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TWA772LR wrote:what is their next big thing?
KLMatSJC wrote:TWA772LR wrote:what is their next big thing?
A tulip on the tail
questions wrote:UA’s Next New Thing?
1. Finish what it has started
- completing all aspects of the Polaris rollout
- energizing and re-engaging the workforce
- improving the passenger experience
2. Fire Scott Kirby
questions wrote:KLMatSJC wrote:TWA772LR wrote:what is their next big thing?
A tulip on the tail
I never understood why they adopted that ugly AT&T globe. If they wanted to take the easy and cheesy route at merger, why not the Continental fuselage with the tulip on the tail?
questions wrote:UA’s Next New Thing?
1. Finish what it has started
- completing all aspects of the Polaris rollout
- energizing and re-engaging the workforce
- improving the passenger experience
2. Fire Scott Kirby
MCIRNO wrote:questions wrote:UA’s Next New Thing?
1. Finish what it has started
- completing all aspects of the Polaris rollout
- energizing and re-engaging the workforce
- improving the passenger experience
2. Fire Scott Kirby
interesting thing on 1C of your list...I was just flying UA this past week for the first time in a while and noticed with their "new and improved boarding system" that their first class and other status passengers boarded third or fourth even though they were in the so-called "Group 1" after a series of families, people needing extra time, etc. I was standing there thinking that if I was spending lots of money flying UA and I'm the first person in the Group 1 line, I'm literally the 35th person to board, it would show how much UA "values" me. I actually saw one of their Group 1 people have to scramble to put her overhead bag three rows away since the massive amount of preboarders loaded the overheads where she was sitting.
I haven't seen this with any other US carrier who boards their first class passengers so 'late'; I would think this would be low-hanging fruit for them to fix. Let their first class and major frequent fliers get on the plane, keep them happy(ier).
That's my $0.02...
TWA772LR wrote:With UA loving the capabilities of the 787, what is their next big thing? They tried the interior of China but that fell flat on it's face with only Chengdu being the sole survivor of that experiment. India expansion has been long rumored with the 787. Is there a chance they could return LAX-HKG with the 787?
I'm not really talking about a new route here or there, im talking about a big focus like their China experiment a few years ago (id also love to learn why it failed).
UA is also expanding quite nicely domestically. Amy new rumors out there?
And then the ever-lingering narrowbody debacle. Ive all but given up on that, but i do smell a launch customer order for the 797.
Thoughts?
questions wrote:UA’s Next New Thing?
1. Finish what it has started
- completing all aspects of the Polaris rollout
- energizing and re-engaging the workforce
- improving the passenger experience
2. Fire Scott Kirby
MCIRNO wrote:interesting thing on 1C of your list...I was just flying UA this past week for the first time in a while and noticed with their "new and improved boarding system" that their first class and other status passengers boarded third or fourth even though they were in the so-called "Group 1" after a series of families, people needing extra time, etc. I was standing there thinking that if I was spending lots of money flying UA and I'm the first person in the Group 1 line, I'm literally the 35th person to board, it would show how much UA "values" me. I actually saw one of their Group 1 people have to scramble to put her overhead bag three rows away since the massive amount of preboarders loaded the overheads where she was sitting.
I haven't seen this with any other US carrier who boards their first class passengers so 'late'; I would think this would be low-hanging fruit for them to fix. Let their first class and major frequent fliers get on the plane, keep them happy(ier).
That's my $0.02...
flyguy84 wrote:MCIRNO wrote:questions wrote:UA’s Next New Thing?
1. Finish what it has started
- completing all aspects of the Polaris rollout
- energizing and re-engaging the workforce
- improving the passenger experience
2. Fire Scott Kirby
interesting thing on 1C of your list...I was just flying UA this past week for the first time in a while and noticed with their "new and improved boarding system" that their first class and other status passengers boarded third or fourth even though they were in the so-called "Group 1" after a series of families, people needing extra time, etc. I was standing there thinking that if I was spending lots of money flying UA and I'm the first person in the Group 1 line, I'm literally the 35th person to board, it would show how much UA "values" me. I actually saw one of their Group 1 people have to scramble to put her overhead bag three rows away since the massive amount of preboarders loaded the overheads where she was sitting.
I haven't seen this with any other US carrier who boards their first class passengers so 'late'; I would think this would be low-hanging fruit for them to fix. Let their first class and major frequent fliers get on the plane, keep them happy(ier).
That's my $0.02...
You do realize that people with small children and those needing extra time pre-board on essentially every airline? This is nothing specific to UA. Pre-boarders are not group 1.
TWA772LR wrote:UA is also expanding quite nicely domestically. Amy new rumors out there?
And then the ever-lingering narrowbody debacle. Ive all but given up on that, but i do smell a launch customer order for the 797.
FlyingSicilian wrote:Global Services per-boards on UA and is their group of top tier flyers. UA also puts its 1K in group 1, which, for example, AA does not have explat in group 1 normally. Upon my AA boarding two days ago, elderly in wheelchairs boarded first, as they did on my AA flight last week. There are normally not that many, if any military. So your only gripe seems to be families with kids under two and where they board?
FlyingSicilian wrote:Global Services per-boards on UA and is their group of top tier flyers. UA also puts its 1K in group 1, which, for example, AA does not have explat in group 1 normally. Upon my AA boarding two days ago, elderly in wheelchairs boarded first, as they did on my AA flight last week. There are normally not that many, if any military. So your only gripe seems to be families with kids under two and where they board?
dmstorm22 wrote:I would actually love to see them try a similar approach with South Asia. They've had good success with EWR-BOM/DEL, and have hubs that could support -DEL flights (SFO, LAX), but maybe even try IAH-DEL, or ORD-DEL, though I know Air India flies some of these routes already.
They can even attempt more secondary India flying. I know CO tossed around a BLR flight for a while, that opportunity still exists from SFO or EWR. I believe either can be run using a B788 - that's the type of route the aircraft was created for. These are huge cities with growing populations of people who can afford to travel (and similarly travel back in the case of US immigrants). They already have some cache in India with teh success of their EWR-India flights.
If any US airline truly wants to defend their anti-ME3 position, overflying them is the best option, and UA is in the best position to give it a true go.
MCIRNO wrote:flyguy84 wrote:MCIRNO wrote:
interesting thing on 1C of your list...I was just flying UA this past week for the first time in a while and noticed with their "new and improved boarding system" that their first class and other status passengers boarded third or fourth even though they were in the so-called "Group 1" after a series of families, people needing extra time, etc. I was standing there thinking that if I was spending lots of money flying UA and I'm the first person in the Group 1 line, I'm literally the 35th person to board, it would show how much UA "values" me. I actually saw one of their Group 1 people have to scramble to put her overhead bag three rows away since the massive amount of preboarders loaded the overheads where she was sitting.
I haven't seen this with any other US carrier who boards their first class passengers so 'late'; I would think this would be low-hanging fruit for them to fix. Let their first class and major frequent fliers get on the plane, keep them happy(ier).
That's my $0.02...
You do realize that people with small children and those needing extra time pre-board on essentially every airline? This is nothing specific to UA. Pre-boarders are not group 1.
I do. At UA they are BEFORE Group 1; other airlines they are AFTER their Group 1/A Boarding etc.
chicawgo wrote:FlyingSicilian wrote:Global Services per-boards on UA and is their group of top tier flyers. UA also puts its 1K in group 1, which, for example, AA does not have explat in group 1 normally. Upon my AA boarding two days ago, elderly in wheelchairs boarded first, as they did on my AA flight last week. There are normally not that many, if any military. So your only gripe seems to be families with kids under two and where they board?
Airlines definitely do not say “with kids under two.” They say “with young children” and I’ve seen families boarding when the children are 12. It’s disgusting.
Nimish wrote:dmstorm22 wrote:I would actually love to see them try a similar approach with South Asia. They've had good success with EWR-BOM/DEL, and have hubs that could support -DEL flights (SFO, LAX), but maybe even try IAH-DEL, or ORD-DEL, though I know Air India flies some of these routes already.
They can even attempt more secondary India flying. I know CO tossed around a BLR flight for a while, that opportunity still exists from SFO or EWR. I believe either can be run using a B788 - that's the type of route the aircraft was created for. These are huge cities with growing populations of people who can afford to travel (and similarly travel back in the case of US immigrants). They already have some cache in India with teh success of their EWR-India flights.
If any US airline truly wants to defend their anti-ME3 position, overflying them is the best option, and UA is in the best position to give it a true go.
To add - their success on the SFO-SIN route hopefully allows them to launch SFO-DEL as well. BLR is too far south to be profitable IMO. Alternate to UA launching SFO-DEL, I'd like to see them get cozy with AI - who are already operating the route. Plus use AI for domestic connections on the India side at BOM/DEL, and UA on the US side for the AI ports.
flyguy84 wrote:MCIRNO wrote:questions wrote:UA’s Next New Thing?
1. Finish what it has started
- completing all aspects of the Polaris rollout
- energizing and re-engaging the workforce
- improving the passenger experience
2. Fire Scott Kirby
interesting thing on 1C of your list...I was just flying UA this past week for the first time in a while and noticed with their "new and improved boarding system" that their first class and other status passengers boarded third or fourth even though they were in the so-called "Group 1" after a series of families, people needing extra time, etc. I was standing there thinking that if I was spending lots of money flying UA and I'm the first person in the Group 1 line, I'm literally the 35th person to board, it would show how much UA "values" me. I actually saw one of their Group 1 people have to scramble to put her overhead bag three rows away since the massive amount of preboarders loaded the overheads where she was sitting.
I haven't seen this with any other US carrier who boards their first class passengers so 'late'; I would think this would be low-hanging fruit for them to fix. Let their first class and major frequent fliers get on the plane, keep them happy(ier).
That's my $0.02...
You do realize that people with small children and those needing extra time pre-board on essentially every airline? This is nothing specific to UA. Pre-boarders are not group 1.
MCIRNO wrote:I do. At UA they are BEFORE Group 1; other airlines they are AFTER their Group 1/A Boarding etc.
Etheereal wrote:So is that reason enough to make the first class ones to have to look around to see where to place their overbin belongings because the other ones used more space than they were allowed?
questions wrote:UA’s Next New Thing?
2. Fire Scott Kirby
STT757 wrote:Adding the second hand A319s and the new 737 Max are definitely helping, but they're not going to get scope relief from the pilots for more large regional jets. They need to order a 100 seater, 88 to be exact, in order to realize their contractual allowance for 76 seat ERJ-175s. They can add 1 new ERJ-175 to express for every 1.25 100 seat mainline. (Cseris, ERJ195E2 etc..) up to 88 mainline and 70 express.
77H wrote:I think UA will continue to focus on US domestic as that’s the stronger of the two market catagories.
One move UA could make that was lightly talked about in another thread last week was jumping into P2P domestic flying. A combo of CS100/300 aircraft would be perfect for such an endeavor.
Depending on how SFO-PPT goes perhaps UA will start connecting a few more dots in the Oceania/South Pacific like NAN, BNE leveraging their strong SFO hub or even LAX.
As for the China “experiment” I imagine it ultimately didn’t pan out as expected due to the influx of CN carriers launching service across the Pacific. It is said that the government actively subsidizes the CN carriers. Hard for UA and the other US carriers to compete head to head with government subsidized carriers.
I think many will agree UA’s next move to get their fleet’s hard and soft products standardized and competitive with competitors. Working on customer service should be the top priority. There are thousands of great UA employees, but the actions of a few have been egregious enough to overshadow a lot of the quality work that have occurred under Munoz’ leadership.
77H
MCIRNO wrote:questions wrote:UA’s Next New Thing?
1. Finish what it has started
- completing all aspects of the Polaris rollout
- energizing and re-engaging the workforce
- improving the passenger experience
2. Fire Scott Kirby
interesting thing on 1C of your list...I was just flying UA this past week for the first time in a while and noticed with their "new and improved boarding system" that their first class and other status passengers boarded third or fourth even though they were in the so-called "Group 1" after a series of families, people needing extra time, etc. I was standing there thinking that if I was spending lots of money flying UA and I'm the first person in the Group 1 line, I'm literally the 35th person to board, it would show how much UA "values" me. I actually saw one of their Group 1 people have to scramble to put her overhead bag three rows away since the massive amount of preboarders loaded the overheads where she was sitting.
I haven't seen this with any other US carrier who boards their first class passengers so 'late'; I would think this would be low-hanging fruit for them to fix. Let their first class and major frequent fliers get on the plane, keep them happy(ier).
That's my $0.02...
TWA772LR wrote:I'm not really talking about a new route here or there, im talking about a big focus like their China experiment a few years ago (id also love to learn why it failed).
GSP psgr wrote:What about going back to Africa from EWR?
EWR-JNB/CPT 787
EWR-DKR-LOS 757
EWR-ACC 763
EWR-CAI 763
EWR-CMN 763
MCIRNO wrote:questions wrote:UA’s Next New Thing?
1. Finish what it has started
- completing all aspects of the Polaris rollout
- energizing and re-engaging the workforce
- improving the passenger experience
2. Fire Scott Kirby
interesting thing on 1C of your list...I was just flying UA this past week for the first time in a while and noticed with their "new and improved boarding system" that their first class and other status passengers boarded third or fourth even though they were in the so-called "Group 1" after a series of families, people needing extra time, etc. I was standing there thinking that if I was spending lots of money flying UA and I'm the first person in the Group 1 line, I'm literally the 35th person to board, it would show how much UA "values" me. I actually saw one of their Group 1 people have to scramble to put her overhead bag three rows away since the massive amount of preboarders loaded the overheads where she was sitting.
I haven't seen this with any other US carrier who boards their first class passengers so 'late'; I would think this would be low-hanging fruit for them to fix. Let their first class and major frequent fliers get on the plane, keep them happy(ier).
That's my $0.02...
GSP psgr wrote:What about going back to Africa from EWR?
EWR-JNB/CPT 787
EWR-DKR-LOS 757
EWR-ACC 763
EWR-CAI 763
EWR-CMN 763
N505fx wrote:77H wrote:
Munoz leadership? ROTFL...Munoz is the core of the problem and furthest thing from a leader....a panderer? yes! a leader....no way.
MCIRNO wrote:questions wrote:UA’s Next New Thing?
1. Finish what it has started
- completing all aspects of the Polaris rollout
- energizing and re-engaging the workforce
- improving the passenger experience
2. Fire Scott Kirby
interesting thing on 1C of your list...I was just flying UA this past week for the first time in a while and noticed with their "new and improved boarding system" that their first class and other status passengers boarded third or fourth even though they were in the so-called "Group 1" after a series of families, people needing extra time, etc. I was standing there thinking that if I was spending lots of money flying UA and I'm the first person in the Group 1 line, I'm literally the 35th person to board, it would show how much UA "values" me. I actually saw one of their Group 1 people have to scramble to put her overhead bag three rows away since the massive amount of preboarders loaded the overheads where she was sitting.
I haven't seen this with any other US carrier who boards their first class passengers so 'late'; I would think this would be low-hanging fruit for them to fix. Let their first class and major frequent fliers get on the plane, keep them happy(ier).
That's my $0.02...
mm320cap wrote:N505fx wrote:77H wrote:
Munoz leadership? ROTFL...Munoz is the core of the problem and furthest thing from a leader....a panderer? yes! a leader....no way.
Oscar is the best thing to happen to this airline in decades. Your opinion of him is based on, what, exactly? Mine is based on 24 years of being a pilot here and about 6 CEO’s
RalXWB wrote:One thing is for sure, UA will buy any plane Boeing offers...
xxcr wrote:MCIRNO wrote:questions wrote:UA’s Next New Thing?
1. Finish what it has started
- completing all aspects of the Polaris rollout
- energizing and re-engaging the workforce
- improving the passenger experience
2. Fire Scott Kirby
interesting thing on 1C of your list...I was just flying UA this past week for the first time in a while and noticed with their "new and improved boarding system" that their first class and other status passengers boarded third or fourth even though they were in the so-called "Group 1" after a series of families, people needing extra time, etc. I was standing there thinking that if I was spending lots of money flying UA and I'm the first person in the Group 1 line, I'm literally the 35th person to board, it would show how much UA "values" me. I actually saw one of their Group 1 people have to scramble to put her overhead bag three rows away since the massive amount of preboarders loaded the overheads where she was sitting.
I haven't seen this with any other US carrier who boards their first class passengers so 'late'; I would think this would be low-hanging fruit for them to fix. Let their first class and major frequent fliers get on the plane, keep them happy(ier).
That's my $0.02...
United will always board families w/children, the elder, military before Global service and group 1! almost all airlines do this. UA values you by giving you Group 1.....just saying. You're making yourself sound like an over entitled passenger who thinks everything revolves around you.
mm320cap wrote:N505fx wrote:77H wrote:
Munoz leadership? ROTFL...Munoz is the core of the problem and furthest thing from a leader....a panderer? yes! a leader....no way.
Oscar is the best thing to happen to this airline in decades. Your opinion of him is based on, what, exactly? Mine is based on 24 years of being a pilot here and about 6 CEO’s
questions wrote:UA’s Next New Thing?
1. Finish what it has started
- completing all aspects of the Polaris rollout
- energizing and re-engaging the workforce
- improving the passenger experience
2. Fire Scott Kirby