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Boeing OPT

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:12 am
by Khaldon
Why please there is a difference between Boeing OPT MAX thrust N1 and actual airplane N1 reading for the same assumed temperature?

Re: Boeing OPT

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:31 pm
by BravoOne
What airplane, what engines? Come on give us a hint at least.

Re: Boeing OPT

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:08 am
by OzzyPirate
Are we talking 737? It's quite common to get a small split between the indicated reference N1 and the N1 generated by the OPT. Normally due to differences in actual ambient conditions vs. the data used for performance calculation.

For example, if we used an OAT of 18C in our calculations but the actual OAT is 15C, the reference N1 will be different for the same assumed temp.

Re: Boeing OPT

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:47 am
by skyhawkmatthew
OzzyPirate wrote:
Are we talking 737? It's quite common to get a small split between the indicated reference N1 and the N1 generated by the OPT. Normally due to differences in actual ambient conditions vs. the data used for performance calculation.

For example, if we used an OAT of 18C in our calculations but the actual OAT is 15C, the reference N1 will be different for the same assumed temp.


This is the only time I've seen a difference between our RTOW data card and the aircraft computed N1 on the 777 as well. It's not unusual for the aircraft's TAT indication to be a couple of degrees different to the ATIS, slightly changing the computed N1 or EPR displayed. As long as it is close to the value on the card, and makes sense, there is no issue.

Re: Boeing OPT

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:43 am
by Khaldon
I am so sorry for the late response,

I am talking about Boeing 777-200 / 777-300

Re: Boeing OPT

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:45 am
by Khaldon
GE engine

Re: Boeing OPT

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:50 am
by BravoOne
Khaldon wrote:
GE engine


Which GE engine?

Re: Boeing OPT

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:51 am
by BravoOne
BravoOne wrote:
Khaldon wrote:
GE engine


Which GE engine? The 115K or?

Re: Boeing OPT

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:32 pm
by mmo
From what I have seen, if the OPT and actual conditions are identical then the N1 is generally within .1%. However, as pointed out previously, if the temps are higher/lower then the N1 will vary. In reality, it doesn't vary that much but it won't be exact either. To be honest, the variation has negligible affect on takeoff performance.

Re: Boeing OPT

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:23 pm
by Khaldon
GE90-115BL engines

Re: Boeing OPT

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:45 pm
by BravoOne
What mmo said would apply.