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Flying on an A340-500 today

Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:40 am

I think the only two optons are now Azerbaijan or HiFly.
Do HiFly only do 3rd party work? Is there any way of booking an A345 flight this year without going to Baku?
 
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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:32 pm

Unfortunately, I think Baku is going to be your best bet. AZAL seems to utilize this type fairly regularly between Dubai and its home base (the J211/12 rotation). Just flew 4K-AZ86 last week. Experience-wise, no different from any other Airbus widebody flight...but of course, as an avgeek, you're still giddy all the way from takeoff to touchdown. =)
 
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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:33 am

I think the a340-500 has got to be one of the prettiest aircraft. Perfectly proportioned with those engines and all. I know I'm I'm the minority but still... :cloudnine: wish there were more that were built. On par with the reengined KC-135.
 
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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:20 am

tmu101 wrote:
I think the a340-500 has got to be one of the prettiest aircraft. I know I'm I'm the minority but still...

No you're not. I'm 100% with you.
Unfortunately the French folks who created it might have retired and new hired think that the flying cucumber design called A350 is beautiful...
 
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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:55 am

The three remaining passenger A345s are all configured the same way...J36-bar-Y201. The problem for this model is that it’s heavier than a 747.
 
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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:08 am

aemoreira1981 wrote:
The three remaining passenger A345s are all configured the same way...J36-bar-Y201. The problem for this model is that it’s heavier than a 747.


Yeah I know it has some significant deficiencies but still VERY pleasing on the eye. ;-)
 
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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:37 am

I'll be the dissent, I find the A345 to quite possibly be the ugliest thing in the sky. Just has odd proportions. Worse than the 747's hump or the A380's forehead.

Much prefer streamline and symmetric (e.g. 77L, A359, A332)... perfect!
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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:41 am

aemoreira1981 wrote:
The three remaining passenger A345s are all configured the same way...J36-bar-Y201. The problem for this model is that it’s heavier than a 747.

You serious? Where you getting those numbers from, and which 747 versions are you considering?
 
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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:11 am

skipness1E wrote:
I think the only two optons are now Azerbaijan or HiFly.


You could always befriend a Las Vegas Sands exec.
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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:47 am

The AZAL jets are great to fly on, they have a relatively low number of seats onboard, so the legroom is amazing. It's such a shame these jets never really get to stretch their wings into longhaul anymore.
 
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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:45 am

KLMatSJC wrote:

You could always befriend a Las Vegas Sands exec.


That is a pretty hellfire idea, you could even get a ride in their 747SP fleet as well ;)

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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:31 pm

It'll be interesting to see what happens to the ex Turkish VIP example.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... p-a340-500
 
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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:50 pm

aemoreira1981 wrote:
The three remaining passenger A345s are all configured the same way...J36-bar-Y201. The problem for this model is that it’s heavier than a 747.


Umm, no? At least if we compare anything relatively modern variant of 747:

340-500 OEW: 170.4 t (376,000 lb)
747-400 OEW: 187.0 t (412,300 lb)
747-8 OEW: 220.1 t (485,300 lb)

Even the 747-100 is heavier than it. Yes, the short 747SP is lighter than it, but that probably is not what comes to mind when you say 747...
 
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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:54 pm

ojjunior wrote:
tmu101 wrote:
I think the a340-500 has got to be one of the prettiest aircraft. I know I'm I'm the minority but still...

No you're not. I'm 100% with you.
Unfortunately the French folks who created it might have retired and new hired think that the flying cucumber design called A350 is beautiful...


I agree, I love the way the A340-500 looks, my only issue with it is how the center landing gear bogey looks. A bit funky since it tilts in the opposite direction from the L/R main gear. Only a problem in my view with the -500 and -600, the A340-300 MLG with the two wheel center bogey looks fine.

The 707 for the record is also up there on my list of favs...love those single deck quads.
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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:57 pm

CarbonFibre wrote:
It'll be interesting to see what happens to the ex Turkish VIP example.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... p-a340-500


Turkish Airlines was the prior owner. Now it’s the government outright, but Turkish Airlines, likely using pilots from the A330/A340 pool, is the contracted operator.

FlyingAY wrote:
aemoreira1981 wrote:
The three remaining passenger A345s are all configured the same way...J36-bar-Y201. The problem for this model is that it’s heavier than a 747.


Umm, no? At least if we compare anything relatively modern variant of 747:

340-500 OEW: 170.4 t (376,000 lb)
747-400 OEW: 187.0 t (412,300 lb)
747-8 OEW: 220.1 t (485,300 lb)

Even the 747-100 is heavier than it. Yes, the short 747SP is lighter than it, but that probably is not what comes to mind when you say 747...


Look at the MTOW, and remember that the Kingfisher NTUs were higher gross weight examples.
 
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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:26 am

ojjunior wrote:
Unfortunately the French folks who created it might have retired and new hired think that the flying cucumber design called A350 is beautiful...

Why do people always refer to Airbus being a French company? It clearly isn't.

Ownership between Germany and France is equal, Spain has a lesser share. Also, the current CEO is German.
In regards to production shares, it is roughly 40% German, 40% French, 10% Spanish and 10% UK but varies depending on the model. The majority of the A340 fusalge came from Germany btw.

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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:36 am

aemoreira1981 wrote:
FlyingAY wrote:
aemoreira1981 wrote:
The three remaining passenger A345s are all configured the same way...J36-bar-Y201. The problem for this model is that it’s heavier than a 747.


Umm, no? At least if we compare anything relatively modern variant of 747:

340-500 OEW: 170.4 t (376,000 lb)
747-400 OEW: 187.0 t (412,300 lb)
747-8 OEW: 220.1 t (485,300 lb)

Even the 747-100 is heavier than it. Yes, the short 747SP is lighter than it, but that probably is not what comes to mind when you say 747...


Look at the MTOW, and remember that the Kingfisher NTUs were higher gross weight examples.

Still not correct. The A340-500 in the HGW variant goes up to 380t, whereas the 747-400/800 are between 413t to 447t. In addition they are not exactly flying the same mission, so a comparison doesn't make sense really. The A345 HGW is an ULR variant up to 9'000nm, whereas the 747 was designed for regular long-range flying.

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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:07 pm

tmu101 wrote:
I think the a340-500 has got to be one of the prettiest aircraft. Perfectly proportioned with those engines and all. I know I'm I'm the minority but still... :cloudnine: wish there were more that were built. On par with the reengined KC-135.



I also think the A340-500 is a true show-stopper, it is as beautifully proportioned as a 707.
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Re: Flying on an A340-500 today

Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:01 am

quote="PPVLC"]
tmu101 wrote:
I think the a340-500 has got to be one of the prettiest aircraft. Perfectly proportioned with those engines and all. I know I'm I'm the minority but still... :cloudnine: wish there were more that were built. On par with the reengined KC-135.



I also think the A340-500 is a true show-stopper, it is as beautifully proportioned as a 707.[/quote]

Indeed it is. The reengined DC-8 is pretty as well but not as pretty as the reengined 707/KC-135. A345 is the prettiest though.

airxliban wrote:
ojjunior wrote:
tmu101 wrote:
I think the a340-500 has got to be one of the prettiest aircraft. I know I'm I'm the minority but still...

No you're not. I'm 100% with you.
Unfortunately the French folks who created it might have retired and new hired think that the flying cucumber design called A350 is beautiful...


I agree, I love the way the A340-500 looks, my only issue with it is how the center landing gear bogey looks. A bit funky since it tilts in the opposite direction from the L/R main gear. Only a problem in my view with the -500 and -600, the A340-300 MLG with the two wheel center bogey looks fine.

The 707 for the record is also up there on my list of favs...love those single deck quads.
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I think I agree about the center bogey. If it had the A343 center bogey it would be perfect. Nevertheless it is STILL a gorgeous airplane.

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