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Re: Largest equipement-shortest route, smallest equipment-longest route

Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:21 pm

UPS flies an A300 scheduled as UPS503 intrastate between DSM and CID and return as UPS504.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS503/history/20160706/0228Z/KDSM/KCID
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS504/history/20160706/1039Z/KCID/KDSM

According to the Great Circle Mapper it's 104 miles each way
http://www.gcmap.com/dist?P=dsm-cid-dsm
 
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Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:36 pm

metroline2006 wrote:
Air Canada A319 LHR to St John's or BA A318 LCY-JFK got to be up there


For AC, YYC-YHZ is longer, as mentioned.[/quote]

AC has several other A319/320 nonstop routes longer than YYT-LHR. A few that come to mind: YUL-LAX, YUL-SFO, YYZ-SJO.
 
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Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:28 am

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Re: Largest equipement-shortest route, smallest equipment-longest route

Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:00 am

PatrickZ80 wrote:
precure787 wrote:
The A318 (smallest Airbus model) made the longest route from London-City to New York-JFK.


They do, but always with a stop in SNN where it's being refueled. The runway in LCY is too short to allow for such a long flight. SNN-JFK is still a long flight, but not as long as LCY-JFK.


LCY incurred weight restrictions on larger aircraft, particularly the A318. For that reason, BA used a 32 business class configurated A318, and used only small amount of fuel on the outbound leg.
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Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:36 am

Sadly, the use of narrowbody for long-haul low-yield routes is the future. I'm not talking about a WOW Air/Icelandair/Copa kind of network, but airlines fitting planes to markets instead of geography. For example, Qatar flies A319/A320s to many destinations in Europe, as well as Gulf Air and Oman Air. Whereas, of course, Emirates flies an A380 to many of the exact places.
 
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Re: Largest equipement-shortest route, smallest equipment-longest route

Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:15 am

deltairlines wrote:
There are no flights between DXB and AUH. They are around 1h30 to drive - not even 90 miles apart from city center to city center.


Google Maps shows 98.8 Miles, which is longer than the 91.6 miles between GSP-CLT (served 8X daily by AA regional carriers on most weekdays) . Although I'm sure no one is going to fly to DXB for work if they live in AUH (or vice-versa), you'd think there would be some demand between the two for connecting traffic.
 
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Re: Largest equipement-shortest route, smallest equipment-longest route

Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:04 am

wasn't there a Swissair flight in the 80s/90s between Kinshasa and Brazzaville operated with DC-10 and later MD-11?
 
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Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:01 pm

American uses a mix of 757/763/772 on MIA-MCO. That's blocked at just under an hour.
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Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:21 pm

Viscount724 wrote:
rampart wrote:
UA used to run a DC-10 from DEN-COS-DEN (late 80s, early 90s), as a tag on from somewhere that returned to DEN. About 70 miles, this would have been to Stapleton Airport, as DIA wasn't around yet. I'm sure it didn't take in local traffic (as most of those mentioned above wouldn't either). But, it was part of the schedule.



Yes the UA DC-10 DEN-COS-DEN did carry local traffic. There would be no reason not to. It appears in the October 1991 OAG. UA146 departed DEN 1900, arrived COS 1936, daily except Saturday. It originated LAX. The aircraft overnighted at COS and operated as UA293 the next morning, daily except Sunday, departed COS 0710, arrived DEN 0745 and continued to SEA at 0835.


You're right. I guess I meant that there was probably nobody actually paying for a commuting flight from DEN to COS or vice versa, it was connecting or through passengers, as you say.
 
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Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:34 pm

dmstorm22 wrote:
For the Small Equipment - Longest Route side of the equation, it probably goes to UA Express routes on E-145 / E-170 types.

I know these fly like IAH-CANADA routes.


The longest route I have flown is on an ERJ 145 of CO from YYZ to IAH. This was one of the worst flights I have ever experienced. The shortest route on the largest aircraft was a B777 flight on DL from ATL - MCO. That was fun.
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Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:45 pm

precure787 wrote:
PatrickZ80 wrote:
precure787 wrote:
The A318 (smallest Airbus model) made the longest route from London-City to New York-JFK.


They do, but always with a stop in SNN where it's being refueled. The runway in LCY is too short to allow for such a long flight. SNN-JFK is still a long flight, but not as long as LCY-JFK.


LCY incurred weight restrictions on larger aircraft, particularly the A318. For that reason, BA used a 32 business class configurated A318, and used only small amount of fuel on the outbound leg.


I have flown east from JFK to LCY nice service, comfortable aircraft, quite enjoyable.
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:22 am

In 2013 I flew BKK to CNX on both the 744 and 773 with Thai Airways. At just under an hour flying time.
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:01 am

WestJet use 737-700s across the Atlantic from Glasgow-Halifax. And you all thought 757s were bad for transcontinental flights. On the other hand, I think there's a 767 every day going from Edinburgh-London Heathrow.
 
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:29 pm

Arkia flies the 753 from TLV-ETH, which is only a 37-minute flight.
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:45 am

Crackshot wrote:
Qantas used to operate SYD-MEL and SYD-BNE with the 763 before they retired it. On the other extreme, they use the 738 for SYD/MEL/BNE-PER, as does Virgin Australia.


SYD-MEL and SYD-BNE is now primarily A332. ANZ regularly does AKL-SYD with 773.
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:17 am

andr16b wrote:
WestJet use 737-700s across the Atlantic from Glasgow-Halifax. And you all thought 757s were bad for transcontinental flights. On the other hand, I think there's a 767 every day going from Edinburgh-London Heathrow.


I think you mean "intercontinental" (between two continents), not "transcontinental" (across the same continent).

WestJet also uses the 737-700 on St. John's-Dublin, their first and shortest transatlantic route, shorter than quite a few of their domestic routes.
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:25 am

AA DC-10 flew DFW-IAH-DFW in the 80's. Maybe DFW-SAT? They also had a 767 LAX-SAN tag to the IAD-LAX flight.
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:36 pm

EI used to operate DUB-SNN with the A330. This was stopped once the stopover rule was scrapped (different political mess of a story altogether)
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:55 pm

HA with some regularity will fly A330s and 767s on flights like HNL-OGG (which takes a whopping 15 minutes on a bad day). Many of these are repositioning flights, but they are sold to the public and do happen with some frequency.
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Re: Largest equipement-shortest route, smallest equipment-longest route

Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:38 am

andr16b wrote:
WestJet use 737-700s across the Atlantic from Glasgow-Halifax. And you all thought 757s were bad for transcontinental flights. On the other hand, I think there's a 767 every day going from Edinburgh-London Heathrow.


Just FYI, BA428/BA429 LHR-AMS-LHR is with a 763 currently, which is shorter than LHR-EDI
 
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:02 am

Kent350787 wrote:
Crackshot wrote:
Qantas used to operate SYD-MEL and SYD-BNE with the 763 before they retired it. On the other extreme, they use the 738 for SYD/MEL/BNE-PER, as does Virgin Australia.


SYD-MEL and SYD-BNE is now primarily A332. ANZ regularly does AKL-SYD with 773.


Currently SYD-BNE is almost exclusively B738s on QF - I travelled on two flights recently, when I originally booked them (specifically), they were A330s but come the time to fly there were downgraded.
But QF 500/2/4/6/8/10/2/6/20/4/8/30/2/6/8/40/4/8/54/6/62 certainly on weekdays at least are only B738s

SYD-MEL is predominately B738s too .....QF401/3/7/11/3/7/9/21/3/7/31/5/9/43/5/7/53/5/9/61/3/5/79/89 whilst only QF405/9/15/29/41/9/51/93 and 7 are A330s


Taking of SYD-AKL, there's also the LA 789 and EK A380 too
 
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:59 pm

I flew JAX-ATL on a 767
 
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Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:13 pm

LUX-SCN is sometimes subbed by a 738 instead of the usual Q400. For 50miles the 738 is pretty big and the fight takes between 10 and 20mins
 
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Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:03 am

TACV and TUI(Arke) fly 738's between AMS and Cabo Verde, what means about 4800 km...
 
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Re: Largest equipement-shortest route, smallest equipment-longest route

Sun Jul 31, 2016 6:55 am

I've flown two time from DOH to DXB on B777 and A330.
In the past many LH domestic flight on A300.
 
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Re: Largest equipement-shortest route, smallest equipment-longest route

Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:36 am

Here's a Wikipedia list of longest scheduled flights by type, I didn't check everything, but it seems pretty up to date.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-stop_f ... craft_type
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Re: Largest equipement-shortest route, smallest equipment-longest route

Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:11 pm

Does HAL still have a once a day LAX-OGG-HNL rotation in a 767?
 
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Re: Largest equipement-shortest route, smallest equipment-longest route

Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:58 pm

GSPFlyer wrote:
deltairlines wrote:
There are no flights between DXB and AUH. They are around 1h30 to drive - not even 90 miles apart from city center to city center.


Google Maps shows 98.8 Miles, which is longer than the 91.6 miles between GSP-CLT (served 8X daily by AA regional carriers on most weekdays) . Although I'm sure no one is going to fly to DXB for work if they live in AUH (or vice-versa), you'd think there would be some demand between the two for connecting traffic.


There actually is a pretty reasonable amount of demand to fly Etihad from residents of Dubai & for Emirates from Abu Dhabi.
To cater to this, Etihad offers a shuttle bus from its travel hub in Dubai (with IATA code XNB) and you also can ticket it as such. The service will show equipment as "Bus" and there will be no flight number. In my experience, booking from XNB will often show ridiculous options to facilitate "connections" with your flight from Abu Dhabi. You can also check-in luggage at the travel hub (except flights to the US). The buses from XNB to AUH have been full whenever I've traveled which is, admittedly, not frequent.

If you are flying Etihad to India, it will operate from DXB with an Etihad codeshare number & will be operated by Jet Airways.

As for how Emirates does it on their side, I do not know (since I've never had to use it) but they do have a shuttle service for passengers from Abu Dhabi & Al Ain - I don't know whether it is as structured as Etihad or whether it is simply a case of going to a designated location and then boarding.

Similarly, there are shuttles operating from DXB to SHJ operated by Air Arabia.

Given short distances, excellent roads and cheap petrol, flying intercity in the UAE is not too worthwhile (unless doing the whole Rotanajet thing to Sir Bani Yas island).
The only route I can imagine being even remotely needed is from Ras Al Khaimah to Abu Dhabi (opposite ends of the country, approximately 4-6 hours by road depending on your speeding preferences).

But yes to your point, there is no need / interest for an AUH-DXB O&D route.

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Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:37 am

Copa does SFO-PTY (7 hours 15 minutes I think, red eye) on a 738
 
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Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:52 am

What about Houston to Norway on the 737 for a while? Albeit all business class.
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Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:59 pm

Definitely DOH-DXB on EK A380 is the biggest wide body on the shortest route winner!
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Re: Largest equipement-shortest route, smallest equipment-longest route

Thu May 04, 2017 10:56 pm

Smallest equipment-longest route:
Porter Airlines Q400 Toronto City-Melbourne,FL

Biggest equipment - shortest route:
British Airways B777 Antigua-St. Kitts
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Fri May 19, 2017 2:56 pm

What about LATAM's daily 8PM GIG-GRU service with the 763? A shy 40 mins hope...
 
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Re: Largest equipement-shortest route, smallest equipment-longest route

Sun May 21, 2017 9:22 pm

Big Equipment Short Route has to go to DHL who fly the A300-600 between London Luton (LTN) and Heathrow (LHR). About 10 mins tops flight time with distance can't be more than 30nm.
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Mon May 22, 2017 12:03 am

Even though it's been discontinued I would have said SAS flying a 737-700 from Stavanger to Houston
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Re: Largest equipement-shortest route, smallest equipment-longest route

Wed May 24, 2017 7:27 pm

Back in the 70´s - 80´s, Mexicana Airlines used to fly MEX-ACA and GDL-LAP (130nm and 300nm respectively) with DC10-15. There were also some quick jumps like CUN-CZM, MEX-UPN, GDL-PVR (no more than 30 min flight) operated with B727.

On the other side, Mexicana also operated from MEX to MIA, DEN and LAS with F-100.
 
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Re: Largest equipement-shortest route, smallest equipment-longest route

Thu May 25, 2017 1:50 pm

BA used to operate KIN-MBJ using 777-200ERs (before that DC-10s) up to March 2002, distance 82 miles.

BWIA for a while did TAB-POS using TriStars, 52 miles.
 
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Thu May 25, 2017 3:51 pm

deltairlines wrote:
EMB170 wrote:
I'd have to imagine that EK or EY flying between AUH and DXB would rank up there somewhere, given that EK really doesn't have much smaller than the 777. Also, (in the past), SR used to fly MD-11 equipment between GVA-ZRH at times as the M11s cycled off of the GVA-JFK route through the rest of the route network. Does LX fly any 77Ws or 330/340s on Le Pendulair to cycle the aircraft through?


There are no flights between DXB and AUH. They are around 1h30 to drive - not even 90 miles apart from city center to city center.

Shortest widebody flights scheduled out there (for June) are as follows:
BA ANU-SKB, 2x/wk, 777, 63 miles
Dragonair CAN-HKG, daily, A330-300, 71 miles
Ethopian SSG-DLA, 3x/wk, 787-8, 72 miles
BA/KLM/QR DOH-BAH, BA daily 777, QR 1x/wk 788, KL 5x/wk 332, 91 miles

Most of these are simple tag-ons with the exception of the 1x/wk QR 788 and the Dragonair flight, which surely is just to facilitate connections versus crossing the landborder and traversing all of Hong Kong to reach the airport facilities there.


Multiple daily service on EK between DXB and MCT which is longer than those in your list but at 217 miles is shorter than DXB-DOH
 
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Thu May 25, 2017 4:02 pm

Our favorites at EK flew an A380 on DXB-DOH for a bit, IIRC. They still fly A380 DXB-KWI, which would be the shortest route on the biggest plane.
I think PIT-CDG is a decent contestant for long NB route, as is the former NW DTW-DUS, which the crazy crowd here drools over
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