European Widebodies 2019

theobcman · Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:39 am

Dear All just looking for some fun flying within Europe on widebodies please ? Apart from the usual ones below all of which I've taken :

BA 777 LHR-MAD - think this is finishing after March/April ?
IB 340/350 MAD-LHR
AY 350/330 HEL-LHR
LA 787 MAD-FRA
TK 777 IST-LHR

Anyone know of any with Ethiopian / Norweigan 787's / Jet2 A330 / Thomas Cook A330 / Hainan / WOW A330 ??

Thanks in advance.

Wynnster8 · Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:47 am

Ethiopian - OSL-ARN

george77300 · Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:47 pm

theobcman wrote:
Dear All just looking for some fun flying within Europe on widebodies please ? Apart from the usual ones below all of which I've taken :

BA 777 LHR-MAD - think this is finishing after March/April ?
IB 340/350 MAD-LHR
AY 350/330 HEL-LHR
LA 787 MAD-FRA
TK 777 IST-LHR

Anyone know of any with Ethiopian / Norweigan 787's / Jet2 A330 / Thomas Cook A330 / Hainan / WOW A330 ??

Thanks in advance.

Hainan have a DUB-EDI flight. 787.

george77300 · Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:49 pm

Also

Air Europa (UX) have MAD-AMS on A330/787. Currently two flights a day some days. Mostly 787 from what I can see.

george77300 · Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:55 pm

theobcman wrote:
BA 777 LHR-MAD - think this is finishing after March/April

Nope. Not as far as I can see. Loaded everyday until 26th October 2019 at least. That will be until the Winter schedule although no doubt it will continue through the Winter just not loaded yet.

george77300 · Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:59 pm

Aer Lingus A330 on the DUB-AGP this summer.

george77300 · Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:02 pm

george77300 wrote:
Aer Lingus A330 on the DUB-AGP this summer.

As for this as EI has no business in Europe you can get the flat beds, international business for just an extra legroom seat cost on ALL economy fares.

george77300 · Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:07 pm

Icelandair operate KEF-(LHR/AMS) and possibly others consistently with 767. Others 757, not wide body, but interesting and rare in Europe.
WOW Air have NO A330 so none with them.
TUI operate 767/787 in Europe to Canaries/Balearics. Not that consistent I don't think. But certainly often.

theobcman · Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:31 pm

george77300 wrote:
george77300 wrote:
Aer Lingus A330 on the DUB-AGP this summer.

As for this as EI has no business in Europe you can get the flat beds, international business for just an extra legroom seat cost on ALL economy fares.

@george77300 - thanks so much for all this info. Will be looking at some of these. Forgot to mention I did the EI DUB-AGP in J cabin - a lovely 2.5 hours it was !

george77300 · Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:37 pm

theobcman wrote:
george77300 wrote:
george77300 wrote:
Aer Lingus A330 on the DUB-AGP this summer.

As for this as EI has no business in Europe you can get the flat beds, international business for just an extra legroom seat cost on ALL economy fares.

@george77300 - thanks so much for all this info. Will be looking at some of these. Forgot to mention I did the EI DUB-AGP in J cabin - a lovely 2.5 hours it was !

Not a problem.

TAP are flying A330 (again with proper J lie flats) at least 1 x weekly on Mondays. LIS-VIE-LIS. I saw this throughout June/July although I'm sure more dates are there to be found.

theobcman · Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:45 pm

Yes TP LIS-VIE - forgot that. Cheers. As a one off I also did the LX 77W ZRH-LHR in J last year.

Did Korean used to have a tag on somewhere ?

bgm · Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:08 pm

TK is flying A330/B77W from IST - AMS / ATH / BCN / TXL / OTP / DUS / FRA / GVA / HEL / KBP / MAD / VKO / MXP / MUC / OSL / CDG / FCO / ARN / VIE / WAW / ZRH

LostLuggage · Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:17 pm

bgm wrote:
TK is flying A330/B77W from IST - AMS / ATH / BCN / TXL / OTP / DUS / FRA / GVA / HEL / KBP / MAD / VKO / MXP / MUC / OSL / CDG / FCO / ARN / VIE / WAW / ZRH

That's some truly impressive capacity considering the narrowbody flights/destinations these are supplementing!

Looks like UX are still sending a mix of A330 and 787 down to TFN and LPA at least once a day. The 787 is great value in J for those with island resident travel discounts.

FlightDT · Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:55 pm

Sichuan fly A330s between PRG and ZRH (and vice versa) on Wednesdays and Saturdays

SRQKEF · Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:57 pm

george77300 wrote:
Icelandair operate KEF-(LHR/AMS) and possibly others consistently with 767. Others 757, not wide body, but interesting and rare in Europe.
WOW Air have NO A330 so none with them.
TUI operate 767/787 in Europe to Canaries/Balearics. Not that consistent I don't think. But certainly often.

Yes, WOW's A330 leaves the fleet next week.

The morning flights to LHR, AMS and CDG are all consistently 767s. Other routes that regularly see it are ARN, CPH and MUC. Last summer they could also be seen on FRA, HEL and OSL.

SRQKEF · Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:05 pm

Someone here mentioned UX, they also operate a mix of A330/787 to AMS and on BCN-MAD.

Does CA have any 5th freedom routes now? I flew them BCN-VIE in 2017 and I know they also used to fly MUC-ATH but stopped recently.

PlymSpotter · Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:12 pm

TUI consistently schedule their B788 and B789s on summer leisure routes across Europe.

Jet2 will lease A330 equipment from AirTranker and operate MAN-ACE/ALC/TFS plus AYT in Turkey.

Condor operate their 767-300s to European destinations, as may Eurowings again this year.

HELyes · Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:23 pm

Finnair is adding widebody flights on short hauls, like LHR gets a daily A330. And BRU got a widebody back.

AY1331/1332 HEL-LHR-HEL, A359, D
AY1337/1338 HEL-LHR-HEL, A330, D, starting 31MAR19

AY1541/1542 HEL-BRU-HEL A330/A359, 36

AY1671/1672 HEL-AGP-HEL, A330, 57, 01MAR19-29MAR19

DXB has A359 twice a week this winter. AY handles DXB as a short haul destination so SH upgrades with points work here too.

AY1961/1962 HEL-DXB-HEL, A350, 57, until 29MAR

VSMUT · Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:44 pm

Air Europa, MAD-CPH and MAD-ARN with the 787 and A330, summer schedule only.

bgm wrote:
TK is flying A330/B77W from IST - AMS / ATH / BCN / TXL / OTP / DUS / FRA / GVA / HEL / KBP / MAD / VKO / MXP / MUC / OSL / CDG / FCO / ARN / VIE / WAW / ZRH

No more A330 to Copenhagen?

A333MSPtoAMS · Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:04 am

VSMUT wrote:
Air Europa, MAD-CPH and MAD-ARN with the 787 and A330, summer schedule only.

bgm wrote:
TK is flying A330/B77W from IST - AMS / ATH / BCN / TXL / OTP / DUS / FRA / GVA / HEL / KBP / MAD / VKO / MXP / MUC / OSL / CDG / FCO / ARN / VIE / WAW / ZRH

No more A330 to Copenhagen?

Air Europa also flies A330 / 787 between MAD-AMS. I looked into doing this route but chose the EDI-DUB with Hainan.

I have found this link to be very informative
http://thefullgull.com/widebody-aircraf ... rope-2018/

debonair · Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:15 am

bgm wrote:
TK is flying A330/B77W from IST - AMS / ATH / BCN / TXL / OTP / DUS / FRA / GVA / HEL / KBP / MAD / VKO / MXP / MUC / OSL / CDG / FCO / ARN / VIE / WAW / ZRH

HAM is missing in the list...

NiallS · Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:07 pm

Edelweiss operate ZRH-PMI with the A343 on Fridays (May to August).

n729pa · Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:30 pm

I wonder if BA or AF will run any training flights on their A350s when they arrive? On past form with their A380s and B787s they have, so fingers crossed.

FlyRow · Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:40 am

n729pa wrote:
I wonder if BA or AF will run any training flights on their A350s when they arrive? On past form with their A380s and B787s they have, so fingers crossed.

I would think they could train on partner Iberia. It's not a new plane for the group and shared training with partners is not a uncommon practice in the aviation world.

debonair · Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:29 am

SMOKING HOT! :hot:

According to this article, SUN EXPRESS will operate selected B747-400 flights op. by WAMOS AIR from
Germany&Switzerland: :drool:

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -may-2019/

george77300 · Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:10 am

n729pa wrote:
I wonder if BA or AF will run any training flights on their A350s when they arrive? On past form with their A380s and B787s they have, so fingers crossed.

Bit late but to answer this as the thread has been posted in again.

Both carriers will.

BA will be operating A350-1000 with the new Club Suites to MAD starting in late-August ish and probably for most of September before the long hauls start in October. Rumours so far are for either BA456 or BA460 and the return. Not likely to be filed into the schedule until June at the absolute earliest but more likely late-July.

AF is definitely doing them too. Likely to LHR like the A380 and B787 had although could go to a number of other too. As for timings, I don't know yet.

Some good opportunities to get some more A359/A35K in Europe on the cheap.

dfpinto · Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:09 pm

This is a bit late already but a few days ago, on the 24th April, TAP had 6 WBs doing European flights. Five A332 and one A343:

CS-TOG TP1354/67 LIS-LHR
CS-TON TP 434/3 LIS-ORY
CS-TOQ TP1272/1 LIS-VIE
CS-TOF TP1274/3 LIS-VIE
CS-TOL TP1356/7 LIS-LHR
CS-TOA TP442/1 LIS-ORY <-- A343

debonair · Mon May 13, 2019 9:30 pm

LUFTHANSA will do A340-300 and -600 :alert:

operations this summer ex FRA to LIS, MUC, VIE, DUB.

On top, FRA will see OS B767/B777 service to VIE. :bigthumbsup:

AirbusA343 · Tue May 14, 2019 9:48 pm

TK also fly A330s to Hamburg, Manchester and Copenhagen on top of the destinations listed above.

debonair · Thu May 16, 2019 10:17 am

NORWEGIAN will lease in B767 capacity ex OSL:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... ce-in-s19/

LX will upgrade ZRH-ATH to B777, and WK ZRH-PRN to A340.

CarbonFibre · Thu May 16, 2019 8:53 pm

debonair wrote:
LUFTHANSA will do A340-300 and -600 operations this summer ex FRA to LIS, MUC, VIE, DUB.

On top, FRA will see OS B767/B777 service to VIE.

I'm hoping to do LCY-DUB RJ85, DUB-FRA A343, FRA-LHR A320. A shame the return to London isn't something exciting..

debonair · Fri May 17, 2019 8:50 am

CarbonFibre wrote:
I'm hoping to do LCY-DUB RJ85, DUB-FRA A343, FRA-LHR A320. A shame the return to London isn't something exciting..

Maybe FRA-MAD LATAM B787 and MAD-LHR IB A330/A340?!

lesfalls · Fri May 17, 2019 8:26 pm

debonair wrote:
CarbonFibre wrote:
I'm hoping to do LCY-DUB RJ85, DUB-FRA A343, FRA-LHR A320. A shame the return to London isn't something exciting..

Maybe FRA-MAD LATAM B787 and MAD-LHR IB A330/A340?!

Or MAD-LHR BA A350 effectivr July 1st.

george77300 · Fri May 17, 2019 10:02 pm

lesfalls wrote:
debonair wrote:
CarbonFibre wrote:
I'm hoping to do LCY-DUB RJ85, DUB-FRA A343, FRA-LHR A320. A shame the return to London isn't something exciting..

Maybe FRA-MAD LATAM B787 and MAD-LHR IB A330/A340?!

Or MAD-LHR BA A350 effectivr July 1st.

Not July 1st for BA A350.

BA are receiving the first mid-July. Likely to MAD from mid-August to mid-September (on either/or BA456/457 & BA460/461) before YYZ and DXB in October.

aerdingus · Sat May 18, 2019 4:53 pm

DUB MAD on ET B789.

debonair · Wed May 29, 2019 7:55 am

After SunExpress B747-400 flights op. by Wamos - AirBelgium will take over with A340-300:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... june-2019/

Eurowings now schedules A330 operations between MUC-DUS.

CarbonFibre · Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:18 am

BA are sending 747s to GLA, MAN & NCL on 25th Aug.

theobcman · Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:12 pm

A lot of great ideas - thanks all ! The A343 flights are very tempting.

Once the BA A351 arrives I will be burning some Avios in J to MAD & reporting on here ! Cheers

OA260 · Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:18 am

aerdingus wrote:
DUB MAD on ET B789.

Highly recommended for anyone wanting to try it. Great flight.

debonair · Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:31 pm

theobcman wrote:
A lot of great ideas - thanks all ! The A343 flights are very tempting.

Once the BA A351 arrives I will be burning some Avios in J to MAD & reporting on here ! Cheers

TAP is believed to schedule A340-300 between LHR-LIS this summer...

n729pa · Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:04 pm

debonair wrote:
theobcman wrote:
A lot of great ideas - thanks all ! The A343 flights are very tempting.

Once the BA A351 arrives I will be burning some Avios in J to MAD & reporting on here ! Cheers

TAP is believed to schedule A340-300 between LHR-LIS this summer...

Do you know when or which flights? I can only find A330s on TP1354 and TP1367 return.

lesfalls · Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:20 pm

OA260 wrote:
aerdingus wrote:
DUB MAD on ET B789.

Highly recommended for anyone wanting to try it. Great flight.

How was you experience on it? Have flown ET a couple of times but really interested in the loads of that flight as I've heard that cargo is mainly generating profit for the flight.

debonair · Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:41 pm

n729pa wrote:
debonair wrote:
theobcman wrote:
A lot of great ideas - thanks all ! The A343 flights are very tempting.

Once the BA A351 arrives I will be burning some Avios in J to MAD & reporting on here ! Cheers

TAP is believed to schedule A340-300 between LHR-LIS this summer...

Do you know when or which flights? I can only find A330s on TP1354 and TP1367 return.

Like Saturday June 29th, TP1354. :airplane:

n729pa · Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:06 pm

debonair wrote:
n729pa wrote:
debonair wrote:

TAP is believed to schedule A340-300 between LHR-LIS this summer...

Do you know when or which flights? I can only find A330s on TP1354 and TP1367 return.

Like Saturday June 29th, TP1354.

Cheers thanks very much I'll give that a look

theobcman · Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:21 pm

n729pa wrote:
debonair wrote:
theobcman wrote:
A lot of great ideas - thanks all ! The A343 flights are very tempting.

Once the BA A351 arrives I will be burning some Avios in J to MAD & reporting on here ! Cheers

TAP is believed to schedule A340-300 between LHR-LIS this summer...

Do you know when or which flights? I can only find A330s on TP1354 and TP1367 return.

TAP A343 was on last weekend. 8th TC-TOA. 9th TC-TOC.

theobcman · Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:22 pm

OA260 wrote:
aerdingus wrote:
DUB MAD on ET B789.

Highly recommended for anyone wanting to try it. Great flight.

Interesting will look at that ! Thanks.

theobcman · Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:25 pm

From a realiable source :

BA have been inquiring with several stations with regards to short haul flights utilizing the A350 and their ability to handle them. This includes Domestic stations. So expect to see more than just MAD for trials.

Apparently, unlike the 787/A380 introduction, the BA pilots have not had the opportunity for familiarization flights before hand with other airlines and so the key goal is an increased number of sectors required for the type.

theobcman · Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:19 am

Not a WB but very much of interest is the EI A321neoLR now bookable around Europe with full long haul cabin. Flat Beds in Business available between DUB-LHR !! A bit pricey but will be looking at this.

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