EChid wrote:I think each case here is unique. Korean's 777s are either necessary refurbishments or new deliveries whereas their A380s are not old enough to need refurbishments nor new enough to have the latest changes (which are doors, afaik, and likely a response to Asiana's decision to have doors on their A380s).
EK probably decided that one of its two fleet types was due for changes and, since the 777 can trial these in a smaller footprint, went with it. A lot of their pre-existing marketing relies on the current F class in the A380 and its somewhat social atmosphere (bar, F seats next to each other, etc.) so maybe they didn't want to mess with that for the time being or felt that there was enough to keep that product unique compared to their competitors.
AF has always struggled with its A380s, and seems racked with indecision about them. Some of the 77Ws are newer, thus the more competitive design, but the answer is once again that the A380s' configuration was probably decided and contracted far in advance and they are just old enough to have the old product but not new enough to get the latest. Given their questions about how to use the A380, they may have lots of questions about how to roll out changes...which is probably the reason for the delay.
Of course, the other fact is that A380s are a relatively small subfleet for most airlines, so less of a concern perhaps in terms of product, but also very expensive to overhaul due to their size. It's not something you want to do just for the sake of having an updated F class.
gsg013 wrote:I am hoping by the time I fly to Italy in May on AF connecting in CDG that the A380 will have new J and or F seats to be on par with the 777-300ER.
EChid wrote:gsg013 wrote:I am hoping by the time I fly to Italy in May on AF connecting in CDG that the A380 will have new J and or F seats to be on par with the 777-300ER.
They will not. The refit process costs something like $40 million per plane, and the latest rumour is that AF may retire their A380s earlier and simply not bother with the refit, given their financial situation and the challenges they've faced utilizing their A380s.
That said, the last official word from AF was that they would start the refit process in late 2019, but that was decided under previous leadership.
flyingclrs727 wrote:The airlines' best customers are business travelers who value getting to their destinations as quickly and directly as possible. They would rather go nonstop to their destinations on a 777 than have to take multiple flights to take an A380.
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