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serworacle wrote:It's the first time so I haven't had any airline experience. As well as other company, our company has done the procedures according to flows which I follow but the problem is that while following I miss some answers which I'm looking for. Of course each airline has its own procedure flow and I know that, but what I would like to know is that when any flight crew switch something on or off, why any related lights are on or off! actuall I need panel description(aft and forward overhead,) in detailed. Like saying, if you switch that button on, this light will extinguish because of this, etc. thanks..
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serworacle wrote:Hi everyone. I just got accepted as a FO candidate for an airline company and they appointed me 737-800 fleet. It's been 2 weeks for now. Interestingly, we haven't been taught anything related to the aircraft, They have given us some free time to self study from cbt's which is not so efficient for me because I can't ask any why and what questions. They give us some lessons like meteorology etc but no systems, Fmc or start up procedures. Ok we got Fcom or operations manual but at some point we need to ask why?
As for my question, How should I study? For example, When I follow the electrical power up and start up procedures, fcom says "switch that button on and verify this light illuminates " ok I do that but why the light illuminates? I wanted to learn with the reasons. One of my friend showed me a app called cockpit companion. But it's so expensive.. (pls try not to write "you'll be a pilot and earn good money" because I am a student now:). I need this s kind of apps or documents . it may not be a app, could be a document as well. I hope you help me.. thanks in advance.
Safe flight..
Redbellyguppy wrote:Cockpit companion is an invaluable resource. It's worth the investment.
barney captain wrote:Redbellyguppy wrote:Cockpit companion is an invaluable resource. It's worth the investment.
If you knew the history of the author, I would hope you would never endorse it's purchase.
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Redbellyguppy wrote:Barney, I wasn't. CAL scab? In that case you can get the Boeing FRM and do much of the same for yourself. Mine was a gift from a mentor and I referred to it continuously during my type.
stratosphere wrote:Are you kidding? No offense but I don't want to fly on your airline your description of your training thus far is scary to say the least.
Starlionblue wrote:You're only 2 weeks in. CBT learning is tedious but you have to start somewhere. I'd say learning the flows for normal procedures and memory procedures, as well as limitations is a good start. Practice, practice, practice your flows. It gives you a skeleton which you can then add meat to. Of course, learning the systems in depth is important but learn to crawl before you walk.
The problem you are facing seems fairly typical. There is a lot of material and you're at the point where you don't know what you don't know. The first few weeks of my airline induction are a bit of a blur to be honest.
My method of study: Any questions, write them down and research them. Make up more questions. Think of operational scenarios (e.g. what happens if we lose an engine just after V1). Then figure out the answers and write those down. How do failures affect other systems, operations, etc... Make your own tables and summaries and notes. These are not replacements for the manuals but organizing and writing down material helps your brain retain it.
One trainer I flew with grabbed the maintenance log and found some old entry more or less at random. He said "ok so if this bit is broken, how does it affect us if we have a low viz approach? What about limitations? What about other operational considerations?" It taught me to look at systems from a standpoint of operational considerations, not systems "in a vacuum".
The answers are in the manuals. Learning to find stuff in the manuals is an important skill and the only way to develop it is to practice.