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Cathay Pacific A340-300 HKG-JFK

Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:19 pm

Hi, I remember a long time ago I flew on a Cathay Pacific A340-300 from HKG to JFK. I'm curious as to how long the A343 was used on this route after replacing the A346 and before it itself was replaced by the 77W. HKG-JFK is just barely within the range of the A343 (13,000km distance, 13,500km range), so it doesn't seem as though the A343 is the most sustainable aircraft for the route as anything from heavy loads to headwinds would necessitate a fuel stop. In addition, a quick photo search for "Cathay Pacific A340-300" with JFK set as the location yields only three results, so it seems as though the A343 was a rather temporary deployment. Thoughts?
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Re: Cathay Pacific A340-300 HKG-JFK

Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:10 am

I believe that the CX A343 always did a fuel and crew change stop here in Anchorage.
At least, it did when I worked in the terminal; the CX 343 bird came screaming in all the time, between HKG and NYC.
And the 346 did sometimes, too.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific A340-300 HKG-JFK

Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:46 am

The CX 343 operated HKG - YVR - JFK
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Re: Cathay Pacific A340-300 HKG-JFK

Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:59 am

The A343 also did HKG-ANC-YYZ as well.
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Re: Cathay Pacific A340-300 HKG-JFK

Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:27 am

And hkg-yyz direct
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Re: Cathay Pacific A340-300 HKG-JFK

Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:49 pm

Since the route is polar, HKG-JFK would benefit little from winter winds. Duration is close to equal in both directions.

So any time of year, a nonstop revenue leg HKG-JFK would be very difficult for an A343. I would say not possible?
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific A340-300 HKG-JFK

Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:57 am

The eastbound route is normally not polar, takes you closer to Vancouver to get the best tailwinds.
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Re: Cathay Pacific A340-300 HKG-JFK

Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:09 pm

I believe Cathay Pacific launched nonstop HKG-JFK flights in 2001 in response to Continental launching nonstop EWR-HKG service. They specially equipped 3 A340-300s with only 193 seats and extra legroom to reduce weight so the plane could make it nonstop. They ordered the A340-600s right about time of the launch with A340-300s and those planes replaced them shortly thereafter.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific A340-300 HKG-JFK

Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:41 pm

zeke wrote:
The eastbound route is normally not polar, takes you closer to Vancouver to get the best tailwinds.

There were times we did eastbound that took us polar, took us closer to Anchorage or even as south as over San Francisco.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific A340-300 HKG-JFK

Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:30 am

Via ANC is not polar, polar would be going north of HKG via China/Russia across the pole. ANC/YVR are done normally via the NOPAC routes, sometimes a little further south via the PACOTS routes. Those routes take you NE of HKG via Taiwan and Japan.
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Re: Cathay Pacific A340-300 HKG-JFK

Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:43 am

zeke wrote:
Via ANC is not polar, polar would be going north of HKG via China/Russia across the pole. ANC/YVR are done normally via the NOPAC routes, sometimes a little further south via the PACOTS routes. Those routes take you NE of HKG via Taiwan and Japan.

We did polar and via ANC. Basically, via ANC and polar are separate. Only did polar less than a handful of times however.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific A340-300 HKG-JFK

Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:20 pm

I was only looking at recent flight durations. They are similar both ways right now. Not sure what that proves. Anyway, interesting that Cathay served this route with A343. That is a big achievement for that aircraft.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific A340-300 HKG-JFK

Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:35 pm

Newbiepilot wrote:
I believe Cathay Pacific launched nonstop HKG-JFK flights in 2001 in response to Continental launching nonstop EWR-HKG service. They specially equipped 3 A340-300s with only 193 seats and extra legroom to reduce weight so the plane could make it nonstop. They ordered the A340-600s right about time of the launch with A340-300s and those planes replaced them shortly thereafter.


Although CX initially planned to launch HKG-JFK nonstop in September 2001 with the reconfigured A340-300, I believe the plan got postponed. CX actually ended up starting it on July 1st, 2004 with the A340-600.
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Re: Cathay Pacific A340-300 HKG-JFK

Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:09 am

I remember doing CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK on the A343 way back in 2004 which was around a 1600 departure. The following year flew CX 831 nonstop on the A346. My first Cathay and at the same time, first Airbus experience after years of the 747. Never thought that there was another aircraft capable of taking me from New York - Asia aside from the usual 747.

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