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Most iconic MD-80 operators

Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:53 am

Hello all,

So as the MD-80 fleets are winding down across the world I started thinking, what are some of the most iconic airlines and liveries for the MD-80 from around the world?

Obviously you have the last big 3. DL, AA and G4... but what about some past carriers? First airline I think of after the previously mentioned is TWA. They were a large MD-80 operator and even took the last one ever built! Any TWA livery is great but the one that stands out is the red Wings of Pride (which thankfully you can still see!)

What are some other Mad Dog operators and liveries that are missed out there?
 
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:16 am

Well it's certainly a matter of opinion, but some of my favorites:



 
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:19 am

SAS I believe was the original operator.
PSA and AirCal, the first two U.S. operators.
In addition to AirCal's West Coast routes, they introduced them to the rest of the U.S. with scheduled charters. One hit two deer taking off from Buffalo, and was laid up for days as nobody in the East had the right parts. When the plane returned to service, it had two deer "kill" stamps under the captain's window. N479AC, IIIRC . Another was the first to land at LGA, and had some issue with the runway footprint or something (gear weight?), and additional flights weren't permitted for a while.
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Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:30 am

Alitalia was the largest operator of the MD80 outside of the US with a total of 90 examples received between the early 80s and 1996. I have flown on them on several occasions. The best flights were on the first rows, so far away from the engines that the only noise was coming from the wind. There used to be two cabin configurations, full economy with 166 seats and mixed J/Y with 133. Then for a while AZ used to sell only economy tickets also for the mixed configurations and you could end up on a business class seat. It was a very comfortable large seat with green upholstery in a 2+2 configuration.
I used to find them boring because I used to see so many of them overfyling my house when I was younger. But now I find them much cooler looking than the ubiquitous 737s and A320s
 
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:30 am

Not sure how many they had but for some reason Alitalia always comes to mind when I think of the MD-80.
 
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:47 am

For me in Germany the MD 80 is most associated with Aero Lloyd.....
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
 
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:44 am

Even though they are pretty small in the big scheme of things, I also have become pretty fond of the Reno Air livery and how it looked on the MD-80!
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:52 am

Among the mentioned companies, Finnair, Iberia, Japan Air System and aeromexico comes into my mind too.
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:54 am

How cone this one wasn't added yet...

 
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:10 pm

One that I miss from the good old days - I used to see them at SJC all the time - Reno Air.
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:15 pm

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
How cone this one wasn't added yet...



You are right. ;)

Historically, the evolution of Austrian Airlines with their DC-9 and MD-80s will always remain an important part of the history of the MD-80. Austrian became not only one of the first operators of the MD-80 but also became one of the first customers for the MD-87 with an initial order for four aircraft. It´s also interesting to note that Austrian´s MD-87s were the only ones with aft galley service doors and two MD-87s were MD-87LR´s for longer flights while three other aircraft delivered in 1990 were MD-87SR´s. The order for four MD-87s and eight from Finnair also kick-started the MD-87 and orders from additional important customers were also secured.

IIRC, from 1972 until 1988, Austrian Airlines operated was "DC-9/MD-80" only - except for other aircraft-types leased from time to time. So, Austrian was one of these airlines who heavily relied on Douglas-products and this greatly affected the evolution in a very positive way.

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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:23 pm

columba wrote:
For me in Germany the MD 80 is most associated with Aero Lloyd.....


Same with me! The MD-83´s and MD-87´s allowed Aero Lloyd to expand their business dramatically and these aircraft shaped the image of Aero Lloyd up until the mid-1990s.

Northwest1988 wrote:
I also have become pretty fond of the Reno Air livery and how it looked on the MD-80!

For MD-80-enthusiasts, Reno Air was a very interesting venture. The addition of five MD-90´s fueled my hopes at the time, that RenoAir could be among the customers for the MD-95 at the time.

Same with Korean Air because they were mentioned as potential customers for the MD-95 (and even MD-90!) to augment they lovely looking MD-80s.

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Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:27 pm

PSA for me....I was fortunate enough to embark on my first MD-81 flight (then known as a DC-9-81) on 12-17-80 F566 registration N924PS routing SJC-OAK-SAN! Takeoff to landing from SJC-OAK was 9 minutes!!!!
 
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:36 pm

My records indicate that the date December 17, 1980 was the inaugural date of MD-81 service at PSA. My flight was in the evening so this a/c likely began its day that morning at PSA headquarters in SAN.
 
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:10 pm

Wingtips56 wrote:
SAS I believe was the original operator.

Not quite, Austrian Airlines was the first operator in 1980.
SAS first got their MD80s from around 1985.

Spanair had a large fleet too.

Most iconic, not sure how you measure that, but SAS MD80s were the most common type in Copenhagen for almost two decades.
I flew on them 100+ times and I miss them dearly. The 2-3 seating was fantastic, and they climbed like rockets on takeoff, especially on the short domestic routes.

This combo certainly is iconic to me.
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Most famous one is probably the AA MD80s.
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Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:28 pm

Alitalia, SAS, Swissair... iconic operators of one of the most iconic bird!
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:35 pm

steman wrote:
Alitalia was the largest operator of the MD80 outside of the US with a total of 90 examples received between the early 80s and 1996. I have flown on them on several occasions. The best flights were on the first rows, so far away from the engines that the only noise was coming from the wind. There used to be two cabin configurations, full economy with 166 seats and mixed J/Y with 133. Then for a while AZ used to sell only economy tickets also for the mixed configurations and you could end up on a business class seat. It was a very comfortable large seat with green upholstery in a 2+2 configuration.
I used to find them boring because I used to see so many of them overfyling my house when I was younger. But now I find them much cooler looking than the ubiquitous 737s and A320s


..nitpicking, I know... they started out with a 156 CY convertible layout, and also had a 172 all Y high density on lots of the domestic birds.

As you say, up front the "Super 80" (as the type was initially known in AZ parlance) was a magic carpet! At the back.. well, not so much! ;-)

The J/Y 133 configuration was great...the large J cabin up front was beautiful.. can't forget those plush, bright green armchairs!
 
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Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:50 pm

Dahlgardo wrote:
Wingtips56 wrote:
SAS I believe was the original operator.

Not quite, Austrian Airlines was the first operator in 1980.
SAS first got their MD80s from around 1985..


It appears that Swissair was the first operator of the MD-80. The first commercial service occured on October 5th, 1980. Austrian Airlines introduced their first MD-81 on October 28th, 1980.
You are right. SAS received their first MD-80 in October 1985 IIRC.

The decision of SAS to order the MD-80 several years later compared to other DC-9-operators was largely based on their evaluation for a PPP (passenger pleasing plane)-concept and their re-organisation during the first half of the 1980s. SAS decided to retain and refurbish their DC-9s, to retire the Airbus A300 and Boeing 747.

In the end, SAS became the second largest MD-80-operator outside of the USA and they operated every civilian Douglas-twin jet except the DC-9-10 and MD-88.

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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:44 pm

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two MD-87s were MD-87LR´s for longer flights while three other aircraft delivered in 1990 were MD-87SR´s.


What routes were they used on ?
 
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:13 pm

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
What routes were they used on ?


Austrian Airlines used their MD-87LR´s on services between Vienna to Iran and Saudi Arabia as well as for charter flights to the Maldives, India, the Canary Islands etc..
The MD-87SR´s replaced their three remaining DC-9-32s in the spring of 1990 on shorter routes. IIRC, the orginal plan called for up to six MD-87s but one of the orders for the MD-87 was changed to a larger MD-83. A second factory-new MD-83 was delivered in 1993 and these seven MD-80s should have been the only MD-80s after the planned introduction of seven Airbus A320s and six A321s from 1995 onwards.

I scanned a brochure of the Austrian Airlines MD-87 and here is the link, if you are interested:

https://www.md-80.com/mcdonnell-douglas-md-80/md-80-betreiber/austrian-md-87/

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Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:35 am

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columba wrote:
For me in Germany the MD 80 is most associated with Aero Lloyd.....


Same with me! The MD-83´s and MD-87´s allowed Aero Lloyd to expand their business dramatically and these aircraft shaped the image of Aero Lloyd up until the mid-1990s.



And here I was, thinking I'm the only one who would always connect Aero Lloyd and the MD-80. Although I never got to fly on them, they did leave an impression seeing them take off every once in a while.
 
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:08 pm

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SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
Austrian Airlines used their MD-87LR´s on services between Vienna to Iran and Saudi Arabia as well as for charter flights to the Maldives, India, the Canary Islands etc..


Wow, the Gulf countries, India and the Maldives... That was quite a stretch for such "little" aircraft, and that, even if with a fuel stop. The Canary Islands are not that surprising, although quite some distance too.

Frankly, very early on I was very fond the MD-80s family. Those long slick fuselages gathering speed for take off or climbing. Always gave me a sense of speed and grace unlike fat Alberts.

Thanks for the brochure's scan. Even if OS's livery was more white than anything else then, it still looks great. I guess the polished belly has something to do with it.
 
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:59 pm

oldannyboy wrote:
Alitalia, SAS, Swissair... iconic operators of one of the most iconic bird!


At LHR absolutely plus Austrian and Finnair
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:55 am

Thanks for the brochure's scan. Even if OS's livery was more white than anything else then, it still looks great. I guess the polished belly has something to do with it.


You´re welcome! The livery was a very clean design and I agree with you. The polished belly were one of the details which generated a pleasing appearance of the aircraft and the very simple but effective livery.

Btw. I think that the MD-80 became "iconic" in those regions where the MD-80 was the main workhorse in her class or/and the biggest aeroplanes in her category during a specific (in many cases longer) time-frame.

The MD-80 was probably not the aircraft making most headlines, but this type had an important impact at several companies and allowed them to do their daily businesses.

BWIA heavily relied on MD-83s for several years with up to nine aircraft at the same time, Air Aruba also operated MD-80s, ALM used three MD-82s for most of their services (even on routes which were not really suited for the MD-80).

The MD-83 played an important role at Avianca Colombia and allowed them to modernize their fleet dramatically with their original batch of eleven aircraft from 1992 onwards. With very few exeptions, South American companies had the image (at that time) to operate old aircraft and the modernization with MD-83s, Boeing 757/767s as well as Fokker 50s really helped Avianca to improve their image and to use these aircraft as effective tools to develop into a commercially successful airline.

And here I was, thinking I'm the only one who would always connect Aero Lloyd and the MD-80. Although I never got to fly on them, they did leave an impression seeing them take off every once in a while.


No, there is a small group of people like you. ;) Despite difficulties in their markets and their unsuccessful attempt to provide domestic and international scheduled services, Aero Lloyd was able to rely heavily on their MD-80s. It appears that the MD-80 allowed Aero Lloyd to survive the most difficult times, like the DC-9/MD-80 helped TWA to weather their financial situation for many years. Another may be, that the MD-80 was a rather rare type used by German companies. The only other noteworthy company were German Wings with their 114-seat MD-83s between 1989 and 1990, providing a Business Class-service on all of their domestic and international flights. Here are some scanned material regarding German Wings:

https://www.md-80.com/mcdonnell-douglas-md-80/md-80-betreiber/german-wings-memorabilia/

The reliability, dependability and efficiency of the MD-80 was a predictable factor for most companies and this ensured them to minimize commercial risks to a minimum. Some smaller companies later went bankrupt, because they were not able to gain enough money to pay the high costs of their newer (more modern) aircraft.

So, who is the most iconic MD-80-operator? It´s difficult to say. I think that the decision of American Airlines to lease 20 MD-82s (+ 13 additional aircraft) and the order for 67 MD-82s + 100 options was a milestone and the Super 80 became "iconic" in the livery of American Airlines with 260 MD-80s (even more after Reno Air/TWA were inherited).

So the individual size of the huge fleets of American Airlines, Delta Air Lines and TWA made the MD-80 a common sight. Same with Alitalia and SAS in Europe and in European countries/regions, where the MD-80 became the "common aircraft" - like in Finland, Spain, Switzerland, Austria, and Scandinavia.

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Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:34 am

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
MD80 wrote:
SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
Austrian Airlines used their MD-87LR´s on services between Vienna to Iran and Saudi Arabia as well as for charter flights to the Maldives, India, the Canary Islands etc..


Wow, the Gulf countries, India and the Maldives... That was quite a stretch for such "little" aircraft, and that, even if with a fuel stop. The Canary Islands are not that surprising, although quite some distance too.

Frankly, very early on I was very fond the MD-80s family. Those long slick fuselages gathering speed for take off or climbing. Always gave me a sense of speed and grace unlike fat Alberts.

Thanks for the brochure's scan. Even if OS's livery was more white than anything else then, it still looks great. I guess the polished belly has something to do with it.


The SK flights from CPH to Tel Aviv were also quite long too....
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:38 am

OlafW wrote:
MD80 wrote:
columba wrote:
For me in Germany the MD 80 is most associated with Aero Lloyd.....


Same with me! The MD-83´s and MD-87´s allowed Aero Lloyd to expand their business dramatically and these aircraft shaped the image of Aero Lloyd up until the mid-1990s.



And here I was, thinking I'm the only one who would always connect Aero Lloyd and the MD-80. Although I never got to fly on them, they did leave an impression seeing them take off every once in a while.


Me too. I do remember the colorful Aero Lloyd MD-83s...they were really good looking birds.
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:39 am

...just checking in to see if anyone remembers Paramount...they were the first UK operator of the MD-80, and they acquired some brand new examples. If I remember correctly they operated some pretty long flights....
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:34 am

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...just checking in to see if anyone remembers Paramount...they were the first UK operator of the MD-80, and they acquired some brand new examples. If I remember correctly they operated some pretty long flights....


Just about remember them but it reminded me of something else.

Transwede. ..I seem to recall them operating MD87s from Stockholm to somewhere in Florida ....Fort Launderdale or Orlando....stopped about 3 times end route.

Ring any bells with anyone?
 
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n729pa wrote:
oldannyboy wrote:
...just checking in to see if anyone remembers Paramount...they were the first UK operator of the MD-80, and they acquired some brand new examples. If I remember correctly they operated some pretty long flights....


Just about remember them but it reminded me of something else.

Transwede. ..I seem to recall them operating MD87s from Stockholm to somewhere in Florida ....Fort Launderdale or Orlando....stopped about 3 times end route.

Ring any bells with anyone?


Indeed! They had a large fleet at some point... The livery was basically the same as the Paramount one, but with different colours (Transwede obviously had blue and yellow!); and yes, they did operate some very loooong flights with those '83s... they probably had two stops en-route, quite likely one in Iceland and one in Bangor..
 
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Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:42 pm

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...just checking in to see if anyone remembers Paramount...they were the first UK operator of the MD-80, and they acquired some brand new examples. If I remember correctly they operated some pretty long flights....


Oh, yes! Four aircraft were operated and each MD-83 had a capacity of 165 seats. Paramount used their MD-83 to India and The Gambia IIRC. I don´t know the offical reason, why Paramount Airways and Transwede (with their 161-seat MD-83 and 132-seat MD-87s) shared basically the same livery. Nevertheless, the UK was a very difficult market for the MD-80. The majority of charter operators operated smaller or larger aircraft (excluding Dan-Air). So, a 130-seat Boeing 737-200or 235-seat Boeing 757 was seen as a better solution during the second half of the 1980s.

The CEO of Paramount Airways once claimed:

"The MD-83 has the comfort, efficiency, and proven advanced technology to see us into the 1990s. We're delighted with the aircraft and we know our customers will be as well."

Sadly, Paramount Airways encountered financial problems in 1989. I think that some of the pilots of Paramount Airways and British Island Airways later became pilots at Airtours International and their eight MD-83s.

Me too. I do remember the colorful Aero Lloyd MD-83s...they were really good looking birds.


I think, that the classic livery of Aero Lloyd (introduced with their first MD-83) perfectly suited the design of the MD-80. The mentioned livery was ideal for aircraft designs with T-tails and a relatively long fuselages or sufficient space between the front section and the wings. Same with the original livery of Airtours International - it was perfect for the MD-83.

So, for Aero Lloyd the MD-80 was a new chapter and this iconic type shaped the visual image and operational reality in a very strong way.

Personally, I also like "original" operators (who introduced their MD-80s when McDonnell Douglas was still in business). For example, Far Eastern Air Transport sometimes appears like an airline with MD-80s from a faded era with their cheatlines and their "old-style"-look (which I really appreciate).

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oldannyboy wrote:
...just checking in to see if anyone remembers Paramount...they were the first UK operator of the MD-80, and they acquired some brand new examples. If I remember correctly they operated some pretty long flights....


Oh, yes! Four aircraft were operated and each MD-83 had a capacity of 165 seats. Paramount used their MD-83 to India and The Gambia IIRC. I don´t know the offical reason, why Paramount Airways and Transwede (with their 161-seat MD-83 and 132-seat MD-87s) shared basically the same livery. Nevertheless, the UK was a very difficult market for the MD-80. The majority of charter operators operated smaller or larger aircraft (excluding Dan-Air). So, a 130-seat Boeing 737-200or 235-seat Boeing 757 was seen as a better solution during the second half of the 1980s.

The CEO of Paramount Airways once claimed:

"The MD-83 has the comfort, efficiency, and proven advanced technology to see us into the 1990s. We're delighted with the aircraft and we know our customers will be as well."

Sadly, Paramount Airways encountered financial problems in 1989. I think that some of the pilots of Paramount Airways and British Island Airways later became pilots at Airtours International and their eight MD-83s.

Me too. I do remember the colorful Aero Lloyd MD-83s...they were really good looking birds.


I think, that the classic livery of Aero Lloyd (introduced with their first MD-83) perfectly suited the design of the MD-80. The mentioned livery was ideal for aircraft designs with T-tails and a relatively long fuselages or sufficient space between the front section and the wings. Same with the original livery of Airtours International - it was perfect for the MD-83.

So, for Aero Lloyd the MD-80 was a new chapter and this iconic type shaped the visual image and operational reality in a very strong way.

Personally, I also like "original" operators (who introduced their MD-80s when McDonnell Douglas was still in business). For example, Far Eastern Air Transport sometimes appears like an airline with MD-80s from a faded era with their cheatlines and their "old-style"-look (which I really appreciate).

Regards


Wow.. so many memories... I guess it's good being a not-so-young enthusiast then! we have at least the benefit of having seen some really nice aircrafts in pre-standardization times... ;-) ;-)

On a side note... you made me remember the MD-80s of BIA, British Island Airways... in the summer of '89 I flew a return journey on them (lovely friendly crews and hot meals!): outbound on a 1968-vintage Bac 1-11-510 with a floral interior in orange red and purple, and inbound with a spanking new MD-83 with leather seats... back then I thought the contrast could not have been any greater! I was even invited both times in the cockpit, and spent a great deal of my 1-11 flight seated on the jump seat, talking about aircraft porn with the two pilots!
 
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How could we forget DL now they they operate ~1/3rd of the remaining MD-80's in active service.

AA because they had such a huge fleet at one point, weren't they at like 300+ frames at one point? It was surreal to fly into DFW a few months back and there being so few MD-80's versus 5+ years back.
 
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Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:25 pm

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AA because they had such a huge fleet at one point, weren't they at like 300+ frames at one point? It was surreal to fly into DFW a few months back and there being so few MD-80's versus 5+ years back.


They were at ~360ish after the TWA acquisition and before they started retiring MD80s. They got rid of a tranche of TW’s oldest aircraft, which were also the oldest in the combined fleet, around late 2003 or so when they drew down the former TW ops dramatically(especially STL), but the vast majority of them soldiered on until at least 2006/2007 when the retirements began to pick up. It’s fairly amazing to consider it took AA over a decade of steady retirements to finally eliminate the fleet.
 
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How could we forget DL now they they operate ~1/3rd of the remaining MD-80's in active service.


We haven´t ;)

So, the histories and sizes clearly show that American Airlines and Delta could be described as "iconic MD-80-operators". The initial deal between McDonnell Douglas and American Airlines for 20 MD-82s kick-started the allegiance between AA and the MD-80, supported by an follow-on lease for 13 aircraft (with different terms), topped by the (separate) huge order for 67 MD-80s + 100 options + the inherited fleets through acquisitions.

It also helped to gain more interest from other airlines who wanted to update their fleets. Agreements with Finnair, Alitalia and TWA during the same time-period also resulted into very loyal operators and in the case of Alitalia and TWA itno very big operators.

Delta´s evaluation during the first half of the 1980s and their decision to order the MD-80 is - historically reviewed - also very important. It is also a nice "touch" that Delta still operates three generations of twin-engined civilian McDonnell Douglas-aircraft (the MD-88, MD-90, and Boeing 717).

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Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:45 pm

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How could we forget DL now they they operate ~1/3rd of the remaining MD-80's in active service.


Delta´s evaluation during the first half of the 1980s and their decision to order the MD-80 is - historically reviewed - also very important. It is also a nice "touch" that Delta still operates three generations of twin-engined civilian McDonnell Douglas-aircraft (the MD-88, MD-90, and Boeing 717).


Did DL have any of the 717's in the fleet yet when the DC9's were retired? If so they had 4 gens all at once.
 
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:08 am

Yes, DL did have the 717 along with DC-9 service. I flew an ATL-CLE turn on Nov. 03, 2013 on N990AT.

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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:37 pm

A historic day for Delta, as four McDonnell Douglas types in the fleet at the same time. Pictured here with N935AT (B-717) is N775NC (DC-9), N905 DL (Delta's first MD-88) and N951DN Delta's last and 65th MD-90.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Delta-Ai ... /2338783/L
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:01 am

The ones that immediately come up in my mind when I think about the MD80:



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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:55 am

In the western US, we had some great MD-80 operators. Earlier posts mentioned Reno Air, Air Cal and PSA, but we also had regional carriers such as Hawaiian Airlines, Muse Air (they made "flying beautiful", since an MD-80 was very beautiful for the 1980's), Muse's successor TranStar, Frontier, Ozark and Republic Airlines. Also, even though it's only a DC-9, I still fondly remember watching the Sunworld DC-9's flying out of ONT on their routes to LAS.













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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:03 am

The classic livery of Hawaiian Air is really a masterpiece!
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:59 am

SAS operated:

* 42 McDonnell Douglas MD-81 1985-2010

* 31 McDonnell Douglas MD-82 1985-2013

* 2 McDonnell Douglas MD-83 1988-2005

* 18 McDonnell Douglas MD-87 1988-2012

* 8 McDonnell Douglas MD-90-30 1996-2008



Needless to say, SAS also operated DC-9 series:

* 5 Douglas DC-9-32 1967-1968

* 4 Douglas DC-9-51 1983-1990

* 10 McDonnell Douglas DC-9-21 1968-2000

* 2 McDonnell Douglas DC-9-33F 1969-1988

* 49 McDonnell Douglas DC-9-41 1968-2002
 
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:10 pm

Nice that you mentioned SAS.

SAS will probably always have a special place in the history of the DC-9/MD-80/-90. Interestingly and known to most of you, McDonnell Douglas developed two variants of the mentioned DC-9-versions at the request of SAS:

The DC-9-21 and the DC-9-41.

The original requirement by SAS for the variant DC-9-21 was ironically in most cases not longer needed, when the DC-9-21s were introduced. Most Norwegian airports in question were updated by then. In the 1980s, the DC-9-21 became some kind of a „big regioal jet“ with 75 seats, after SAS decided to retain their DC-9s. No additional customer ordered factory-ew DC-9-20s. However, TAT of France was so impressed with the leased DC-9-21s and the airline was interested to purchase them from SAS. SAS decided not to sell them.

The DC-9-41 allowed SAS to cover domestic and international routes with the slightly stretched DC-9 and during most of the time, SAS operated their DC-9-40s in two different seating configurations, one roughly for international services and one with higer density seating and for Scandinavian domestic flights. The DC-9-40 attracted a second customer with Toa Domestic Airlines (TDA) from Japan with a total of 22 airplanes. The DC-9 were used in a high density 128-seat configuration.

TDA also became an early customer for the MD-81 and MD-87, thus becoming a very profilic operator of these types in the very important Japanese market. From 1988 onwards, TDA was re-named JAS Japan Air System and the airline also became an early customer for the MD-90, with an initial order for ten aircraft, later increased to 16 with an additional option for a 17th MD-90 (ntu).

In combination with the Airbus A300, the MD-80/-90 and DC-9 became iconic as the main workhorse of TDA/JAS for so many years. Interestingly, the deliveries of the 26 MD-81s occured between 1981 and 1994, over a period of 13 years and the last factory-new MD-81 was delivered to JAS in mid-1994! It´s also noteworthy, that the „rainbow“-livery of the MD-80s differed from the livery on their A300s. The cheatline on the MDs were „pointed“ towards the front section and only three different shades of colours were used, compared to four on the A300s and DC-10s.

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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:43 pm

Gone but not forgotten:

SAS MD80 Tribute with Low Pass!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wuY8lhHzHs
 
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Re: Most iconic MD-80 operators

Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:45 pm

:cloudnine:

Fantastic to see the classic livery of SAS on their Douglas jetliners!
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