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darlyn
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How much will it cost to repair this APU?

Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:49 am

E145 N14568 backed into a truck at EWR. See full image for details.
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Repair estimates?
 
WIederling
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Re: How much will it cost to repair this APU?

Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:52 am

ref: https://fsbrasil.files.wordpress.com/20 ... nit_e1.pdf

There is quite a bit of exhaust pipe between the outside and the APU proper.
But still I'd guess damage will reach into the structural bulkhead the APU is attached to.
 
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Re: How much will it cost to repair this APU?

Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:19 am

Needs a new rudder too ... won’t be cheap!
 
stratclub
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Re: How much will it cost to repair this APU?

Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:38 pm

Preliminary estimate from just one exterior picture: More than $1 and less than $5M.
Inspect, Replace or Repair:
    Apu and associated components
    *Rudder
    *Fin rear spar
    *Rudder actuators
    *Rudder control cables and quadrants

    Tail cone
    Exhaust pipe
    Stainless steel shroud around tail pipe
    Forward fire wall
    Firewall around apu
    Apu engine mounting
    Associated primary and secondary structure
    Aircraft wiring
    Aircraft fuel plumbing
    Bleed air ducting
It is very difficult to tell the extend of the damage from a single picture.
*If the rudder was powered when the incident happened it could have caused additional damage.
 
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Re: How much will it cost to repair this APU?

Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:43 pm

stratclub wrote:
Preliminary estimate from just one exterior picture: More than $1 and less than $5M.
Inspect, Replace or Repair:
    Apu and associated components
    *Rudder
    *Fin rear spar
    *Rudder actuators
    *Rudder control cables and quadrants

    Tail cone
    Exhaust pipe
    Stainless steel shroud around tail pipe
    Forward fire wall
    Firewall around apu
    Apu engine mounting
    Associated primary and secondary structure
    Aircraft wiring
    Aircraft fuel plumbing
    Bleed air ducting
It is very difficult to tell the extend of the damage from a single picture.
*If the rudder was powered when the incident happened it could have caused additional damage.

So, as nobody else asked... Is it a write-off?
At high end of an estimate, $5M, it is not impossible to be the case for a 16 year old frame...
 
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Re: How much will it cost to repair this APU?

Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:10 am

That should buff right out.
 
stratclub
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Re: How much will it cost to repair this APU?

Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:19 am

kalvado wrote:
So, as nobody else asked... Is it a write-off?
At high end of an estimate, $5M, it is not impossible to be the case for a 16 year old frame...

Probably not a write off. $5M would be a worst case doom and gloom estimate. Without having an accurate survey of the damage, I would throw that number out there with the understanding that once the damage is fully known a real world estimate would be presented based on the survey.

So really, $5M or less, probably a lot less. And who knows? If they had an aircraft down for a heavy check, They might be able to can the parts and have the damaged aircraft flying within a week or 2.
 
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Re: How much will it cost to repair this APU?

Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:19 pm

Hope they had accident forgiveness! :duck:
 
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Re: How much will it cost to repair this APU?

Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:47 pm

Pour some hot water on that rudder. It’ll pop right out.
 
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Re: How much will it cost to repair this APU?

Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:41 pm

darlyn wrote:
E145 N14568 backed into a truck at EWR. See full image for details.
Image

Repair estimates?


The repair estimate has to be based on whether the APU itself is damaged or just the tail cone. the rudder could be repaired pretty quickly depending on the damage but you would first have to estimate the damage to the hinge structure on the rudder and the vertical stabilizer. If those are ok? Then the composite repairs appear minor and could be fixed by them? Or send it to SFO for repair as United will only charge them for Time and Materials. I'd estimate the rudder repair under $10K
I can't give you an estimate for the APU as I've never laid Eyed on one of theirs..
 
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Re: How much will it cost to repair this APU?

Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:10 am

Sounds about right. If any hidden damage is minor, It could be back to flying in a few days. If the info I found is correct, the aircraft is operated by Continental Express and I would imagine that they may even have some EMB145's parked or in heavy maintenance to can some parts from somewhere in their system. So, definitely under $5M. Do you think the repairs could come in at $100K to $1M If hidden damage is minor?

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