Opinion, Tips and Improvements

vcruvinel · Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:04 pm

Hey guys thanks for all the replies. I will send here some original photos before start editing to get some opinion about this aspects to understand more! Principal about the heat haze problem as I have difficult to see.

Thanks again as always! Have a nice weekend

vcruvinel · Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:06 pm

Hi!

I took this picture in the same day as the Azul (http://vcruvinel.com/fotos/PR-GGG/PR-GGG.jpg) but earlier in the day. I only resize the shot to send here and I will do more sharpening in the aircraft but I need to know to understand more if this photo has heat haze (I don't see heat haze in this one) or any other problem before sharpening. With this I will know the parameters to select my photos to edit!

Thanks!

Vinicius

Many thanks!

airkas1 · Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:23 pm

It's quite blurry and very soft. Likely due to heat haze, but can't tell for sure. Any chance for a link to the original full size image?

vcruvinel · Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:08 pm

airkas1 wrote:
It's quite blurry and very soft. Likely due to heat haze, but can't tell for sure. Any chance for a link to the original full size image?

airkas1, thanks for take your time to help me! In this link (http://vcruvinel.com/fotos/originals/) you will find all the originals from this day (It's uploading all the images, but the GOL image is the first one 0065). This is the airport from my city, so is very important to understand more how I took this shots to correct the issues and know the time and places to take the best shots. From my new shots from the travels I did, I hope I don't have the same issues and the weather is very different and others points too.

Let's se if any photo has salvation lol.

Thank you very much!

Vinicius

airkas1 · Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:30 pm

I saw the GOL, Avianca A319 & A320.
The Aviancas are super hazed and will never make it. From that distance, in such warm conditions, it will 99,9999etc% not be worth it. With the GOL, the haze isn't as bad, but the image is super soft/blurry. So either that was you shaking too much or it's haze induced (which is also possible given the way haze can leave its mark in photos).

vcruvinel · Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:15 pm

airkas1 wrote:
I saw the GOL, Avianca A319 & A320.
The Aviancas are super hazed and will never make it. From that distance, in such warm conditions, it will 99,9999etc% not be worth it. With the GOL, the haze isn't as bad, but the image is super soft/blurry. So either that was you shaking too much or it's haze induced (which is also possible given the way haze can leave its mark in photos).

I uploaded a few more shots, but I think the photos are in the same way. The best move is to forget about this day and move on with new shots from Portugal and France

lol

Thank you very much!

Vinicius

vcruvinel · Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:29 pm

I will work in this two shots to learn more the parameters from the site. Can I have some prescreen?

http://vcruvinel.com/photos/Ryanair/EI-EVN/EI-EVN.jpg
http://vcruvinel.com/photos/TAP/CS-TTO/CS-TTO.jpg

Thanks!

airkas1 · Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:17 pm

The TAP is a bit blurry and will likely not make it.
The Ryanair seems a bit underexposed, but otherwise OK.

vcruvinel · Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:58 pm

airkas1 wrote:
The TAP is a bit blurry and will likely not make it.
The Ryanair seems a bit underexposed, but otherwise OK.

Do you think any of this of the TAP can make it?

http://vcruvinel.com/photos/TAP/CS-TTO/DSC_0722.NEF
http://vcruvinel.com/photos/TAP/CS-TTO/DSC_0724.NEF

About the Ryanair, see if looks better now

http://vcruvinel.com/photos/Ryanair/EI-EVN/EI-EVN2.jpg

vcruvinel · Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:17 am

I forgot to put this one, sorry!

http://vcruvinel.com/photos/Transavia/PH-HZD/PH-HZD.jpg

airkas1 · Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:14 am

Unfortunately both TAP photos are blurry, I wouldn't try them.
The Ryanair is better, but there is still room for more brightness.
The Transavia is marginal, but could be passable.

vcruvinel · Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:17 am

airkas1 wrote:
Unfortunately both TAP photos are blurry, I wouldn't try them.
The Ryanair is better, but there is still room for more brightness.
The Transavia is marginal, but could be passable.

I will put more brightness in the Ryanair!
About Transavia: what aspects can I improve in the photo?

airkas1 · Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:39 am

It could use a bit more contrast, should be alright otherwise.

vcruvinel · Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:23 am

airkas1 wrote:
It could use a bit more contrast, should be alright otherwise.

Thanks airkas1! I will put a little bit more constrast and upload after that.

Vinicius

vcruvinel · Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:05 pm

Heys guys.

Do you think this kind of shot worth a try to edit and send to A.net? It`s from my personal collection...never tried to edit and upload before one of this kind.

Thanks

airkas1 · Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:00 pm

It's noise and quite underexposed. I wouldn't hold my breath.

vcruvinel · Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:36 am

airkas1 wrote:
It's noise and quite underexposed. I wouldn't hold my breath.

Hey Kas, thanks fpr your reply! I working in others shots and send here soon.

Have a nice week!

vcruvinel · Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:11 pm

Hi! Good morning!

Can anyone please give some feedback in this shots?

http://image.ibb.co/hbG7dG/D_AIDN.jpg
http://image.ibb.co/gBauQw/G_TTOB.jpg
http://image.ibb.co/m3ATkw/A7_LAE.jpg
http://image.ibb.co/kJ28kw/D_ABZK_OK.jpg

Thanks as always!

HarryLi · Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:22 pm

QR : It looks overexposed to me and slight oversharpened i think ( some parts ). Besides, i would like to reduce little bit blue from it.
BA : it also looks overexposed for me especially the top part of the aircraft and i think it could have more contrast for me.
LH : The color of the whole picture seems pretty strange to me i think it's too blue to me ( Unnatural ) and the title looks slight oversharpened to me too especially the title part.
Eurowings : It could have more conrast to me i think and it looks soft to me too especially the bottom part of the aircraft ( The letters , wings ... ). And it also makes me feel little bit blurry but it's iffy.

Cheers,
Harry

vcruvinel · Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:56 pm

HarryLi wrote:
QR : It looks overexposed to me and slight oversharpened i think ( some parts ). Besides, i would like to reduce little bit blue from it.
BA : it also looks overexposed for me especially the top part of the aircraft and i think it could have more contrast for me.
LH : The color of the whole picture seems pretty strange to me i think it's too blue to me ( Unnatural ) and the title looks slight oversharpened to me too especially the title part.
Eurowings : It could have more conrast to me i think and it looks soft to me too especially the bottom part of the aircraft ( The letters , wings ... ). And it also makes me feel little bit blurry but it's iffy.

Cheers,
Harry

Hey Harry, thanks for your feedback. I will review the photos and improve them.

Thanks!

vcruvinel · Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:41 am

Hi!

Can I have some prescreen in this photos?

http://image.ibb.co/bBDWdG/TC_JTL.jpg
http://image.ibb.co/gWu4yG/CS_TPQ.jpg

Many thanks!

airkas1 · Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:00 pm

-JTL: looks nice!
-TPQ: a little overexposed on the fuselage. Try to reduce the highlights and then add a little bit of whites.

vcruvinel · Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:11 pm

airkas1 wrote:
-JTL: looks nice!
-TPQ: a little overexposed on the fuselage. Try to reduce the highlights and then add a little bit of whites.

Thanks for the feedback, Kas! I will upload the Turkish and get your tips to improve the TAP. Good points that I can add in my workflow in this kind of shot! I will add in my list with the others tips I got from Harry last week!

Thanks and have a nice day!

vcruvinel · Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:29 pm

airkas1 wrote:
-JTL: looks nice!
-TPQ: a little overexposed on the fuselage. Try to reduce the highlights and then add a little bit of whites.

This one is ok? http://image.ibb.co/fa1bxb/D_AIDN.jpg

If not, which aspects can I improve this photo?

Thanks!

airkas1 · Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:42 pm

It looks underexposed and oversharpened (especially the titles & registration).

HarryLi · Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:01 pm

I agree with what Kas said. And as i said before about this photo :

and the title looks slight oversharpened to me too especially the title part.

vcruvinel · Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:37 pm

Many thanks for the quick feedback, Kas and Harry! Nice to see this issues and compare with the Turkish that is good. With this compare I now have some parameters to compare.

Have a nice day!

Vinicius

BB072 · Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:00 pm

vcruvinel wrote:
Heys guys.

Do you think this kind of shot worth a try to edit and send to A.net? It`s from my personal collection...never tried to edit and upload before one of this kind.

Thanks

You used 1/4000 at ISO 1600. That didn't help, I'm afraid.

vcruvinel · Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:54 pm

BB072 wrote:
vcruvinel wrote:
Heys guys.

Do you think this kind of shot worth a try to edit and send to A.net? It`s from my personal collection...never tried to edit and upload before one of this kind.

Thanks

You used 1/4000 at ISO 1600. That didn't help, I'm afraid.

Hi! Many thanks for you feedback. Do you have any tips to improve shots like this one?

Vinicius

BB072 · Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:04 am

vcruvinel wrote:
BB072 wrote:

You used 1/4000 at ISO 1600. That didn't help, I'm afraid.

Hi! Many thanks for you feedback. Do you have any tips to improve shots like this one?

Vinicius

With that much sunlight coming right at you, a much lower ISO (100) is to be preferred (to avoid high-ISO noise)
You shot it at f8, 1/4000 ISO 1600
If you want the same aperture, you could go down to ISO 100, 1/250 in this light.

vcruvinel · Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:11 am

BB072 wrote:
vcruvinel wrote:
BB072 wrote:

You used 1/4000 at ISO 1600. That didn't help, I'm afraid.

Hi! Many thanks for you feedback. Do you have any tips to improve shots like this one?

Vinicius

With that much sunlight coming right at you, a much lower ISO (100) is to be preferred (to avoid high-ISO noise)
You shot it at f8, 1/4000 ISO 1600
If you want the same aperture, you could go down to ISO 100, 1/250 in this light.

BB072, I will do some photos with your tips (when possible of course) and post here to get some opinions and prescreen! Many thanks for you help and feedback!

vcruvinel · Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:39 pm

Hi!

Can I have some prescreen in this shot?

https://image.ibb.co/f4bQOG/PR_AIX.jpg

Thanks!

spompert · Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:07 pm

Nice one! I would say it is slightly oversharpened. I can see some jagged lines myself. Besides that I think it looks okay. But sure other will find some things

Psych · Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:35 pm

Hi. There are a couple of issues with the photo for me. Overall I feel as though the subject is placed too much towards the top left of the frame - caused by the inclusion of the wing/wing fence and the tail being cropped close to the top of the frame. I would be tempted to position it slightly lower, and I might even crop that left wing, to make it a more balanced image. But that's just a subjective view.

In the old days the shot would likely have received a 'motive' rejection, because one of the runway sign that is blocking some of the wheel. But this rule may have been relaxed more recently - you might want a more expert view on that from a screener. I agree that there are small jaggies around the titling, but hopefully this won't be seen as too bad.

Cheers.

Paul

vcruvinel · Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:49 am

spompert wrote:
Nice one! I would say it is slightly oversharpened. I can see some jagged lines myself. Besides that I think it looks okay. But sure other will find some things

Hey Stefan! So glad to see you here again help me in my photos editing process! I agree with you it`s a little bit oversharpened (as we can see some jaggies). I tried to correct and attach a new version! (in the end of this comment!)

Psych wrote:
Hi. There are a couple of issues with the photo for me. Overall I feel as though the subject is placed too much towards the top left of the frame - caused by the inclusion of the wing/wing fence and the tail being cropped close to the top of the frame. I would be tempted to position it slightly lower, and I might even crop that left wing, to make it a more balanced image. But that's just a subjective view.

In the old days the shot would likely have received a 'motive' rejection, because one of the runway sign that is blocking some of the wheel. But this rule may have been relaxed more recently - you might want a more expert view on that from a screener. I agree that there are small jaggies around the titling, but hopefully this won't be seen as too bad.

Cheers.

Paul

Hey Paul! Many thanks for you feedback! I tried to put this way in the frame to see the Brazil flag in the wing but I have to agree with you this crop didn`t work well. I tried to do a better balanced image! About the sharpness as you nd Stefan said, I tried to correct too.

Find attached the new version!

https://image.ibb.co/dZXX56/PR_AIX.jpg

Thanks!

HarryLi · Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:52 pm

The crop of it indeed looks better than the last one. But the latest one looks bit of Soft to me especially the tail.

vcruvinel · Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:15 pm

HarryLi wrote:
The crop of it indeed looks better than the last one. But the latest one looks bit of Soft to me especially the tail.

Hi Harry! Thanks for you feedback! I will improve the sharpness to see if look better, but I really in doubt about the obstruction point that Paul said.

Taking the opportunity, what about this one? Which points can I improve?

https://image.ibb.co/eCgktR/D2_TEK.jpg

HarryLi · Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:47 pm

vcruvinel wrote:
HarryLi wrote:
The crop of it indeed looks better than the last one. But the latest one looks bit of Soft to me especially the tail.

Hi Harry! Thanks for you feedback! I will improve the sharpness to see if look better, but I really in doubt about the obstruction point that Paul said.

Taking the opportunity, what about this one? Which points can I improve?

https://image.ibb.co/eCgktR/D2_TEK.jpg

Oh sorry that i missed that obstruction (Sign) well, regarding to the sign i think it would be rejected for Motive but not sure. You can wait for screeners' opinions on it. Besides, about your ANGOLA B777. The whole photo looks underexposed to me i know that there might be a appeared suddenly so the light was obstructed. However, i edited it in my PS and it seems that there is some space to improve the exposure it could be brighter. But pay attention that do not make it become overexposed as it is little hard to adjust.

Sharpness looks much better than the A330.

Cheers,
Harry

airkas1 · Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:24 pm

Psych wrote:
In the old days the shot would likely have received a 'motive' rejection, because one of the runway sign that is blocking some of the wheel. But this rule may have been relaxed more recently - you might want a more expert view on that from a screener.

We allow for up to 50% of wheel blockage.

The contrast on the Azul is harsh and the TAAG is quite underexposed.

vcruvinel · Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:55 pm

Thanks Harry and Kas for your replies and help. I adjust the exposure a tad, let`s see if it`s looks better now

here is the link for the new image

https://image.ibb.co/cW92OR/D2_TEK.jpg

Thanks!

airkas1 · Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:32 am

Much better!
Considering the cloudy conditions, I would probably give you a pass on that last edit.

vcruvinel · Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:42 am

airkas1 wrote:
Much better!
Considering the cloudy conditions, I would probably give you a pass on that last edit.

Kas, many thanks for your help and feedback! Thanks for the others members too!

Can I have some prescreen in this one?

http://image.ibb.co/n510F6/EC_LXA.jpg

Thanks!

airkas1 · Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:47 am

It's a bit high in frame, but otherwise very nice!

vcruvinel · Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:49 am

airkas1 wrote:
It's a bit high in frame, but otherwise very nice!

Thanks, Kas! This is an easy fix, I will correct and upload!

Have a nice day!

vcruvinel · Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:42 am

Hi!

What about this one?

https://i.imgur.com/Mr2zlfo.jpg

Many thanks!

spompert · Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:15 pm

HIF for sure, not on my editing computer so can`t judge on other parts.

HarryLi · Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:31 pm

This one seems to be compressed by the website that you use to show. But the website that you used before is ok to me for compression issue. But it does seem to be High In frame to me. I can't comment to the sharpness or other parts neither due to the compressing problem to me.

Cheers,
Harry

vcruvinel · Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:43 am

Hey Stefan and Harry! Many Thanks for you replies!

Can anyone please provide some feedback in this one too?

https://image.ibb.co/mi5aOR/CS_TOO.jpg

Many Thanks!

HarryLi · Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:00 pm

CS-TOO looks overexposed to me. I would tend to reduce little bit exposure. Besides, the windows look bit of soft to me ( not bad ). And... why not crop tighter ? ( Right side )

Cheers,
Harry

airkas1 · Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:05 pm

A bit overexposed from the titles to the nose and the tail. Otherwise nice.

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