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Why does the 747 not board upper deck passengers from the second level?

Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:15 pm

I have never seen a 747 use its upper doors for boarding. Why is that? Is it considered unnecessary for the small number of upper deck pax compared to the A380?
 
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Re: Why does the 747 not board upper deck passengers from the second level?

Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:16 pm

They're not regular doors, they hinge upwards. Emergency only.
 
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Re: Why does the 747 not board upper deck passengers from the second level?

Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:18 pm

yes and the door isn't designed to allow mating to a jetway. (highly slanted, door opens upwards)
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Re: Why does the 747 not board upper deck passengers from the second level?

Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:34 am

Plus in most cases, it’s a premium cabin with limited seating.

Not worth it
 
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Re: Why does the 747 not board upper deck passengers from the second level?

Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:35 am

As has been pointed out, the doors on the 400/8I are not designed for use as entry doors. While they do open up, there is the slide pack which is in the way. While it can be moved out of the way, it would become problematic to do so just to board a small number of passengers.
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Re: Why does the 747 not board upper deck passengers from the second level?

Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:37 am

The freighter can board its crew through the upper deck door however


Just need a tall set of steps
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Re: Why does the 747 not board upper deck passengers from the second level?

Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:01 pm

Max Q wrote:
The freighter can board its crew through the upper deck door however


Just need a tall set of steps


Incorrect, the upper deck door on the 747 converted freighter is the same as the passenger version. It is used for emergency only.
 
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Re: Why does the 747 not board upper deck passengers from the second level?

Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:44 pm

Flyer732 wrote:
Max Q wrote:
The freighter can board its crew through the upper deck door however


Just need a tall set of steps


Incorrect, the upper deck door on the 747 converted freighter is the same as the passenger version. It is used for emergency only.


I can't speak for the 400 but I used to see a lot of these at NRT alongside JAL 200 freighters. Crews and Food service used to use them to get to the upper deck..

https://www.flickr.com/photos/alan_lord/5740012100

This is actually the 3rd time I've posted this in 3 years..ha
 
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Re: Why does the 747 not board upper deck passengers from the second level?

Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:59 pm

RetiredWeasel wrote:
Flyer732 wrote:
Max Q wrote:
The freighter can board its crew through the upper deck door however


Just need a tall set of steps


Incorrect, the upper deck door on the 747 converted freighter is the same as the passenger version. It is used for emergency only.


I can't speak for the 400 but I used to see a lot of these at NRT alongside JAL 200 freighters. Crews and Food service used to use them to get to the upper deck..

https://www.flickr.com/photos/alan_lord/5740012100

This is actually the 3rd time I've posted this in 3 years..ha


I think there may be confusion of the 747-300/400/8i large passenger emergency door and the much smaller -200/-F door.

The smaller door being used in your pic slides open on rails, the large emergency door opens upwards like a gullwing, I have never heard of it being used for anything other than fresh air while at the gate.

On a converted -400BCF, you would only have the two large emergency doors, not the smaller door found on a new-build F model.
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Re: Why does the 747 not board upper deck passengers from the second level?

Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:53 am

RetiredWeasel wrote:
Flyer732 wrote:
Max Q wrote:
The freighter can board its crew through the upper deck door however


Just need a tall set of steps


Incorrect, the upper deck door on the 747 converted freighter is the same as the passenger version. It is used for emergency only.


I can't speak for the 400 but I used to see a lot of these at NRT alongside JAL 200 freighters. Crews and Food service used to use them to get to the upper deck..

https://www.flickr.com/photos/alan_lord/5740012100

This is actually the 3rd time I've posted this in 3 years..ha



I remember!


Was hoping you would chime in on this.


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