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MIflyer12 wrote:The question isn't meaningful because of partner lounge access.
lightmac wrote:Lufthansa runs their own-branded lounges in cites like Dubai, Detroit or Boston even though they only have a single daily flight there (DTW). Popular European cities like Amsterdam or Barcelona do not have one, even though there are no fellow-Star-Alliance carriers based there. What is the logic behind it?
Which airline runs a lot of lounges abroad? I am aware of SAS in Chicago and Newark (I believe these are their only overseas lounges, but they run one at Paris and Helsinki each), SWISS in New York JFK and Chicago or Air Canada in Frankfurt etc.
lightmac wrote:Lufthansa runs their own-branded lounges in cites like Dubai, Detroit or Boston even though they only have a single daily flight there (DTW). Popular European cities like Amsterdam or Barcelona do not have one, even though there are no fellow-Star-Alliance carriers based there. What is the logic behind it?
lightmac wrote:[Lufthansa] Popular European cities like Amsterdam or Barcelona do not have one, even though there are no fellow-Star-Alliance carriers based there. What is the logic behind it?
lightmac wrote:Lufthansa runs their own-branded lounges in cites like Dubai, Detroit or Boston even though they only have a single daily flight there (DTW). Popular European cities like Amsterdam or Barcelona do not have one, even though there are no fellow-Star-Alliance carriers based there. What is the logic behind it?
bevan7 wrote:Emirates has 35
Auckland,Frankfurt, Milan,Bangkok,Glasgow, Munich,Beijing,Hamburg,New York John F. Kennedy,Birmingham,Hong Kong,Paris Charles de Gaulle,Boston,Istanbul, Perth,Brisbane,Johannesburg,Rome,Cairo,Kuala Lumpur,San Francisco,Cape, Town,London Gatwick,Shanghai,Colombo,London Heathrow,Singapore,Delhi,Los Angeles, Sydney,Manchester,Tokio Narita,Düsseldorf, Melbourne,Zürich
Aisak wrote:lightmac wrote:[Lufthansa] Popular European cities like Amsterdam or Barcelona do not have one, even though there are no fellow-Star-Alliance carriers based there. What is the logic behind it?
Easy, the business case scenario is not favourable. In BCN Aena (airport operator) runs 3 lounges:
1- Schengen area - Main departure lounge
2- Schengen area - MAD corridor
3- non-Schengen area
If LH were to set a Business class lounge, I guess it would be Schengen. Then it only could serve Schengen Star alliance flights. While other Star carrier's passengers could use it (should they have Schengen access) it would mean getting out early to go thru passport control.
So no-Schengen Star carriers would still contract the Aena non-Schengen lounge which is better located.
And other carriers as AF, KLM, AZ, AY, BA... would not be keen to pay for a LH-branded lounge if there is something else available.
At the end the business case is quite simple:
1 - Contracting the site to the airport, CapEx on the lounge and OpEx to run it to get: savings on your own passengers + income on other carrier's vistis
2- Contracting the use of a 3rd party lounge for your passengers and pay (likely) per visit.
Which one seems easier to manage?
FlyRow wrote:I expect a Star Lounge in the new A-pier at AMS.
FlyRow wrote:If it's placed in the schengen parts, intercontinental passengers could clear customs and still use the lounge.
FlyRow wrote:A dual lounge would be very weird.
lightmac wrote:Lufthansa runs their own-branded lounges in cites like Dubai, Detroit or Boston even though they only have a single daily flight there (DTW). Popular European cities like Amsterdam or Barcelona do not have one, even though there are no fellow-Star-Alliance carriers based there. What is the logic behind it?
Which airline runs a lot of lounges abroad? I am aware of SAS in Chicago and Newark (I believe these are their only overseas lounges, but they run one at Paris and Helsinki each), SWISS in New York JFK and Chicago or Air Canada in Frankfurt etc.
lightmac wrote:Lufthansa runs their own-branded lounges in cites like Dubai, Detroit or Boston even though they only have a single daily flight there (DTW). Popular European cities like Amsterdam or Barcelona do not have one, even though there are no fellow-Star-Alliance carriers based there. What is the logic behind it?
Which airline runs a lot of lounges abroad? I am aware of SAS in Chicago and Newark (I believe these are their only overseas lounges, but they run one at Paris and Helsinki each), SWISS in New York JFK and Chicago or Air Canada in Frankfurt etc.