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D B Cooper -- FBI Gives Up

Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:03 am

The FBI today announced that it is giving up the search for D B Cooper, the famous hijacker from the 1970's who bailed out the rear boarding ladder of a Northwest 727 somewhere over Oregon. No trace of hiw was ever found, but a tiny bit of decomposed money was found about a decade ago.

My personal opinion is that he died during the bailout.
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Re: D B Cooper -- FBI Gives Up

Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:53 am

Fascinating story! I was wondering what the effect of a 727's wake would have on a parachutist jumping out the back?
 
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Re: D B Cooper -- FBI Gives Up

Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:58 pm

Eagle15 wrote:
Fascinating story! I was wondering what the effect of a 727's wake would have on a parachutist jumping out the back?


It would be a hell of a ride, but a human body with a closed chute is a dense thing. He would fall below any such effect very quickly.
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Re: D B Cooper -- FBI Gives Up

Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:36 am

I guess paratroopers jump out of C-17's....
 
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Re: D B Cooper -- FBI Gives Up

Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:17 am

DocLightning wrote:
Eagle15 wrote:
Fascinating story! I was wondering what the effect of a 727's wake would have on a parachutist jumping out the back?


It would be a hell of a ride, but a human body with a closed chute is a dense thing. He would fall below any such effect very quickly.


A 727 was used for a while in the 1990s in a skydiving operation somewhere in the U.S. A DC-9-21 was also used more recently in a similar operation. It was based at a small airport in Perris, near Riverside, California. There are several videos, one here. I think the event pictured was in Illinois.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3TtL2cmlcM

The DC-9-21 was originally delivered to SAS in 1969 and had several later operators including Spirit, Valujet and Allegiant. The FAA still shows it registered to the skydiving operation but another site says it was for sale in 2014 and mentioned that the engines may have been timed out due to the number of cycles and would require expensive overhaul.

SAS was the only customer for the DC-9-21 which was designed to meet their needs for better performance from short runways at some of their smaller destinations. It used the short fuselage of the DC-9-10 series but the larger wing and more powerful engines of the -30 series. The 10 aircraft ordered by SAS were the only DC-9-21s built.
 
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Re: D B Cooper -- FBI Gives Up

Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:42 pm

Investigators think letter confirms ID of D.B. Cooper

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-wor ... -b-cooper/
 
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Re: D B Cooper -- FBI Gives Up

Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:08 am

Say what you want about Cooper, but this is the closest to a James Bond/Thomas Crown-type of heist ever. I don't advocate crime, but since no people were harmed (on the contrary, the FAs said he was actually charming), this is the coolest crime in US history.
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Re: D B Cooper -- FBI Gives Up

Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:00 pm

TWA772LR wrote:
Say what you want about Cooper, but this is the closest to a James Bond/Thomas Crown-type of heist ever. I don't advocate crime, but since no people were harmed (on the contrary, the FAs said he was actually charming), this is the coolest crime in US history.


I agree. Still baffles me to this day.
 
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Re: D B Cooper -- FBI Gives Up

Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:31 pm

Except that it's almost certain he died. This is one of those things that, like Amelia Earhart's disappearance, has actually been about 90% solved, just not to the point that anyone can come to a definitive conclusion. I mean, there's no body. But to look at any conclusion other than the most obvious, you'd have to ignore a lot of evidence.

The FBI themselves believe he died during the jump. One of his two chutes was sewn shut, for one thing, which he apparently never bothered to check because he was not an expert skydiver. Yet he was jumping at night, in the dark, in bad weather, with no help on the ground, into harsh terrain, with one chute inoperative. This is something not even highly trained skydivers would do.

Not only was some of the money found buried in the mud, but the rest was never spent or deposited anywhere. The government had recorded the serial numbers on all the money. So unless this guy, who had no idea what he was doing, somehow survived a dangerous skydive and then slept with the money under his mattress without telling a single person about it until now, he died during the jump. The money that was found was found on the banks of a river, so his body probably just got washed out somewhere, most likely along with the rest of the money.
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