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A330 Fuel Dump Capabilities
Gang - I thought I had read once that A330s do not have the fuel dump capabilities that the A340 does. Checking youtube videos and various photos of A330s, I see that most don't have that fuel dump pipe sticking off the aft wing like an A340 does (I looked at Lufthansa and American A330s). Yet I flew on a Hawaiian A330-200 this week and I see that their A330-200s do have that pipe. Can anyone bring clarity to that.
Re: A330 Fuel Dump Capabilities
The A350 does have fuel dumping capability. I remember during the test campaign suddenly the aircraft was sqwarking 7700. Later there was a post on here from a controller explaining it was due to a fuel dumping test.
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Pretty certain its a customer option on the 330.
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As far as I know, the A333 doesn't have the option, the A332 does, but there's no need if the plane isn't going to be flying the longest sectors.
So the A333:
A332 without:
A332 with:
So the A333:
A332 without:
A332 with:
Re: A330 Fuel Dump Capabilities
Some of the 330s I've flown as a pilot have fuel dumping capabilities, others do not. Either way, like other Airbus I've flown, the A330 is capable of landing, after the QRH 'Overweight Landing' checklist is carried out upto MTOW thus in a lot of cases reducing the need to offload fuel to achieve MLW or lower thus I suppose some operators do not consider the fuel dumping capability as a worthwhile option.
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Re: A330 Fuel Dump Capabilities
It's not required by the regualtions on the 330, but it's an option. Some 332 have it installed, some don't. Not sure if any the 333's have it, as they have no center tank and carry less fuel.
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thepinkmachine wrote:Not sure if any the 333's have it, as they have no center tank and carry less fuel.
The 242t A333 has the centre tank activated.
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Re: A330 Fuel Dump Capabilities
EIDL wrote:The 242t A333 has the centre tank activated.
Yes, they do, didn't want to muddy the waters further
I don't know however if 242T version has the fuel jettison system.
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Jettison is only really necessary if there is a possibility of landing significantly above MLW. The A330 would be borderline; the A340, A350, 747, 777 and A380 it is a requirement.
As mentioned; the overweight landing checklist allows landing well above normal MLW.
As mentioned; the overweight landing checklist allows landing well above normal MLW.
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thepinkmachine wrote:EIDL wrote:The 242t A333 has the centre tank activated.
Yes, they do, didn't want to muddy the waters further
I was on a DL 242T A333 last summer, it did not have the dump pipes, but neither do their A332s.
Consensus seems to be that it's optional on the CWT A330s, and maybe not optional on the non-CWT A333s.
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Re: A330 Fuel Dump Capabilities
The A330-200F does not have center tank available and does not have fuel jettison system installed.
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Airliner777
Re: A330 Fuel Dump Capabilities
I wonder if the 330neos will have it as a capability/ option?
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Well, the A332 has the capability to fly from Hong Kong to Seattle. (Approx. 12 hrs flight) And let say it has an engine emergency after rotation and it needs to land shortly, how is it going to dump so many amount of fuel to ensure the safe landing?
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Cyrusl wrote:Well, the A332 has the capability to fly from Hong Kong to Seattle. (Approx. 12 hrs flight) And let say it has an engine emergency after rotation and it needs to land shortly, how is it going to dump so many amount of fuel to ensure the safe landing?
If Airbus certifies it to land overweight with a supplementary checklist and inspections afterwards, then it would not need a jettison system.
That said, any aircraft could land at MTOW in an extreme emergency like, say, a fire just after takeoff. No way in hell would I fly around dumping fuel when I have an uncontrollable fire on board. Land, blow the tires, damage the gear, but at least have a chance of getting out alive.
The jettison system is nice to have if you have a non-critical reason to turn back, as you can just sort the problem and re-use the plane right away. Not so with an overweight landing.
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77west wrote:If Airbus certifies it to land overweight with a supplementary checklist and inspections afterwards, then it would not need a jettison system.
Maybe some operators need it for enroute terrain clearance in the event of an engine failure.
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Re: A330 Fuel Dump Capabilities
Cyrusl wrote:Well, the A332 has the capability to fly from Hong Kong to Seattle. (Approx. 12 hrs flight) And let say it has an engine emergency after rotation and it needs to land shortly, how is it going to dump so many amount of fuel to ensure the safe landing?
Even though the A330 can fly on one engine, I would say that situation would probably warrant an overweight landing. For something non-critical like a landing gear issue, they could be vectored by ATC to a specified holding fix which they would maintain for whatever time they needed to get the aircraft to the MLW.
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richcam427 wrote:Cyrusl wrote:Well, the A332 has the capability to fly from Hong Kong to Seattle. (Approx. 12 hrs flight) And let say it has an engine emergency after rotation and it needs to land shortly, how is it going to dump so many amount of fuel to ensure the safe landing?
Even though the A330 can fly on one engine, I would say that situation would probably warrant an overweight landing. For something non-critical like a landing gear issue, they could be vectored by ATC to a specified holding fix which they would maintain for whatever time they needed to get the aircraft to the MLW.
I think this is exactly the case happened a few days ago
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ey833#c2365f3
http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/economy/article/2061335/etihad-flight-seeks-emergency-landing-hong-kong
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