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Forgotten (?) Airlines

Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:51 pm

Was going through an old box of system timetables that I collected over the years and found some for North American airlines I had forgotten even existed - Pennsylvania Airlines, Tennessee Airways, Pilgrim Airlines, Britt Airways, Wright Air Lines, and Altair. Does anyone have any recollections of flying on these carriers?? My favorite is a Southwest schedule dated February 15,1983 - its complete route map shows flights concentrated in Texas, but not extending beyond New Orleans to the east, Kansas City to the north, and San Francisco to the west! How times have changed...
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:03 pm

This isn't exactly in line with what you're looking for, but here is a 'forgotten airline' that's still flying: Island Airways http://www.islandairways.com/ They fly between Beaver Island and Charlevoix in Michigan using Britten-Norman Islanders. It might be fun to take a flight with them to get the feeling of one of those small, obscure local airlines flying tiny planes that seem to be overlooked by even hardcore airline geeks.
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:53 pm

One of the "we're-in-we're-outta-here" airlines to fly into BFL was Air L.A. At first there were just a couple of daily flights, and then for a brief period of time, nearly every flight seemed to fly through BFL. For a very short time, BFL was kind of a hub. And then in a couple of months, they were gone. I have absolutely no memory of the airline's logo, and there are certainly no photos in the database here, and even a Google image search comes up with a USAir logo. Only Wikipedia has information on it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_L.A.
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:54 pm

VLM/Cityjet is heading that way. It used to be big, now it's offspring is a obsecure airline flying out of Maribor of alle places.Even though they seem to have ceased operation, I wouldn't be surprised if the name is used again.
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:57 am

Down inn SE.Asia:
Thailand:
PBAir
Phuket Air
Skystar Airlines
Air Siam
Malaysia:
FlyAsianXpress
Indonesia:
Sempati Air
Bayu Air
Mandala
Merpati Nusantara Airlines
Philippines:
Zest Air
Asian Spirit
Cambodia:
Kampuchea Airlines
Siem Reap Air
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:39 pm

LAP Lineas Aereas Paraguayas.

I remember them flying at the beginning of the 90s on DC10s FRA MAD ASU.
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:33 pm

Eastern Provincial Airways is long gone. I think I flew them around 81 or 82 for my first flight.
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:06 pm

Air Oregon
Cascade
AFS
TransWestern
Colorado Airlines (I think it was called)
Empire (based in Coeur d'Alene, ID)
Sunworld

I have a CO schedule just after they merged with Texas International. The route map shows both airline's routes.
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:26 pm

I can't seem to think of any...
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:18 pm

Muse Air/TranStar. I never flew them as they ceased operations before I was born but my dad had a model of a Muse Air MD-80 when I was a kid. He used to fly them out of Tulsa all the time for work in the 1980s. Southwest acquired them in the mid 80's and phased them out by 1987.

Also, there was an airline called Jet Train that only operated a single DC-9 in the 80's or 90's for a few years. It's almost impossible to find information on this defunct airline.
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:31 pm

KentB27 wrote:
Muse Air/TranStar. I never flew them as they ceased operations before I was born but my dad had a model of a Muse Air MD-80 when I was a kid. He used to fly them out of Tulsa all the time for work in the 1980s. Southwest acquired them in the mid 80's and phased them out by 1987.

Also, there was an airline called Jet Train that only operated a single DC-9 in the 80's or 90's for a few years. It's almost impossible to find information on this defunct airline.


I flew PSA to LAX in 1986 and saw TranStar. I always thought they were painted beautifully! I did a Google search for Jet Train and it looks like there are three pics on this site.
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:57 pm

East West Airlines in India......first private airline in India.....1991 to 1996...small fleet of 737-200s and Fokker F27s
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:04 am

How about Holiday Airlines. They flew into TVL from SJC, OAK, BUR, and LAX with Electras in the early 1970s.

When they went under, Air California and PSA started TVL service with Electras.
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:09 am

I flew Transwestern between SLC and LGU in the early 1980's. They were bought by Horizon I believe but never went back to Logan.

I also flew Royal Hawaiian from Kaanapali to Kona in 1979.
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:11 am

And yes this is my first post after 12 years. I forgot I joined. I do enjoy reading everyone's contributions.
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:27 am

I vaguely remember Jet Train advertising, but they were gone before I got a chance to fly them.
I also recall Interstate Jet, serving SWF to LAS with a stop somewhere.

I flew an early 90's version of SkyBus from EWR-FLL and the return was FLL-SFB-EWR. I had never heard of Sanford before. lol

I flew a Cityjet MD-11 to BRU, I forget if it was EWR or JFK, but I know it was $200 roundtrip and my first trip across the pond.

around the same time I flew with Western Pacific on one of their Mystery Flights. I think that was $200 roundtrip. We ended up being booked into SFO, but COS was fogged in and they diverted their whole connecting bank to DEN and busing pax to COS. It was a madhouse!
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:24 am

spinkid wrote:
I vaguely remember Jet Train advertising, but they were gone before I got a chance to fly them.
I also recall Interstate Jet, serving SWF to LAS with a stop somewhere.

I flew an early 90's version of SkyBus from EWR-FLL and the return was FLL-SFB-EWR. I had never heard of Sanford before. lol

I flew a Cityjet MD-11 to BRU, I forget if it was EWR or JFK, but I know it was $200 roundtrip and my first trip across the pond.

around the same time I flew with Western Pacific on one of their Mystery Flights. I think that was $200 roundtrip. We ended up being booked into SFO, but COS was fogged in and they diverted their whole connecting bank to DEN and busing pax to COS. It was a madhouse!


You probably mean CITYBIRD, not CityJet ...
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:33 am

lonhahn wrote:
And yes this is my first post after 12 years. I forgot I joined. I do enjoy reading everyone's contributions.


So after 12 years you didn't feel like contributing yourself other than making a point of mentioning that you haven't posted in 12 years, very strange to say the least!
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:39 am

masgniw wrote:
I can't seem to think of any...


You must be at least five years old then!

To the OP there are absolutely hundreds and hundreds of airlines from the past with some long forgotten and some still remembered with great affection the list would be absolutely endless.

For my part I will only add one airline.

Long gone and definitely not forgotten is British Caledonian Airways a major British airline that was purchased and merged into British Airways just over thirty years ago in July 1988.
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:02 am

Netherlines was a small dutch airline.
NLM the predecessor of KLM CityHopper
ALM carrier from the Dutch Antilles
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:39 am

Flanker7 wrote:
Netherlines was a small dutch airline.
NLM the predecessor of KLM CityHopper
ALM carrier from the Dutch Antilles


NLM was formed in 1964 as a KLM subsidiary using two F27s leased from the Royal Dutch Air Force to operate domestic flights within the Netherlands.

The addition of the words City Hopper were added in 1968 and the airline received it's first jet aircraft the F28 in 1978 when it started RTM to LHR.

Netherlines which was owned by the Nedlloyd Group flying Saab 340s merged with NLM City Hopper which was a subsidiary of KLM in 1991 to form KLM City Hopper.

ALM was formed on the 01 August 1964 after the conversion of KLM West Indies Division, the airline operated as part of KLM Royal Dutch Airlines but the Antillean Government purchased 96% of the airline in 1971 and it became an Antilles state owned company.

Early in 1991 KLM reinvested in ALM with minor shares but the company eventually fell into difficulties and ceased operations in 2001.

The Dutch aviation scene has always been an interesting one and former airlines also include the following,

Air Holland
KLM Excel
Schreiner Airways
V-Bird

For a rather small country during the mid seventies to mid eighties the Netherlands had quite an active aviation scene with the likes of KLM (A310, B747, DC8, DC9, DC10) NLM (F27, F28) Martinair (A310, B747, DC9, DC10, MD82) Transavia (B707, B737, Caravelle) Netherlines (S340).
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:51 am

FlySSC wrote:
spinkid wrote:
I vaguely remember Jet Train advertising, but they were gone before I got a chance to fly them.


I flew a Cityjet MD-11 to BRU, I forget if it was EWR or JFK, but I know it was $200 roundtrip and my first trip across the pond.

!


You probably mean CITYBIRD, not CityJet ...



Yes, I did. Thanks for the correction.
 
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Re: Forgotten (?) Airlines

Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:11 pm

Dan Air came to mind.
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