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Some scans of old aero charts

Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:17 pm

Starting with a 1946 New York Local chart-- the scans aren't all perfect, but there's enough overlap so everything is covered on one scan or another. Click on a page and you get a preview-- to see the sharp scan you have to download the page.

https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/ba3 ... 91247888ec

Back of this chart is blank-- wonder if this is a first edition. Note the pencil "sp" notes in the margin, pointing out spelling errors.

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Re: Some scans of old aero charts

Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:25 pm

Thanks for posting -- very cool to see how incredibly different things are now!
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Re: Some scans of old aero charts

Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:22 pm

In 1953 the legend and some airport data was on the back of the chart

https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/bba ... d6f58714c8

Note that La Guardia's radio range has moved to NE of the field-- was SW of it in 1946.

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Los Angeles 1947

https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/ef0 ... 4fb822ee10

(The NOAA website has a 1930s Los Angeles sectional.)
 
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timz wrote:



Thanks Tim! I've been attempting to find an old 1950s Los Angeles Sectional for some time. Looking at the chart I can see LAX had 8,500 feet of runway back then, undoubtably after the Sepulveda underpass was constructed. This chart also shows a fan marker at "La Habra" intersection which is mentioned in a American Airlines video regarding a transcontinental DC-7 flight. It's interesting that ATC was still giving clearances in the mid-fifties using low-frequency airways even after the VORTACs were installed.
 
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Re: Some scans of old aero charts

Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:34 pm

Two sectionals--

LA 1949

https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/713 ... 8b01a654b5

NY 1949

https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/7fa ... 204a1c0c74

Both charts still show some remaining airway beacons. In 1949 the beacon airway out of Los Angeles was via Newhall-- on the 1932 sectional at the NOAA site the LA-Salt Lake airway was via Cajon Pass.
 
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As I recall there were several lighted airways in existence between Dagget and either LAS or BLD as recently as the mid 60's?
 
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Actual "lighted airways"-- long strings of beacons 10-20 miles apart-- were mostly (all?) gone by the middle 1950s. Beacons remained here and there.

It seems airway beacons weren't like the ones at airports-- they had a 1000-watt bulb and a reflector, so the (white?) beam was one-way.
 
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Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:14 pm

No, it seems airway beacons were one-beam originally, but later airway beacons were two-way.

Washington sectional, 1948

https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/b73 ... 3b12d28008
 
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New link for the Denver 1945 sectional, with more overlap in the scans

https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/4d9 ... c59be75c6a
 
 
 
 
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WACs (1:1000000 charts) latitude 44 to 48 degrees, west coast to Michigan, all 1949 or nearly

Columbia River https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/818 ... 0e9c4b6e87

Bitterroot Range https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/0ca ... 952a71d473

Yellowstone River https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/63a ... 2882d02ffa

Lake Itasca https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/1c4 ... 09a4e5b382

Green Bay https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/14b ... 755a2682aa

back side of circa-1949 WAC https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/e62 ... 7b8d47800a (these scans are very pale-- look blank, but they're not)
 
 
 
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These are all amazing, thank you. Fascinating to see how navigation in the 40's and 50's was.
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Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:42 pm

WACs appeared around 1945-- before that the 1:1000000 charts were called Regional Charts.

Western US, 44 to 49 deg latitude, west of 114 deg longitude, 1941 https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/eb0 ... 1537940ea8

Western US, 38 to 44 deg latitude, west of 114 deg longitude, 1941 https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/c25 ... a3677e4a0e
 
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Re: Some scans of old aero charts

Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:56 pm

Very cool, thanks for sharing! Just bought a few of these older charts on ebay covering my local area. I've even managed to find a few of the old locations of the LF radio ranges, some are even still partially intact after all these years. For anyone else interested in older stuff this flickr account has a pile of old approach charts:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/12530375@N08/
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:43 pm

Two more regional charts

Tucson to Woodward 1941 https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/6de ... f83d56c18b

St Louis to Pittsburgh 1944 https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/7be ... 5fd498ea3a
 
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Re: Some scans of old aero charts

Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:43 pm

Three places with some online charts:

https://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/ has a bunch of sectionals from 1932-36: Dallas, Elko, Fargo, Glacier Park, Grand Jct, Los Angeles, Oklahoma City, Roswell, Salina, San Antonio, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, Shreveport, Sioux City, Spokane, Trinidad, Tulsa, Twin Cities, Washington, Wichita, Winston-Salem, Yellowstone Park. Also Burlington 1942 and a few later editions with obstructive overprint, and a 1935 Regional (1:1000000) from Rochester to Washington and Boston.

davidrumsey.com has five 1944-45 sectionals: Prescott, Phoenix, Douglas, Albuquerque, Roswell.

And the Library of Congress scanned hundreds of old sectionals at the top of the alphabet-- they gave out in the middle of Detroit. If you're looking for Des Moines, search for "aeronautical des moines" and a few dozen of them will come right up.

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