FTMCPIUS
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Securiy @ FRA in the 80s.

Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:45 pm

Hello. Newbie here.

I was having a discussion with a friend about what, for me, was a very unusual air travel experience. I told him about a flight I took (FRA-TLV) on October, 19, 1987. I remember that date well. I boarded a UA flight to FRA on Oct 18 where I was taking a flight to TLV. Turned out that hours after arriving in Tel Aviv I checked the news and discovered that while at altitude and during a late dinner my portfolio (and nearly everyone else’s) took a huge hit as the global markets had crashed (Black Monday).

Anyway, in addition to being subjected to multiple personal and baggage screenings, the flight’s passengers were loaded onto buses that were escorted by what looked like a paramilitary security force (armed vehicles, etc.). The passengers were bused to the aircraft which was located in an open area that seemed to be in the center of the airport. There was a military-like setup including what appeared to be heavy machine and anti aircraft weapons and a very substantial security force guarding the aircraft.

My friend tells me my imagination has the best of me -- that no such procedure or security setup ever existed, i.e. passengers boarding an aircraft in the open located far from a terminal and with the security setup I detailed. I’ve connected through other European airports since (LCY, LGW, CDG, AMS) but not FRA (where I would have attempted to confirm this) nor to TLV. Is my memory failing me?

The TLV flight was early on 19-10-87 on LH. Can anyone confirm what I KNOW occurred (and perhaps still does, not only at FRA but elsewhere)? Also trying to determine type of plane (A310?). This was my first time connecting through a European airport. I booked business class and found the LH leg more similar to coach than business in the U.S. I wonder if that remains the case.

Thanks for any and all help with this.
 
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Re: Securiy @ FRA in the 80s.

Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:50 am

First of all you did not fly UA to Frankfurt in 1987 as United only started to fly to Frankfurt in 1990.

As for the security of Tel Aviv flights , the flights are always been (LH/LY) been operated out of the Tel Aviv Gate (C9 or C23) at Frankfurt Airport. Nowadays only EL Al Flights are protected by armed forces from landing to departure but I remember in the early 90's Lufthansa planes operating to Tel Aviv received the same protection !
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afcjets
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Re: Securiy @ FRA in the 80s.

Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:20 pm

FTMCPIUS wrote:
I told him about a flight I took (FRA-TLV) on October, 19, 1987. I remember that date well. I boarded a UA flight to FRA on Oct 18 where I was taking a flight to TLV.


Delta777Jet wrote:
First of all you did not fly UA to Frankfurt in 1987 as United only started to fly to Frankfurt in 1990.


Are you sure about the date? If so the irony of your post is the bomb that brought down Pan Am Flight 103 from LHR-JFK in December 1988 was loaded onto the aircraft in FRA. You would expect FRA to have been lax about security before that date and very strict about it after.
 
debonair
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Re: Securiy @ FRA in the 80s.

Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:44 pm

Still in Force today:


Well, PanAm was a total different story and had nothing to do with security at Frankfurt: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... throw.html

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