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753 for freight ops?

Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:17 pm

I was driving by the FLL Fedex facility today and there was a 752 parked at the ramp. Seeing the 752 out there made me wonder if there might be a market for older 753s by Fedex and UPS seeing that the 753 can seemingly handle quite a bit more freight than the 752.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
 
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Re: 753 for freight ops?

Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:21 pm

The hard part would be finding one in the first place. Only 55 757-300s were built, and as far as I'm aware, most, if not all of them, are still in service. United and Delta alone account for 37 of them.
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Re: 753 for freight ops?

Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:25 pm

I don’t see why not in a few years. But being a small fleet, a few would have to be converted to cover the STC cost. It could probably take 18 pallets like the stretched DC-8s, but probably only about 40 metric tons (close to 90K lbs) of payload (similar to a 757PF). The DC-8-63 freighters carried around 50 tons (110K lbs).
 
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Re: 753 for freight ops?

Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:40 am

arcticcruiser wrote:
I don’t see why not in a few years.

I guess that would also depend on if the few airlines that do have them even plan to give them up at some point or if they plan to use them for the remainder of their useful lives. Delta has 16 of them, and they tend to use planes as long as they can. That would leave another 39, of which United has 21.
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Re: 753 for freight ops?

Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:14 am

I could see Delta dumping theirs when their A321neo arrives. They'll have enough to replace the remaining 757 fleet. United loves the 753 and will probably fly them until they are completely used up.
 
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Re: 753 for freight ops?

Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:59 pm

Will never happen. There is too little feedstock available to make the development of a conversion viable. The STC can't be shared with the 757-200, a new one will have to be developed and certified, and for less than 55 potential aircraft, that just won't be economically feasible.
The 2 biggest operators don't have a reputation for letting aircraft go with much life left in them. Feedstock also needs to have a certain amount of life left, so the investment won't have to be scrapped after a few years because they run out of cycles, hours or are simply worn out and keep breaking.
 
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Re: 753 for freight ops?

Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:30 pm

AirKevin wrote:
The hard part would be finding one in the first place. Only 55 757-300s were built, and as far as I'm aware, most, if not all of them, are still in service. United and Delta alone account for 37 of them.


If 55 were produced and the following numbers are still flying:
Delta - 16
United - 21
Thomas Cook group - 15
That accounts for 52 of the 55, do you know the fate of the remaining 3? Are they still flying, if so who with, or have they been stored/scrapped?
 
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Re: 753 for freight ops?

Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:01 am

Dispatcher9999 wrote:
AirKevin wrote:
The hard part would be finding one in the first place. Only 55 757-300s were built, and as far as I'm aware, most, if not all of them, are still in service. United and Delta alone account for 37 of them.


If 55 were produced and the following numbers are still flying:
Delta - 16
United - 21
Thomas Cook group - 15
That accounts for 52 of the 55, do you know the fate of the remaining 3? Are they still flying, if so who with, or have they been stored/scrapped?

Icelandair has two, Arkia has the third. Looking at Planespotters.net, it looks like the one for Arkia is going to Condor at some point.
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Re: 753 for freight ops?

Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:57 pm

AirKevin wrote:
Dispatcher9999 wrote:
AirKevin wrote:
The hard part would be finding one in the first place. Only 55 757-300s were built, and as far as I'm aware, most, if not all of them, are still in service. United and Delta alone account for 37 of them.


If 55 were produced and the following numbers are still flying:
Delta - 16
United - 21
Thomas Cook group - 15
That accounts for 52 of the 55, do you know the fate of the remaining 3? Are they still flying, if so who with, or have they been stored/scrapped?

Icelandair has two, Arkia has the third. Looking at Planespotters.net, it looks like the one for Arkia is going to Condor at some point.



Thanks, I completely forgot Icelandair had some. I believe it is soon to join Condor, I think they are looking to increase their fleet. I know the two from Thomas Cook UK (GJMAA/GJMAB) are in the process of transferring to Condor (DABOP/DABOR). So 4XBAU joining as DABOS makes sense.
 
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Re: 753 for freight ops?

Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:13 am

There is no point in it. A 762 carries the same volume if not more and a 763 certainly carries more. Operating cost difference between a 753 and 763 are not any where near great enough to justify an STC and long term support.

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