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727LOVER
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Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:36 pm

I'm particularly interested in ALL AT ONCE...but at separate times works also.
I'm thinking AA, AS...and now finally, WN

Any others?

Western?
Air Cal?
PSA?
Air West?
West Coast?
Jet America?
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:58 pm

AA - big time!
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:58 pm

727LOVER wrote:
I'm particularly interested in ALL AT ONCE...but at separate times works also.
I'm thinking AA, AS...and now finally, WN

Any others?

Western?
Air Cal?
PSA?
Air West?
West Coast?
Jet America?


I think around 88 to 92
TWA
DELTA post western merger
Continental
America airlines
United

Flyguy
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:10 pm

wnflyguy wrote:

I think around 88 to 92
TWA
DELTA post western merger
Continental
America airlines
United

Flyguy


America airlines
Are you saying American Airlines or America West Airlines?

DELTA post western merger
I just want to get this clarified. It was NOT Western themselves....but more like Western had some and Delta had some...and together (post-merger)....they had all. Is that what you're saying? :bouncy:
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:14 pm

I'm fairly certain that America West served all 5.
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:16 pm

American certainly did--all from DFW.

Don't know UA's history at LGB but they did serve early 1980s. I'm sure they served all 5 at once.
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:01 pm

US Air was still operating to all five at least thru Dec 1989.
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:33 pm

American, Delta, and Southwest all currently serve all 5 LA basin airports (LAX, BUR, LGB, SNA, and ONT).
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:38 pm

PSA did
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:53 pm

AS currently doesn't serve all 5, but they did serve all 5 for 5-10 years, ending in 2011 when they pulled out of LGB.
 
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Re: Airlines at all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:33 am

jplatts wrote:
American, Delta, and Southwest all currently serve all 5 LA basin airports (LAX, BUR, LGB, SNA, and ONT).

Guess he means Southwest, and American or its partner, and Delta or its partner.

If the original post was asking about the airline itself, not including partners-- which airlines served all five at one time? Southwest, maybe American ... anyone else?
Last edited by timz on Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
 
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Re: Airlines at all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:48 am

timz wrote:
If the original post was asking about the airline itself, not including partners-- how many airlines have served all five at one time? Southwest and ... anyone else?


If by "not including partners," you mean excluding regional carriers flying for the mainline carrier, AA would definitely qualify - having scheduled mainline aircraft into all five L.A. Basin airports in the past.

AA ended mainline on DFW-LGB in March 2006 when Wright Repeal Part 1 went into effect, and ended mainline on DFW-BUR in February 2012 after filing for bankruptcy. Both routes operated continuously for years, along with multiple other AA routes over the years in and out of both airports. These days, obviously, AA mainline no longer operates at either airport, but American Eagle still flies to both from PHX. And among the other three regional airports, AA has also obviously been flying mainline to LAX, ONT and SNA for decades as well - including being one of the longest continuously-operating carriers at LAX.
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:06 am

I grew up in the area, that is all I have to go on. PSA, maybe, AirCal probably, (Hughes) AirWest probably, Western maybe. After the merger storm of the 80's... Republic, AA, Delta, USAir?
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:27 am

If you want to expand the definition to include the entire Combined Statistical Area, which includes PSP, then currently AA and DL serve all six airports (including regionals), as WN doesn't serve PSP. Although PSP is probably only in the CSA because CSAs are defined at the county level, and Riverside County happens to be a very physically large county. (Same reason that the Los Angeles and Las Vegas CSAs are technically adjacent, as San Bernardino County extends all the way to the Nevada Border, just as Clark County extends all the way to the California border.)

Anyway, as far as I can tell, during the regulation era nobody served all six of the airports, or even all five excluding PSP. It looks like nobody at that time simultaneously served SNA and LGB. In the mid-1970s LGB was only minor airlines that went to the Catalinas, plus PSA, but PSA did not serve SNA.

By the February 1985 OAG, AA served all six including PSP, while PSA served all five excluding PSP.
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:22 am

Jet America never served LAX.

Growing up in LA, PSP would not be considered LA basin by any means.

Would think PS, OC, AA, HP, AS, TW, CO & UA ;then DL & US after the merger. There might get have been a brief period that the original Stateswest might've served all 5, not sure if the LAX service later overlapped before the outlying cities were discontinued with the Shorts 360.

More recently, talking mainline, thinking WN only & if not, DL & AA do.
 
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Re: Airlines at all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:32 am

timz wrote:
jplatts wrote:
American, Delta, and Southwest all currently serve all 5 LA basin airports (LAX, BUR, LGB, SNA, and ONT).

Guess he means Southwest, and American or its partner, and Delta or its partner.

If the original post was asking about the airline itself, not including partners-- which airlines served all five at one time? Southwest, maybe American ... anyone else?


Sure, America West (and its successor companies) did and/or do serve all 5 from PHX pretty much continuously.
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:41 am

717atOGG wrote:
AS currently doesn't serve all 5, but they did serve all 5 for 5-10 years, ending in 2011 when they pulled out of LGB.


Longer than that; AS was already serving all five LA area airports back when I started with them in 1992.
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:45 am

PSA, maybe, AirCal probably, (Hughes) AirWest probably, Western maybe.

I don't recall either Air Cal(ifornia) or (Hughes) Airwest having served LGB.
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:50 am

AirCal did, it was a through flight ORD SNA LGB SJC on a 733 if I remember correctly.
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:02 am

Do you remember the date(s) on the AirCal flight? They didn't start serving LAX until the late 70s or early 80s (same as PSA with regard to SNA).
 
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Re: Airlines at all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:07 am

Flighty wrote:
timz wrote:
jplatts wrote:
American, Delta, and Southwest all currently serve all 5 LA basin airports (LAX, BUR, LGB, SNA, and ONT).

Guess he means Southwest, and American or its partner, and Delta or its partner.

If the original post was asking about the airline itself, not including partners-- which airlines served all five at one time? Southwest, maybe American ... anyone else?


Sure, America West (and its successor companies) did and do serve all 5 from PHX pretty much continuously.

Edit: if you mean by "partners," regional airlines are all excluded, I think HP probably served them all mainline, possible exception of LGB but probably all of them.
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:30 am

MakeMinesLAX wrote:
Do you remember the date(s) on the AirCal flight? They didn't start serving LAX until the late 70s or early 80s (same as PSA with regard to SNA).


May 1987, subject to govt approval, OC2094 was the westbound to north flight, OC2097 was the southbound to Chicago flight.
 
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Re: Airlines at all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:17 pm

In April 1988 AA, UA, TW, DL, HP, PS and AS jets flew to all five.

In Aug 1989, CO and US. In 1969, Air West.

I'm guessing never Western or RC/NW, or pre-1987 DL.
 
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Re: Airlines at all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:44 pm

timz wrote:
In April 1988 AA, UA, TW, DL, HP, PS and AS jets flew to all five.

In Aug 1989, CO and US. In 1969, Air West.

I'm guessing never Western or RC/NW, or pre-1987 DL.


I'm surprised all of those could fit into the terminals & ramp of BUR & LGB....and SNA if it was still the old terminal
 
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Re: Airlines at all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:49 pm

timz wrote:
In April 1988 AA, UA, TW, DL, HP, PS and AS jets flew to all five.

In Aug 1989, CO and US. In 1969, Air West.

I'm guessing never Western or RC/NW, or pre-1987 DL.


I'm pretty sure WA did serve all 5 airports at one time.

I didn't realize that TW served LGB or BUR though.
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:56 pm

In the Late 80's early 90's LGB had a growth frenzy.
PSA,UNITED,AA,HP,DL,TWA,AS,AIRCAL,JET America and Western.
Then after the mergers and early 90's economic slowdown the fenzy slowdown and LGB dropped to AA,USAIR,UNITED,HP and Alaska.

Even TWExpress,American Eagle, Skywest, AmericaWest express and QWest filled the 25 commuter slots.

But during the late 80's the majority of the Airlines serviced all 5 airports.

But thankfully USair killed PSA and AA killed AirCal and opened the door for WN to take over the west.

And now they finally serve all 5 airports.

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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:00 pm

flyboy7974 wrote:
Jet America never served LAX.

Growing up in LA, PSP would not be considered LA basin by any means.

Would think PS, OC, AA, HP, AS, TW, CO & UA ;then DL & US after the merger. There might get have been a brief period that the original Stateswest might've served all 5, not sure if the LAX service later overlapped before the outlying cities were discontinued with the Shorts 360.

More recently, talking mainline, thinking WN only & if not, DL & AA do.


Jet America severed LAX in the final 6 months before being completely merged with Alaska.
At that time they pulled almost everything from LGB relocated flights to SNA and LAX.

( edited so A.net spelling police don't have a meltdown)

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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:20 pm

the all time winner would be Golden West, they even served Van Nuys, Oxnard, Pomona, Riverside, and Catalina Island.
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:58 pm

JetBlue has served all five at one time or another; they now serve LAX, SNA, BUR, and LGB; they served ONT until 2008.
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:04 pm

ridgid727 wrote:
the all time winner would be Golden West, they even served Van Nuys, Oxnard, Pomona, Riverside, and Catalina Island.


None of those are in the LA basin. In fact neither is ONT or BUR.
 
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Re: Airlines at all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:08 pm

BoeingGuy wrote:
I'm pretty sure WA did serve all 5 airports at one time.

At the same time, you mean? WA started SNA in October 1980-- right? When did they fly to LGB after that?
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:01 pm

masgniw wrote:
ridgid727 wrote:
the all time winner would be Golden West, they even served Van Nuys, Oxnard, Pomona, Riverside, and Catalina Island.


None of those are in the LA basin. In fact neither is ONT or BUR.


Im sure any airport that had commercial service in what is considered "the LA Basin" was served by Golden West. and their otters.
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:18 am

JetBlue doesn't serve SNA.

What service did Jet America have to LAX? None of my timetables show LAX up until the AS merger when even AS code share flights were added to their schedule.
 
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Re: SI at all 5 LA-basin airports

Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:13 pm

Don't see any Jet America flights at LAX in 2/87 or 8/87-- just LGB and SNA.
 
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Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:54 pm

727LOVER wrote:
I'm particularly interested in ALL AT ONCE...but at separate times works also.
I'm thinking AA, AS...and now finally, WN

Any others?

Western?
Air Cal?
PSA?
Air West?
West Coast?
Jet America?

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