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Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:07 am

It always fascinates me to see all of the hate on this board, other sites around the internet, and from passengers in general for the CRJ-200?

I must be the rare person that actually doesn't mind them and actually enjoys flying them, at least on routes that are under 1.5 hours.

I do a fair amount of flying into smaller airports and I have no issues with them. I really enjoy the small airport experience, and actually enjoy the places where you still get to board walking out on the ramp to the aircraft. I enjoy the easy boarding/deboarding, plane-side valet, not having to deal with the overhead bin issue, and flying in/out of small uncongested airports.

Anyways just curious if there are others out there who enjoy flying or flying on the CRJ-200.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:11 am

The CRJ-700/900 is better, but yes the CRJs are far more comfortable than what most of A.net would lead you to believe.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:25 am

I think the biggest issue most have with the CR1/CR2/non-NG CR7s is the window placement when you're seated. Unless you're short, you'll have a sore neck after an hour of trying to look out a CR2's window.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:28 am

What we've come to call the baby Js are a bit of a pain to work with to say the least. They're front heavy to the point where unless you have about ~50 total bags in the back, you'll need ballast for most flights. Add a jumpseater to the front and its a few hundred pounds more of sandbags to toss in the aft. And while the cargo hold is somewhat comparable in size to a Q400, the door is stuck underneath the #1 engine which makes loading/unloading more tricky as opposed to the Q's floor to ceiling cargo door. The APU is loud to the point where I'll go out of my way to get a GPU even for medium length/shorter turns. And of course you need a special headset adapter for pushing. If you're over 5'8" its just not a fun plane to work on.

Flying on them isn't horrible, they are quiet enough, but I'm way too big for a plane that small.


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In the winter you can stand near (but not too close!) the APU exhaust to dry off and warm yourself up.

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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:59 am

I love the CRJ200s - total blast to fly one. Wish we had more of them here in Canada.
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:05 am

If you're taller than say... 6 ft, they are PIK (pain in the knees, seat ptich) and PIH (pain in the head. low cabin, have to tilt my head) as a pax. I never fly them, and will reroute to get at CR7 or CR9. Between a CRJ and an ATR or Q, if the end to end time is even close with a prop feeder, I'm on the prop.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:57 am

My main grip with the CRJ is also the low placement of the windows. Luckily I haven't flown on a CRJ in many years. I definitely remember knowing when the gear was lowered because of the loud bang.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:03 am

RJs are the big reason I no longer fly into FWA (as FWA is served by nothing but regional carriers, all using these Barbie jets). They are small, cramped, and lacking in overhead space, thus I call them Barbie jets (as though they were designed for Barbie dolls). Now (since last summer), I just fly nonstop WN DEN-IND (using real airplanes, no RJs) and drive up to Fort Wayne instead of wasting a day with connections through madhouses like ORD and risking delays and cancellations of the onward regional connections to FWA from ORD. At ORD, it's usually the regional flights that get delayed and cancelled first, before the mainline flights do. I've been stuck (even overnight) at ORD too many times. I look for nonstops or as few connections as possible on my trips anymore, and avoid RJs. I avoid ORD too.

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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:54 am

I always found the 1/2 configuration on the 145 to be much nicer than the CRJ200. Not that I'd like to be on either for a super long time though.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:14 am

452QX wrote:
What we've come to call the baby Js are a bit of a pain to work with to say the least. They're front heavy to the point where unless you have about ~50 total bags in the back, you'll need ballast for most flights. Add a jumpseater to the front and its a few hundred pounds more of sandbags to toss in the aft. :-)

How are they front heavy?? They have the engines at the very back!!
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:40 am

AZa346 wrote:
452QX wrote:
What we've come to call the baby Js are a bit of a pain to work with to say the least. They're front heavy to the point where unless you have about ~50 total bags in the back, you'll need ballast for most flights. Add a jumpseater to the front and its a few hundred pounds more of sandbags to toss in the aft. :-)

How are they front heavy?? They have the engines at the very back!!


Keep in mind that somewhere between 60-80% of the seats are forward of the wings, along with the 3 crew members at the very front (4 with a possible jumpseater). Pax weight on a heavy or full flight will easily offset the weight of the engines
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:44 am

The CRJ-series is an absolute abomination in terms of passenger comfort. It's a miserable and cramped experience for anyone above 5,5' - and generally a plane to be avoided like the plague.

Now, the Embraer 170/190 are regional planes I would much rather use as a means of travel, even the ATR-42/72 and the Q400 beat the CRJ in comfort.
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:17 am

My only problem with the CRJs in general is the faded window panes on some older birds. Speaking of airplane windows, the plane to avoid for me is none other than the mighty 787! I absolutely love looking out the window and those e-tint 787 windows can completely ruin the experience for me as they allow the crew to dim the windows whenever and wherever they like.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:21 pm

Beats the hell out of an embraer 135/145 I think. When you live in a small market we get to try all these fun little guys and I'm fine with a CRJ 200. Plus it looks a ton better from the exterior than does the embraer does.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:23 pm

I used to love the CRJ1/2 when I was young, I much prefer the DL CRJ7/9's now, considering I am 6'1'. I usually want a chiropractor after an HPN-DTW flight on one. In terms of regionals I'd choose the 170/175's or a CR9 any day over the CR2/1's. Anyone remember the UAL and NW Avro's? Good times :)
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:36 pm

I personally have mixed feelings about the -200. I especially don't mind them if there's no one seated next to me.

Pros:
"Sporty feel" when flying
Bags are usually gate checked so you don't have to wrangle for overhead space
Occasional boarding via tarmac
Minimal # of passengers

Cons:
Window placement
Curvature of fuselage means my head touches the ceiling when seating by the window
Small seats (or is this just my perception?)
Claustrophobic feel
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:57 pm

SJCMSP wrote:
Cons:
Window placement
Curvature of fuselage means my head touches the ceiling when seating by the window


This is my biggest problem with it. I've learned not to try and look out the window on the 200. But I try to avoid the window seats at all costs because of the curvature of the fuselage. And I'm only 6' tall.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:54 pm

DylanHarvey wrote:
I used to love the CRJ1/2 when I was young, I much prefer the DL CRJ7/9's now, considering I am 6'1'. I usually want a chiropractor after an HPN-DTW flight on one. In terms of regionals I'd choose the 170/175's or a CR9 any day over the CR2/1's. Anyone remember the UAL and NW Avro's? Good times :)


Coincidentally, I used to have an office in Detroit (Livonia), and flew every combination of planes from HPN, SWF, and EWR. The Northwest Avro was fantastic! Incredibly comfortable. The CR2s are awful; I flew one just a few months ago DTW-SWF. They get upset in the lightest turbulence, have no legroom (I’m 6’2”), and a few passengers had to move to the back for balance issues. But I don’t like the E145 either. It’s noisy, and it never seems to have a smooth ride. Oh well, if you want to fly from convenient secondary airports, you can’t really complain!
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:16 pm

I enjoyed the RJ85s, CR2’s are awful now. Never liked the E135/40/45. Flew on one 2+ hours to HPN from ORD.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:59 am

Dominion301 wrote:
I think the biggest issue most have with the CR1/CR2/non-NG CR7s is the window placement when you're seated. Unless you're short, you'll have a sore neck after an hour of trying to look out a CR2's window.


This is exactly how I feel on AA’s 738s. I actually observed on a recent trip that for some reason the window on the 737s is below my shoulder, while that on the CR7 is close to eye level. No idea why, but I sense it is somewhat related to the seat level and size of the cargo hold.

I haven’t flown the CR2, but actually enjoy the CR7.
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:18 am

I remember in the 90’s, when Comair started flying the CRJ-200 out of CVG. It was such a novel experience, like a private jet. It was fast and sleek, and it was a welcome replacement of the props.

But that’s when they were flying on shorter routes, like CVG-DAY/LEX/SDF. Once they replaced mainline rather than prop flights ....
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:06 pm

I have no problems with the CRJ-200's when they are put on truly regional routes. I think DL has done a pretty good job only putting them on shorter and thin routes (AA, not so much). I much rather have a CRJ-200 than no service/prop. The ERJ-135/140/145 are only better when you get on the 1 seat side, otherwise, I rather be on a CRJ-200. Of course the CRJ-700/CRJ-900 are more comfortable aircraft, but I think the hate of CRJ-200's is a little excessive. The CRJ-200's have more legroom than some legacy carriers' mainline aircraft and all LCC's, it is really not that bad. My biggest gripe with the CRJ-200 is the lack of C+, not anything about the structure of the aircraft.
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:36 pm

cvgComair wrote:
My biggest gripe with the CRJ-200 is the lack of C+, not anything about the structure of the aircraft.


You don’t consider the bulkhead to be C+?? Delta does! Haha
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:42 pm

topguncnod wrote:
cvgComair wrote:
My biggest gripe with the CRJ-200 is the lack of C+, not anything about the structure of the aircraft.

You don’t consider the bulkhead to be C+?? Delta does! Haha

Yeah, that doesn’t count :-).
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:57 pm

Yuck, I am too tall for any CRJ...when I have to duck to miss the EXIT sign set into the aisle ceiling, the bird is too small for me. Give me an E-Jet any time! Poor little bird is too small for the jetways too...last time we flew out of TPA we had to walk across a rickety little "gangplank" and I banged my head on the door opening getting onboard too...and I'm only 6 ft tall, or a smidge over.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:03 pm

I actually used to like flying on them when I was younger simply because it was a T-tail and was a nice change from other airliners that had wing-mounted engines. Also got to board via the ramp if we were lucky, that was fun. Comfort wasn't much of a thing for me back then.

Nowadays I have a different view of the CRJ2. Biggest pet peeves of mine are the low/small windows that are always scratched up (seriously, almost every CRJ2 is like this, why??), narrow seats, and having to get your bags checked and indefinitely waiting for them to be returned in the jet bridge at your destination.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:03 am

Absolutely despise these rotten pieces of junk.

As others have said, the windows are almost at knee level (worse than the 737 but not by much), no overhead space, tiny cramped seats. Flies slower than other regional jets. Shitty performance. Also, feels like you're dive bombing when landing as there are no leading edge flaps (the later CRJ models have these). Also, that god-awful bang when the landing gear opens usually gets a shriek or two from pax.

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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:48 pm

I had a nice flight in a CRJ once. It was an empty CRJ-1000, and I was in row 2. Quite nice when you have the entire row for yourself, and up in the front it is very silent too.

Apart from that, I absolutely despise the CRJ family. Way too cramped when there is more than 1 passenger seated on each pair of seats.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:37 pm

I just don't even try to look out the window when flying them as I end up with a very stiff neck. I like the takeoff portion, I agree with up thread about squirrelly landings. I prefer the EMB145 for 50 seaters, except for the horrible airflow noise at cruise
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:41 pm

I despise the CRJ-200, and far prefer the Saab 340, which it largely replaced at NW.

I'm 6'3", and although I'm thin, it's still miserable to sit in a window seat jammed against the wall with only a limited view.

When I complained about the difficulties of looking out the windows of a CRJ to a friend who worked in planning for NW Airlink, he said "you shouldn't look out the window so much". My response, "I wouldn't, if you hired prettier women as flight attendants", ended the conversation.

Even though the Embraer 135/140/145 are narrower, the higher, bigger windows make this aircraft seem less claustrophobic.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:04 am

I doubt the CR2 would be so despised on here had it been kept to its original purpose of replacing props on short regional routes. Instead, they started popping up everywhere. BNA-DEN is just too damn far to be in such a cramped plane, and that is a route UA was running exclusively CR2s for many years with no competition. IIRC there's some on here who remember America West running redeye CR2 flights out of PHX.

They were marketed to the public as a faster, quieter, more comfortable replacement for the J32s, B1900s, Saab 340s etc. Then they immediately became small cramped replacements for F100s and 732s.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:40 am

I don't hate the CRJ, but I'm never upset when I get into something bigger. The CRJ means I get to fly into an airport 10 minutes from my home instead of driving 1hr10mins to another airport or 5hrs to the hub. It's all a trade off and I'm willing to accept it for convenience.
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:33 am

I don't mind them but the few times I've been on them they were on true regional routes to small airports.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:31 pm

The ONLY complaint I have about the CRJ-200 is the window placement. Other than that I have no issues.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:26 pm

I wouldn't say I "like" them, but I don't mind them if I'm actually flying to a small airport, of if it's a fairly short flight. It does start to feel a bit cramped to be on one for a 2+ hour flight, however.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:49 pm

The only thing I like about the CRJ200 is that it was the jet my son flew when he started his airline career. Other than that, I cannot think of one nice thing I can say about them.
 
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:57 pm

I don't hate them... prefer them to the ERJ-145 slightly, but I'll take a Q400 (or even Dash 8-100/-300 up to about an hour flight) over a CRJ-100/-200.
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:43 am

I am not a fan of the CR2 at all. I used to not like the E145 either but after flying on it a lot I began to actually enjoy that plane. I love it when I am able to sit in the in the 1 seat side especially in the first row. When ExpressJet had their branded service I flew ONT/SAN-OMA several times and really didn't mind it. I also did ONT-COS several times and it was not a bad flight. If I have to sit in economy I don't really mind the E145 over a 737 but of course my preference is always going to be to sit in first no matter where I am going.
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:04 am

Hated the CR2 primarily due to the windows. Felt a little claustrophobic on the ERJs, but got over it once I stopped thinking of them as a jet powered Bro. CR7/9 or an E-Jet? That's more my style.
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Re: Am I the only person who likes the CRJ-200?

Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:18 pm

I really don't mind the CR2, its the window placement that bothers me the most. They enable me to fly to and from smaller, more convenient airports where the security line is minimal, and boarding doesn't take that long. It probably helps that I've never been on a CR2 flight longer than 1.5 hours, and my main experience is with DLC OO CR2s which usually seem to be in pretty good shape. I'm 6' tall, and while the pitch is nothing to write home about, its adequate. I can see how people have qualms about 50 seat RJs being used on flights longer than 1.5 hours, but when used for the mission they were intended for, the CR2 is a nice little plane.
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