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Re: pre-post screening spompert

Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:05 am

Definitely has a pink cast, but passable for me for late day lighting. If you don't already do so, it helps to include a comment to the screeners about color casts due to early or late day lighting. Sometimes one can tell due to angle of the shadows, but on this one, it's not so obvious. As I said, the image is passable for me...you could try an appeal on this one.

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Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:05 pm

Good feedback Jehan, it was accepted after appeal. Thanks.
 
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Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:07 am

Yes, I see that it was added on appeal. Glad it worked out!

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Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:18 am

Hi, this one was rejected for too much contrast and oversharpened. I agree contrast is a bit high but it gives an impression of the light at that time of the day. Should I indeed lower the contrast (because I had a similar photo lately rejected for low contrast). And which parts are oversharpened?

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Re: pre-post screening spompert

Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:00 am

Hi Stefan,
oversharpening seems pretty minor to me, visible on the smaller titles but otherwise I struggle to see it.
But for my personal liking the shot is way too contrasty, so I agree with the rejection. It is very "black" as it is if you see what I mean, would look better with less contrast, surely lightening the midtones would help.
Generally the angle is problematic with the sun coming from the back, something side-on or more form the back would be more suited for this light.

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Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:10 pm

Thanks Julien,

I think you are right and I should improve the image. I`ll re-upload it.
 
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Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:39 pm

Hello guys, I now improved the image by reducing the contrast. But now it`s rejected for red color cast and soft front. I appreciate the personal comment from the screener but it sounds a bit strange that now it`s suddenly soft. And the red color cast is due to the low light/end of the day if you ask me. Is it worth to try an appeal or should I fix it? If you click on the photo below you can see it real size.
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Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:12 pm

spompert wrote:
Hello guys, I now improved the image by reducing the contrast. But now it`s rejected for red color cast and soft front. I appreciate the personal comment from the screener but it sounds a bit strange that now it`s suddenly soft. And the red color cast is due to the low light/end of the day if you ask me. Is it worth to try an appeal or should I fix it? If you click on the photo below you can see it real size.
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Hello,I looked your photo just now and i don't consider that it is soft i think the sharpen is ok for me ...and also should be passable..but i am not sure the color problem.If it was taken under the low light situation i think it could be passable....but i am not Screener so i don't know their standard and i haven't uploaded the low light photos yet so not sure it . :?
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Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:24 pm

Stefan,

Due to the angle of the light, this image has an underexposed appearance to it especially with the nose and cockpit windows in the shadows. Sharpness seems OK on the full sized image. The image has a yellow cast to it but that is acceptable for me given the time of day. The image could use some CW rotation though: The light pole on the left as well as the tower on the right appear to be leaning to the left.

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Re: pre-post screening spompert

Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:06 pm

Is this one really soft? Which parts exactly?
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Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:08 pm

Hi Stefan,

sharpening seems okay to me.

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Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:28 pm

I wouldn't say it's soft.
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Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:59 pm

Thanks, I`ll try an appeal this time.
 
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Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:43 pm

This one was rejected for soft. At last the lightning seems to be passable but which parts should be sharpened more?
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Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:09 am

The tail looks a little soft, but is acceptable for me. It is worth an appeal.

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Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:52 am

Hi there, I was able to make a banking shot for the first time. It was rejected for low contrast and noise (in the air the screener told me). Now it has been rejected again for quality, noise and underexposed. The quality gives me an idea that it`s not salvageable. Is this right? I am hoping it can be added so hopefully the noise is the only problem now. Hope to hear from you. Thanks.

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Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:14 am

Hi Stefan,

I am not on my editing monitor, so I can't judge quality properly. Quality doesn't automatically mean that it isn't salvagable and without seeing the original that would be hard to tell generally unless a shot is really bad.
What I can say is that the sky is definitely grainy.
If you want to send me the original I can have a look and try an edit. It is a nice shot!

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Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:26 pm

Hi Stefan,

Like Julien said, the sky is definitely noisy. Exposure is fine for me. Unfortunately I also agree that the quality is marginal. It looks a bit hazed/OS, especially towards the rear.
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Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:17 am

Thanks both! Julien had a look at the original and thinks it might have a chance. So we'll keep trying. Greets
 
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Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:46 am

Another banking shot, this time a 777-200. It was rejected for noise and oversharpened. The oversharpened was not mentioned before and I didn`t really sharpen it after resizing. Which parts should be taken care of? I see a little on the cheatline but it looks minor (and before not seen by the other screener also). And the noise I thought I had removed it as much as I could. When equalized I can`t see that much in the air. So any ideas, appeal has a chance? Greets

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Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:58 pm

Quality looks kinda marginal to be honest. It looks slightly oversharpened in general, maybe a bit hazed in areas. But the fuselage from the engine forward looks soft.
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Mon May 01, 2017 3:49 pm

Thanks Kas, next image I took with difficult lightning. It`s a special scheme and would like to add it. Is it passable? Please click for full size image. Thanks
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Mon May 01, 2017 4:08 pm

Honest opinion? I'd wait to get it in better light.

But if you're hellbent on trying this one; it feels a bit blurry towards the back, especially the tail. As you say, light is marginal and I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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Mon May 01, 2017 4:11 pm

Hi , i am curious that if you add some highlight will it be better ?
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Mon May 01, 2017 4:24 pm

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Hi , i am curious that if you add some highlight will it be better ?

Nope, that will not fix this.
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Mon May 01, 2017 4:37 pm

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HarryLi wrote:
Hi , i am curious that if you add some highlight will it be better ?

Nope, that will not fix this.

oK.. it is very hard to edit bad weather i think.
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Tue May 02, 2017 7:57 am

Hi Stefan,
I can only echo Kas, wait until you get in good / better light (it seems to be in AMS everyday- so you'll possibly get it sooner or later). The problem is the sky is brighter than the airplane, so it will be tough to have a properly lit airplane without the sky looking blown out.

Using the shadow / highlight tool is rarely a solution if you ask me.
 
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Tue May 02, 2017 7:04 pm

Hi Kas and Julien, you are right. I better try it next time with better light.
 
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Sat May 06, 2017 11:16 am

Rejected for dark, low contrast and soft. I can`t really see all three. Anybody agrees?
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Sat May 06, 2017 11:59 am

spompert wrote:
Rejected for dark, low contrast and soft. I can`t really see all three. Anybody agrees?
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Hello, i think this one indeed need some contrast and can be brighter .The sharpness is ok for me .
And i download your photo and have a quick edit in PS i saw the his Histogram it indeed can brighter than this. And here is i edited one.
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/957x6 ... gGxKJc.jpg

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Sat May 06, 2017 5:40 pm

It actually looks blurry.
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Sun May 07, 2017 2:12 pm

Thank you Harry and Kas, I might leave this one because I had a look at the original and noted indeed it was not sharp enough. Had to take it from some distance.Next time better.
 
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Sun May 14, 2017 8:46 pm

Hi, rejected for oversharpened. Where? The Wamos text or more overall? Click to see full size. Thanks
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Tue May 16, 2017 7:12 am

The title seems a little bit OS i guess.
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Re: pre-post screening spompert

Tue May 16, 2017 7:21 am

Hi Stefan,

yes the tiles are slightly oversharpened, otherwise the aircraft is fine.

If you are doing another edit, I would correct the lense distortion as well, would look better in my opinion. Though it is not a rejection reason of course.

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Tue May 16, 2017 6:58 pm

Thanks Harry and Julien, I`ll retry. Unfortunately there is for distortion no option to choose standard lenses in PSE so I need to see how I can fix that in future times. Greets
 
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Tue May 16, 2017 7:09 pm

There is a function in the RAW converter.
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Re: pre-post screening spompert

Thu May 18, 2017 7:45 am

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There is a function in the RAW converter.


True. Otherwise I could do it for you as well, Stefan. It takes a few seconds in CS6, send me a mail if you want :D

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