significantly wrong. can I ask - how are you sharpening the originals?

Something interesting is going on - I have had a look at a few of your shots above and it is seems it is generally the left side where the image looks softer. Just because I had a very similar issue - have you take a photo back home (so you get rid of the issue of the air) of something simple to test whether anything might be unhelpfully going on with your lens? That said, the aircraft are generally heading in that direction, so that introduces another factor.

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Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:53 am

Hi Paul,

I use Nik RAW Presharpener first, then reduce the noise and after that I use the Photoshop sharpen tool to sharpen more some of the areas. The lens is fine I have shot other photos without any blurriness. I think I should move the focus point a bit to the sides and focus on the fuselage instead of the wing.

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Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:46 am

Sadly the two photos that I uploaded last week (ICC and LDE) got rejected yesterday :-(. I'm getting a bit confused actually.
 
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Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:57 am

If -ICC and -LDE are the L1011 and B747, I can give it a go for you if you want. You can send the originals to *myusername*[at]airliners.net.
 
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Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:37 am

Sure airkas. Going to send them to you when I get home today. Thanks.
 
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Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:20 pm

Hey guys,

I've got a very rare plane that I shot a month ago. You can't find this plane shot from this angle on the internet. I want to know what you think about it and if I can get it passed screening. The problem is she came out without any notice, made a U-turn and went back to the hangar. The camera was not set so the original became very overexposed. And there was a bit of heat haze so I chose the closest shot:
https://behrazco.com/wp-content/uploads ... 87-116.jpg
Registration: 5-8316

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Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:58 pm

darazarbaf wrote:
Hey guys,

I've got a very rare plane that I shot a month ago. You can't find this plane shot from this angle on the internet.


I like the shot, according to the histogram there's no overexposure. I'm not behind a very good monitor so I can't 'judge' it much further (as if my opinion would matter anyway :-) )
There is a glare on the engine, but I don't think it's easy to avoid that.

(And there is another image of this plane from the side, on "that other website" - By the way: I like your shot better!)
Congrats on the find, it's always nice to get a rare plane in front of your lens!
 
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Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:04 pm

Hey Dara,

We have the plane in the database, so rarity is 50-50 (even if the last photo is from 2015). Your version is quite badly hazed, which is a major bummer. Honestly I think it has tough odds for getting accepted.
 
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Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:19 pm

airkas1 wrote:
Your version is quite badly hazed, which is a major bummer. Honestly I think it has tough odds for getting accepted.


I take your word for it (looking at it on a Chromebook, not very well known for their great displays :-) ) but just out of curiousity: would a 'dehaze' in Lightroom make it more acceptable?
 
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Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:40 pm

I'm not familiar with that function, as I don't use Lightroom. However a quick search tells me that that is a function to reduce hazy skies, not heat haze?
 
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Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:17 pm

airkas1 wrote:
I'm not familiar with that function, as I don't use Lightroom. However a quick search tells me that that is a function to reduce hazy skies, not heat haze?


Not so much hazy skies, more like "haze in general", but no, not heat haze.
It's mostly used to reduce the haze you get in very strong 'zoomed' images.
 
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Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:08 am

It’s so sad to hear that. Every photographer loves to have 707, 747s in their library :-).
 
 
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Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:59 pm

Hi Dara,

1. Blurry and heat hazed
2. Blurry towards the nose. Oversharpened: jaggies visible along trailing edge of wing and horiz. stabilizer
3. A tad bright but passable for me
4. Some jaggies visible on nose and titles. Backlit but exposure looks OK for me. An interesting subject that might get some leniency.
5. Crop might be an issue. The wing tip on the right side is cropped out of the frame. To balance it you could crop the left side closer to the engine to balance it. Or, show the entire aircraft. Otherwise it is acceptable for me. Hope this is helpful.

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Re: Pre-screen

Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:08 am

1. Agree that it is blurry and heat hazed
2. Agree on the blurry and OS. Would also add the heat haze to it which is why it might look OS/jagged
3. Probably okay, maybe a bit OS on the writing above the registration
4. Backlit and dark
5. Dark, motive (crop).
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Re: Pre-screen

Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:45 am

Hey guys,

As for the Falcon-50, I can't see any blurriness in the photo. It's the sun-glare that made the logo look blurry. I will work a bit more on the A300, 727 and 747 and upload them later to get your feedback on them.

Best regards,
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