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VSMUT
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E-jet single engine taxi?

Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:48 pm

I've noticed on a few flights with HOP! on the Embraer E-170 that it is as if they start the second engine during the taxi to the runway. Is the E-170 capable of single engine taxi, or is it just some other system winding up? I have never heard of single engine taxi on any other types of jet, nor have I ever experienced it on other E-jet variants. Is it variant specific?
 
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Re: E-jet single engine taxi?

Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:12 pm

Nope, it's used on basically every type. Off the top of my head, Southwest is known to do this with their 737s, which was attributed to fuel savings (though I believe there's some controversy of whether or not it works and if it contributes to premature engine wear).

I can't speak to the prevalence of this behavior, but it's not particularly rare.
 
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Re: E-jet single engine taxi?

Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:32 am

Yup, I fly Southwest regularly and it isn't unusual for either a late start or an early shutdown of one engine before takeoff/after landing. I would say it happens perhaps 20% of the time.
 
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Re: E-jet single engine taxi?

Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:46 pm

Where I fly, it is SOP to taxi on one engine when possible, on A320 series and E190/175 aircraft.

There are a lot of reasons why single engine taxying is not feasible, so it is not 100%. The last statistics I recall reading indicated about 60% single engine taxi from gate to runway for take-off and about 85% on taxi in after landing.

The fuel savings are impressive.
 
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Re: E-jet single engine taxi?

Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:59 pm

That's quite interesting. I haven't experienced it on any type or airline apart from the HOP! E-170s. Even ATR discourages single engine taxi these days in its standard procedures.
 
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Re: E-jet single engine taxi?

Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:08 pm

And if you're going to shut down an engine to save fuel make sure it's NOT the one that's powering your only working hydraulic pump like this DC-9 pilot, oops.

https://youtu.be/qeC1OwrBsS8

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