User avatar
Braybuddy
Topic Author
Posts: 6146
Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:14 pm

Is this pic fake?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:00 pm

Just saw this pic on the homepage under Photograpers' Choice. It looks great, but is it real? What are the lines radiating out across the water? A Photoshop radial filter? The reflection looks suspiciously perfect, not a sign of a ripple or distortion, which would be very unusual:
Image

Any thoughts?
 
KLDC10
Posts: 689
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:15 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:24 pm

I guess it has been through the very thorough screening process, and that the screeners would be able to tell if it had been photoshopped or not, so I guess the likelihood is that it is indeed real. It is an unusually perfect shot though.
DC9/MD90/MD11/F70/BAE146/Q400/737/738/739/752/763/772/A320/A321/A332/A333/E190
 
tommy1808
Posts: 6163
Joined: Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:24 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:47 pm

Braybuddy wrote:
not a sign of a ripple or distortion, which would be very unusual:


With no Wind or other disturbances, water is perfectly flat, and makes for a good mirror.

best rgards
Thomas
Times are changing: 70 years ago the USA went to war to defeat the Nazis, now they elect them to run their country.
 
User avatar
Tugger
Posts: 6776
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:38 am

Re: Is this pic fake?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:53 pm

I am thinking it is a photoshop because the reflection is a perfect mirror of the scene, the plane and the sky. You see the EXACT same thing in the reflection, with the apparent identical angle in the reflection, that you see above (the sky and clouds) and below the plane. There should be a slight perspective shift in the two images since you are viewing the background and foreground at different angles (you should see a bit less sky between the top of the plane and the clouds in the background and a bit more underneath. Look at the yellow stand (stairs?) at the nose of the aircraft, there is no shift all. You can see the shift in this picture, look at the trees in the background:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Fly-Jama ... 757-23N//L


I would say that in particular you should be able to easily see a shift in the view of the wing in front of the fuselage in the reflection, and there is no shift.

Tugg
Last edited by Tugger on Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I don’t know that I am unafraid to be myself, but it is hard to be somebody else. -W. Shatner
 
User avatar
Braybuddy
Topic Author
Posts: 6146
Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:14 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:13 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
With no Wind or other disturbances, water is perfectly flat, and makes for a good mirror.

best rgards
Thomas

True, when you're talking about water over a certain depth, but very shallow pool in an airport would probably have minute pieces of debris on the surface.

Tugger wrote:
I am thinking it is a photoshop because the reflection is a perfect mirror of the scene the plan and the sky.

Tugg

I'm more convinced now that it is a fake. What you say is true, apart from the reflection of the clouds underneath the fin: they do not exist at all in the real picture! If you look at them, they are grey, yet in the reflection there's a small bank of white fluffy clouds which are not acually there.
 
User avatar
casinterest
Posts: 5718
Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:30 am

Re: Is this pic fake?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:25 pm

Fake.

Too perfect of a flip.

No change of perspective as others have mentioned.
Older than I just was ,and younger than I will soo be.
 
ChrisKen
Posts: 216
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:15 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:59 pm

Certainly doctored.
Perfect reflection on a puddle with a remarkable straight edge, when the other parts of the apron are bone dry.
Reflection looks wrong around the engine nacelle and the reg is missing on the reflected wing underside.
All along the edge of the reflection the base of the aircraft is obscure by cloud. Particularly the reflected nosewheel doors.
Not to mention the weird radials.

Don't know what date is on the submission, maybe came in under earlier rules but it's certainly not as seen. Strongly suspect that 'puddle' never existed.
 
af773atmsp
Posts: 2122
Joined: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:37 am

Re: Is this pic fake?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:38 pm

In the reflection it looks like the front gear is missing. There is just enough water that you should be able to see the reflection of the front gear. I could be wrong though, I'm not a photo or Photoshop expert.
It ain't no normal MD80 its a Super 80!
 
KLDC10
Posts: 689
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:15 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:43 pm

ChrisKen wrote:
Certainly doctored.
Perfect reflection on a puddle with a remarkable straight edge, when the other parts of the apron are bone dry.
Reflection looks wrong around the engine nacelle and the reg is missing on the reflected wing underside.
All along the edge of the reflection the base of the aircraft is obscure by cloud. Particularly the reflected nosewheel doors.
Not to mention the weird radials.

Don't know what date is on the submission, maybe came in under earlier rules but it's certainly not as seen. Strongly suspect that 'puddle' never existed.


You can just see the reflection of the registration if you zoom in - though it isn't that clear.
You're right about the edge of the puddle - you'd only get that straight an edge on a trough, and I don't think there are many of those at airports!
The radials are indeed weird, especially the way they appear to overlay the reflection.
DC9/MD90/MD11/F70/BAE146/Q400/737/738/739/752/763/772/A320/A321/A332/A333/E190
 
JakTrax
Posts: 4722
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:30 am

Re: Is this pic fake?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:12 pm

Reading the first couple of posts I was gonna say that we should give benefit of doubt, however that band of white cumulus should be visible in the refection but indeed isn't. Looking at the perspective I can see no reason why it wouldn't be reflected, as every other detail surrounding it is.

Perhaps a little harsh to say 'fake' but I certainly think some manipulation has gone on.......

On a related note, although it's generally considered bad form to publicly question a photographer's work, one must realise that, by putting images onto the internet, one basically invites and therefore should accept critique. No need for the photographer to feel offended; on the contrary, if there's no foul play, he should be commended for his efforts!

Karl
 
njxc500
Posts: 215
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:47 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:09 am

Braybuddy wrote:
Just saw this pic on the homepage under Photograpers' Choice. It looks great, but is it real? What are the lines radiating out across the water? A Photoshop radial filter? The reflection looks suspiciously perfect, not a sign of a ripple or distortion, which would be very unusual:
Image

Any thoughts?


The radiating lines are the grooves in the concrete.

I think this photo is real. Good job by the photographer.
 
User avatar
airkas1
Crew
Posts: 5953
Joined: Sat Dec 20, 2003 7:01 am

Re: Is this pic fake?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:35 am

Hi all,

We're investigating and the photograper has been asked for the original. Will keep you posted, thanks for all input so far.
Airliners.net Crew - Head Photo Screener
 
User avatar
WingsFan
Posts: 273
Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:24 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:16 pm

njxc500 wrote:
Braybuddy wrote:
Just saw this pic on the homepage under Photograpers' Choice. It looks great, but is it real? What are the lines radiating out across the water? A Photoshop radial filter? The reflection looks suspiciously perfect, not a sign of a ripple or distortion, which would be very unusual:
Image

Any thoughts?


The radiating lines are the grooves in the concrete.

I think this photo is real. Good job by the photographer.


I am rooting for this to be proved legit. Concrete grooves captured as radiating rays...how cool is that?
 
User avatar
airkas1
Crew
Posts: 5953
Joined: Sat Dec 20, 2003 7:01 am

Re: Is this pic fake?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:17 pm

So I spoke to the photographer; the rays are indeed grooves in the concrete. I'm satisfied that the photo is real, so no further action will be taken.
Airliners.net Crew - Head Photo Screener
 
User avatar
Braybuddy
Topic Author
Posts: 6146
Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:14 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:16 pm

airkas1 wrote:
So I spoke to the photographer; the rays are indeed grooves in the concrete. I'm satisfied that the photo is real, so no further action will be taken.

Hmmm. . . how does he explain the addition of the clouds under the tail, and the identical perspective, which Tugger has pointed out should be different?
 
User avatar
airkas1
Crew
Posts: 5953
Joined: Sat Dec 20, 2003 7:01 am

Re: Is this pic fake?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:29 pm

Braybuddy wrote:
airkas1 wrote:
So I spoke to the photographer; the rays are indeed grooves in the concrete. I'm satisfied that the photo is real, so no further action will be taken.

Hmmm. . . how does he explain the addition of the clouds under the tail, and the identical perspective, which Tugger has pointed out should be different?

He didn't say, but the clouds underneath the tail could very well be there and at the time visible by the eye, but not by the camera? (it's an iPhone 6 photo by the way, not sure if that has any relevance). I'll try to replicate at work next week with my phone, it's certainly wet enough now...
Airliners.net Crew - Head Photo Screener
 
User avatar
glen
Posts: 305
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:43 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:32 pm

Braybuddy wrote:
Hmmm. . . how does he explain the addition of the clouds under the tail, and the identical perspective, which Tugger has pointed out should be different?


To be honest I can't explain the "clouds" either, but something in the puddle close to the surface, causing a different breaking of light could be a possibility. It remains questionable, however the fact that adding additional objects into a otherwise 1 to 1 copy does not make sense at all. Why should someone deliberately ruin an otherwise perfect fake?

The perspective however seems to be absolut right. On pictures with the camera very close to the ground, no shift in perspective can be seen, for objects far in the background:


With an object closer to the aircraft a slight change in perspective can be seen, but only at second glance:

Tugger wrote:
I am thinking it is a photoshop because the reflection is a perfect mirror of the scene, the plane and the sky. You see the EXACT same thing in the reflection, with the apparent identical angle in the reflection, that you see above (the sky and clouds) and below the plane. There should be a slight perspective shift in the two images since you are viewing the background and foreground at different angles (you should see a bit less sky between the top of the plane and the clouds in the background and a bit more underneath. Look at the yellow stand (stairs?) at the nose of the aircraft, there is no shift all. You can see the shift in this picture, look at the trees in the background:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Fly-Jama ... 757-23N//L


I would say that in particular you should be able to easily see a shift in the view of the wing in front of the fuselage in the reflection, and there is no shift.

Tugg

Only with the camera higher above the ground and with objects close to the aircraft, the shift in perspective can be easely seen:
"The horizon of many people is a circle with zero radius which they call their point of view." - Albert Einstein
 
User avatar
dvincent
Posts: 1515
Joined: Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:53 am

Re: Is this pic fake?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:05 pm

airkas1 wrote:
So I spoke to the photographer; the rays are indeed grooves in the concrete. I'm satisfied that the photo is real, so no further action will be taken.


Did he provide a RAW file or high-res camera original?
From the Mind of Minolta
 
User avatar
airkas1
Crew
Posts: 5953
Joined: Sat Dec 20, 2003 7:01 am

Re: Is this pic fake?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:16 pm

dvincent wrote:
Did he provide a RAW file or high-res camera original?

It's an iPhone photo; there is no RAW or 'proper' high-res original. However, I do believe I have the original photo. In the photo, the clouds show the same as in the edit that was uploaded.
Airliners.net Crew - Head Photo Screener
 
User avatar
Braybuddy
Topic Author
Posts: 6146
Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:14 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:54 pm

airkas1 wrote:
He didn't say, but the clouds underneath the tail could very well be there and at the time visible by the eye, but not by the camera? (it's an iPhone 6 photo by the way, not sure if that has any relevance). I'll try to replicate at work next week with my phone, it's certainly wet enough now...

There is a paradox here though: if the perspective is identical, as it is in the rest of the photograph, those clouds should not be in the reflection. Also, radial grooves on an airport apron? I have never heard of this before, and what would be their function? Would be quite expensive to create, and what reason? And they raditate out right from the centre of the pic, which is exactly where you would put them if you were adding them in Photoshop. I ran this fake up in 15 minutes, using an old version of Photoshop Elements:

Image


Also, the edge of the puddle seems too straight to be real (there even seems to be a quite sharp edge to the right):

Image

My fake:

Image
 
vikkyvik
Posts: 12070
Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:58 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:38 pm

glen wrote:
To be honest I can't explain the "clouds" either, but something in the puddle close to the surface, causing a different breaking of light could be a possibility. It remains questionable, however the fact that adding additional objects into a otherwise 1 to 1 copy does not make sense at all. Why should someone deliberately ruin an otherwise perfect fake?The perspective however seems to be absolut right. On pictures with the camera very close to the ground, no shift in perspective can be seen, for objects far in the background:

glen wrote:
Only with the camera higher above the ground and with objects close to the aircraft, the shift in perspective can be easely seen:


Agreed.

Braybuddy wrote:
There is a paradox here though: if the perspective is identical, as it is in the rest of the photograph, those clouds should not be in the reflection.


Unless there is a slight difference in the water surface there. Maybe a slight wave or ripple, or anything that changes the angle of the water. It wouldn't take much at all. It does seem odd, but it is a possibility.

Braybuddy wrote:
Also, radial grooves on an airport apron?


They are not radial. They are standard parallel grooves. They look radial because the camera is extremely close to the ground. I'd say within a few inches.

Braybuddy wrote:
And they raditate out right from the centre of the pic, which is exactly where you would put them if you were adding them in Photoshop.


They actually "radiate" from slightly right of center. If you look closely at the grooves you can see in the apron (past the water), those grooves "radiate" from that same spot.

I can't explain why the grooves in the water look the way they do (like shadows), but again, the camera is extremely close to the ground. I think that perspective is throwing people off. Those grooves are probably a half inch wide, but they're very close to the camera and very out of focus.

Braybuddy wrote:
Also, the edge of the puddle seems too straight to be real (there even seems to be a quite sharp edge to the right):


It's quite possible that the puddle ends at a seam in the concrete.

Anyway, I don't know whether it's real or fake. Just offering some possibilities.
I'm watching Jeopardy. The category is worst Madonna songs. "This one from 1987 is terrible".
 
User avatar
dvincent
Posts: 1515
Joined: Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:53 am

Re: Is this pic fake?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:53 pm

airkas1 wrote:
dvincent wrote:
Did he provide a RAW file or high-res camera original?

It's an iPhone photo; there is no RAW or 'proper' high-res original. However, I do believe I have the original photo. In the photo, the clouds show the same as in the edit that was uploaded.


"high res original" as in the 8MP original camera JPEG from the iPhone 6, which is always an option.
From the Mind of Minolta
 
User avatar
airkas1
Crew
Posts: 5953
Joined: Sat Dec 20, 2003 7:01 am

Re: Is this pic fake?

Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:02 am

dvincent wrote:
"high res original" as in the 8MP original camera JPEG from the iPhone 6, which is always an option.

I have a 1.62MB 3264x2448px file. The size is equivalent to my own iPhone 6(S) photos.
Airliners.net Crew - Head Photo Screener
 
User avatar
Braybuddy
Topic Author
Posts: 6146
Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:14 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:22 am

vikkyvik wrote:
Braybuddy wrote:
There is a paradox here though: if the perspective is identical, as it is in the rest of the photograph, those clouds should not be in the reflection.


Unless there is a slight difference in the water surface there. Maybe a slight wave or ripple, or anything that changes the angle of the water. It wouldn't take much at all. It does seem odd, but it is a possibility.

You can clearly see that the suface is perfectly smooth. There is no distortion at all. Here are the two sections compared. How can an exact mirror-reflection add something which is not there? The area I have outlined is completely different. It can't be anything to do with ripples or perspective, as ripples will only obscure the part, and there are adjoining parts which are completely different, which would rule out perspective:

Image

vikkyvik wrote:
It's quite possible that the puddle ends at a seam in the concrete.

Possibly, but isn't it a coincidence that the seam is perfectly parallel to the bottom of the photograph, which is how it would appear if you were cropping the pic and adding a basic radial filter?

And going back to perspective, other pics posted have shown a slight difference in perspective, such as in the Swiss pic:

Image

There would seem to be no difference whatsoever in perspective in the disputed pic

Image

. . . even with objects closer to the aircraft which, as someone else has said above, should be more noticeable:

Image
 
User avatar
dvincent
Posts: 1515
Joined: Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:53 am

Re: Is this pic fake?

Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:41 am

airkas1 wrote:
dvincent wrote:
"high res original" as in the 8MP original camera JPEG from the iPhone 6, which is always an option.

I have a 1.62MB 3264x2448px file. The size is equivalent to my own iPhone 6(S) photos.


...yes? That works out to 8 megapixels.
From the Mind of Minolta
 
JakTrax
Posts: 4722
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:30 am

Re: Is this pic fake?

Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:16 pm

It just doesn't add up, but without conclusive evidence I doubt there's much anyone can do to remove the image. My personal feeling is that it's doctored, but the iPhone clearly doesn't have the capabilities for us to determine whether or not the image has been tampered with.

Karl
 
G-CIVP
Posts: 1552
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2001 6:38 am

Re: Is this pic fake?

Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:13 pm

I thought this thread would be about the G-VIIH photo. I can't believe someone just happened to be in the right place at the right time to capture it.
 
User avatar
Braybuddy
Topic Author
Posts: 6146
Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:14 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:15 pm

JakTrax wrote:
It just doesn't add up, but without conclusive evidence I doubt there's much anyone can do to remove the image. My personal feeling is that it's doctored, but the iPhone clearly doesn't have the capabilities for us to determine whether or not the image has been tampered with.

Karl

Until I find something about the pic that confirms that it's real I would have to agree. With all the other pics there are things (perspective, water surface, edge of puddle) which at least give the impression that they are real pics, although you can never be too sure with the sophisticated editing software available nowadays. With this pic I really struggle to find anything to confirm that it's real. Even if those radiating lines are grooves in the apron, the effect looks unnatural.
 
ChrisKen
Posts: 216
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:15 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:59 pm

If it's too good to be true, it usually isn't.
The entire lower half of the shot has been added. There's a whole host of iPhone apps that will create precisely this 'effect'.
 
User avatar
Catalin81
Posts: 134
Joined: Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:03 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:12 pm

In my opinion you should post the needitata if you say you have it, to eliminate all the suspicions. If you have it and just say verbally that you have it and it is not fake without showing it is not honest with the other users I raised the problem.
 
solro
Posts: 54
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:22 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:36 am

Just cross a line on the border of the reflexion, its a perfect straight line not even a pixel up or down at any point. This means that one plate was fully flooded while all the others seem dry. Highly impossible in my opinion. If I was running this site I would ask the whole sequence.
 
User avatar
cpd
Posts: 5030
Joined: Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:46 am

Re: Is this pic fake?

Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:13 am

I'm also going with it being doctored as well - it just looks too perfect. I was never a screener, but I can usually pick the fakes and for all the things pointed out above, I agree with them.

I'm not saying that lightly. :(
 
Jalap
Posts: 382
Joined: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:25 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:26 pm

Looking at other photo's from the same photographer makes me believe this shot is 100% real. He's a great photographer with classic and creative shots. Well worth having a look at.

He also has the shot below. It also shows the radials although less obvious. And nobody would doubt the authenticity of this one:

 
ChrisKen
Posts: 216
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:15 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:58 pm

Jalap wrote:
Looking at other photo's from the same photographer makes me believe this shot is 100% real. He's a great photographer with classic and creative shots. Well worth having a look at.
He also has the shot below. It also shows the radials although less obvious. And nobody would doubt the authenticity of this one


Honestly, while at first glance that looks more plausible, take a closer look and it looks pretty good candidate for being 'doctored' too. The same goes for all his 'reflected' shots I looked at subsequently.
 
User avatar
Braybuddy
Topic Author
Posts: 6146
Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:14 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:45 am

ChrisKen wrote:
Honestly, while at first glance that looks more plausible, take a closer look and it looks pretty good candidate for being 'doctored' too

In fairness to the photographer, I do believe that that pic is genuine. I've made some similar comparisons to the ones I made for Tibet Airlines, and they are very different:
There is quite a lot of distortion, and a difference in perspective (just look at the position of the clouds around the top black line, and the VHF antenna in the two images):
Image

Just look at the distortion here (I've aligned the same point on the horizontal stabiliser):
Image

This is very different to the exact mirror image of the Tibet Airlines reflection.
 
ChrisKen
Posts: 216
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:15 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:04 pm

It's the 'distortions' that are causing me the concern. Very regular, very manufactured looking, similar profiles across both individual pics and the 'series'.
All screaming the use of an app/filter to me.
As previously said, there's plenty of apps available that produce exactly these effects, especially for the iPhone he's supposedly taken the shots on (that in itself is a red flag knowing how hard it is to get shots into the database with a full sized camera).
Take shot, let app do work, save as full size, claim as 'original'.

Three seconds work in an unfamilar and very basic 'reflections' app. Others are a lot more sophisticated, allowing the foreground to be 'overlaid' with the varied effects, in custom selected locations, resulting in a final picture with very similar appearance to the questionable pictures. Just my opinion.
Image
 
User avatar
Braybuddy
Topic Author
Posts: 6146
Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:14 pm

Re: Is this pic fake?

Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:06 pm

ChrisKen wrote:
It's the 'distortions' that are causing me the concern. Very regular, very manufactured looking, similar profiles across both individual pics and the 'series'.
All screaming the use of an app/filter to me.

I honestly don't know, I was just prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt on that pic, as I couldn't find anything to raise a red flag, such as the different cloud formation and the perfectly level edge to the puddle that exists in the Tibet pic. If the Sichuan one is doctored, it is a superb job, whereas the Tibet one raises multiple red flags, which remain unanswered.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: kunta67 and 3 guests

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos