simjim
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Movie Theater Seats on Airliners?

Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:15 am

Wouldn't it be easier to get in and out of the middle and window seats, if airliners had theater type seating, were the bottom part of the seat pulls up?

The person on the aisle or middle seats would only have stand up by folding the bottom part of their seat, to let a fellow passenger in and out of their row.

What do you think?
 
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Re: Movie Theater Seats on Airliners?

Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:27 am

Might be difficult to get something like that certified for crashworthiness. Seats are required to withstand a 16G force without failing, and a seat bottom that pivots up and out of the way like that may not be able to withstand that, without making it so heavy as to be uneconomical for airlines to use.
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Re: Movie Theater Seats on Airliners?

Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:37 pm

Thank you for your comments Moose135. Maybe there's a seat manufacturer that can make a folding seat, that can withstand a 16G force. With new materials coming along all the time, maybe it can be a possibility in the future.
 
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Re: Movie Theater Seats on Airliners?

Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:10 pm

Would be awkward going thru turbulence in such a seat. Turbulence lifts the butt out of the seat, seat bottom folds, positive G returns butt to seat, however seat is now out of position....
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Re: Movie Theater Seats on Airliners?

Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:06 pm

Having been responsible for maintenance in a theater, let me add that people bounce in theater seats, and those seats break. I have a lot of time to get seats fixed because theaters don't have the same sort of utilization that aircraft.

While the seats could certainly be made to a higher spec than my theater, it's still an additional and probably unnecessary maintenance issue, and I do not looking forward to the brat in the seat next to me bouncing throughout a 5 hour flight.
 
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Re: Movie Theater Seats on Airliners?

Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:52 pm

Moose135 wrote:
Might be difficult to get something like that certified for crashworthiness. Seats are required to withstand a 16G force without failing


In case anyone is interested:

14 CFR 25.561 has static load cases (9 g forward, for example). The 16 g comes into play from 14 CFR 25.562, which added dynamic load cases and specific criteria for injury prevention.

There's some neat background on the difference in passenger protection in the "Resulting Safety Initiatives" section of the AVA052 FAA SLL
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Re: Movie Theater Seats on Airliners?

Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:53 am

They could have a locking mechanism to hold the seat in the lowered position. But yeah, seems like just another item to break.
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Re: Movie Theater Seats on Airliners?

Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:00 pm

Except for the chance of breaking the seat there's also the weight issue. A foldable seat is likely to weigh more than a fixed seat, and weight is very important on an aircraft. Every single detail is made to weigh as little as possible, including the seats. The reason is obvious, the heavier the plane the more fuel it consumes so you want to keep the weight down as much as possible.
 
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Re: Movie Theater Seats on Airliners?

Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:58 pm

simjim wrote:
Wouldn't it be easier to get in and out of the middle and window seats, if airliners had theater type seating, were the bottom part of the seat pulls up?

The person on the aisle or middle seats would only have stand up by folding the bottom part of their seat, to let a fellow passenger in and out of their row.

What do you think?


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