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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:34 pm
by KarelXWB
hkcanadaexpat wrote:Also MSN 95 (Thai Airways #3) has made its way to the flightline.
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Thai A350 by
Martyn Cartledge ASP Photography, on Flickr
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:57 pm
by Slug71
Are CX and QR now equal with deliveries?
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:04 pm
by rufusmi
Slug71 wrote:Are CX and QR now equal with deliveries?
No, QR has 14 of their own birds, plus the leased LATAM birds, of which 2 have been delivered so far.
The A350 currently at the Delivery Center for CX (MSN 85) will be their 13th.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:24 pm
by Slug71
Thanks.
Anyone know if the list prices on Wikipedia are accurate?
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:33 pm
by Mumrik
KarelXWB wrote:
Why are the Azul A350 now in storage? Is the order confirmed to be canceled?
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:38 pm
by Bongodog1964
WIederling wrote:KarelXWB wrote:audidudi wrote:I'm still curious to know why some birds come out of the FAL with the complete tail already painted, as the OZ one has in the photo in reply #2070 above, while others including DL's #1 is not?
Only a few paint hangars are capable of painting a sole tail fin. Due to the higher production rate, less and less tails will be painted prior to final assembly.
There was some word around that Airbus would offer "ink-jet printed" airline liveries.
limited to the tailplane or all over. no idea.
does this fit together somehow?
Airbus must have been offering this for some time, as all BA tails are a plastic wrap
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:34 am
by hkcanadaexpat
Busy morning in Toulouse...
MSN 87 (Lufthansa #3) has been transferred to the delivery centre
MSN 85 (Cathay #13) is on its first CAF
MSN 91 (Air Caraibes #2/Aercap) is on its second CAF
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:22 am
by Geoff1947
Hopefully 3 or 4 more deliveries this month making 6 or 7 in total.
Geoff
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:35 pm
by BOAC1966
Of the -1000 only MSN65 doing much work ...her two sisters the heavily instruemented test frames not active and nearly two weeks since MSN59 airborne following VMU tests. Mid term design and software tweaks and hopefully nothing more. MSN65 with cabin fit certainly buzzing around and that is a healthy indicator!
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:39 pm
by BobMUC
Update from Airbus:
"A350-1000 performed ‘High and Warm’ flight test campaign in Latin America"http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/news-e ... n-america/
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:37 am
by hkcanadaexpat
MSN 69 (Qatar #15) powered on this morning.
MSN 91 (Air Caraibes #2/Aercap) just had its final regs applied. Delivery flight imminent.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:01 pm
by hkcanadaexpat
MSN 87 (Lufthansa #3) performed its first CAF this afternoon.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:55 pm
by hkcanadaexpat
A couple first engine runs... yesterday MSN 95 (Thai Airways #3) and today MSN 94 (Asiana #1)
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:42 am
by hkcanadaexpat
MSN 97 (Finnair #8) moved to the DC yesterday and is on its first CAF as we speak.
It also looks like MSN 107 (Singapore #13/14?) made it to the flight line yesterday and powered on. It is again active today. Weird though as it seems to have jumped MSN 99 in the process which is unheard of as far as the Singapore Airlines frames have gone. I haven't seen a picture yet so I reserve judgement until visual confirmation is to be had but it is active on FR.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:10 am
by StTim
MSN97 confused me as they have started recycling previous A350 test registrations. You are right it it on line at the flightline.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:46 am
by TheGeordielad
I heard Lucky Air will take delivery of A350s next year.Does anyone know how many they are getting?
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:17 am
by hkcanadaexpat
MSN 96 (Singapore #12) joined the others at the DC yesterday. 5x A350s at the DC in the last week of March!
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:06 pm
by audidudi
hkcanadaexpat wrote:MSN 91 (Air Caraibes #2/Aercap) just had its final regs applied. Delivery flight imminent.
She was delivered today March 27th.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:04 pm
by bycac
RTO done FF tomorrow !!
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:24 pm
by BOAC1966
-1000 in Istres over last three days and the other now down in Seville .....wet engine ingestion and noise tests? MSN59 still remains out of the programme ....now 17 days? Interesting to know when AB give an update.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:59 pm
by JoergAtADN
Bongodog1964 wrote:WIederling wrote:There was some word around that Airbus would offer "ink-jet printed" airline liveries.
limited to the tailplane or all over. no idea.
does this fit together somehow?
Airbus must have been offering this for some time, as all BA tails are a plastic wrap
This has nothing todo with wraping, the Airbus Ink-Jet-Printer prints directly on the aircraft surface. The coating has the surface quality and weight of an airbrushed paintwork, but it can apply reproducible high resolution full coloured pictures on the tailfin.
AFAIK this is only available for the A320 family now.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:00 pm
by StTim
MSN #103 ET4 is online at the flightline tonight.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:45 am
by hkcanadaexpat
bycac wrote:RTO done FF tomorrow !!
RTO also completed for MSN 95 (Thai #3) on Monday.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:09 am
by scotron11
bycac wrote:RTO done FF tomorrow !!
That is a great looking aircraft!
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:58 am
by gloom
FWZNX squawking at TLS, so MSN93 powered up.
Cheers,
Adam
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:11 am
by hkcanadaexpat
MSN 96 (Singapore Air #12) getting ready for first CAF (AIB03FG)
MSN 95 (Thai Airways #3) getting ready for first flight (AIB01NZ)
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:34 am
by Bongodog1964
JoergAtADN wrote:Bongodog1964 wrote:WIederling wrote:There was some word around that Airbus would offer "ink-jet printed" airline liveries.
limited to the tailplane or all over. no idea.
does this fit together somehow?
Airbus must have been offering this for some time, as all BA tails are a plastic wrap
This has nothing todo with wraping, the Airbus Ink-Jet-Printer prints directly on the aircraft surface. The coating has the surface quality and weight of an airbrushed paintwork, but it can apply reproducible high resolution full coloured pictures on the tailfin.
AFAIK this is only available for the A320 family now.
Great idea in theory, didn't realise it was ink jet direct onto the fin, rather than a plastic film. What however happens in 5 years time when a repaint is due, take the fin off, and send it to an ink jet facility or revert to traditional methods ?
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:18 am
by KarelXWB
Quite a busy delivery centre... lots of widebody aircraft awaiting Q1 delivery push.
Delivery Center 24/3/2017 by
A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:19 am
by KarelXWB
StTim wrote:MSN #103 ET4 is online at the flightline tonight.
Still unpainted AFAIK.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:29 am
by KarelXWB
The A350-1000 completed its high energy RTO:
Successful High Energy Rejected Take Off for the #A350-1000 showing good braking performance of the 6-wheel MLG architecture, as expected.
https://twitter.com/Airbus/status/846646207824957440
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:09 am
by ap305
Thanks for that karel- This could suggest that flutter etc are already done as historically the high energy rto is the final of the major tests to be done.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:28 am
by StTim
I presume the MAx energy RTO was done this week at Istres!
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:37 am
by KarelXWB
ap305 wrote:Thanks for that karel- This could suggest that flutter etc are already done as historically the high energy rto is the final of the major tests to be done.
It was just a high energy RTO, the maximum energy RTO should be done at the end of the test campaign.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:45 am
by ap305
Oops-got the two mixed up. IIRC the high energy rto is required to be done before carrying volunteers in the cabin equipped aircraft.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:05 am
by KarelXWB
MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.
Msn112 27/3/2017 by
A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:23 pm
by KarelXWB
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:15 pm
by BOAC1966
Thank hou for updates Karel. Any indications where MSN59 is currently located in TLS?
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:18 pm
by BOAC1966
Looks as -1000 noise footprint test have started this evening in Seville OZP
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:54 pm
by Quint1
KarelXWB wrote:
What a stunner, best looking A350 so far IMO.
Thanks for the photo
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:55 pm
by KarelXWB
Looks like MSN 85, 87 and 96 have been handed over to the customer, aircraft are visible with their final registrations:
Delivery Center 27/3/2017 by
A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr
Singapore A350-941 msn 096 by
dn280tls, on Flickr
Lufthansa A350 MSN 87 by
RomainC82, on Flickr
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:52 pm
by ZEDZAG
KarelXWB wrote:MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.
So now we have MSN 52 55 60 that are UL ntu and lately 98 and 112 that are stored.
Are any of these frames furnished? The UL frames are owned by Aercap? What about Azul ones?
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:00 pm
by MD80MKE
ZEDZAG wrote:KarelXWB wrote:MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.
So now we have MSN 52 55 60 that are UL ntu and lately 98 and 112 that are stored.
Are any of these frames furnished? The UL frames are owned by Aercap? What about Azul ones?
I believe 52 and 55 have officially belonged to Aercap since December last year. They will be handed over to Sichuan hopefully soon depending on the new type certification on Chinese side. 98 and 112 are taken over by HNA group and rumored to go to Capital Airlines. And the remainders of the Azul NTUs should also go to one of the subsidiaries of the HNA Group.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:01 pm
by KarelXWB
ZEDZAG wrote:KarelXWB wrote:MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.
So now we have MSN 52 55 60 that are UL ntu and lately 98 and 112 that are stored.
Are any of these frames furnished? The UL frames are owned by Aercap? What about Azul ones?
MSN 98 and 112 will eventually go to HNA Group.
MSN 52 and 55 do have a cabin.
MSN 60 was never finished and delivered. This may still happen at the end of the year.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:43 pm
by Geoff1947
ZEDZAG wrote:KarelXWB wrote:MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.
So now we have MSN 52 55 60 that are UL ntu and lately 98 and 112 that are stored.
Are any of these frames furnished? The UL frames are owned by Aercap? What about Azul ones?
All are expected to enter service with Chinese airlines before the end of 2017.
Geoff
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:27 am
by gatibosgru
KarelXWB wrote:
Might be OT, but does AD intend to take their A359s back from QR when they're done to operate or will they go to someone else?
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:06 am
by hkcanadaexpat
gatibosgru wrote:Might be OT, but does AD intend to take their A359s back from QR when they're done to operate or will they go to someone else?
The QR frames are actually owned by JJ not AD. And yes they will go back to JJ post dry lease. The 4 frames have 6-12 month leases.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:47 am
by hkcanadaexpat
MSN 99 (Singapore #13 or 14) is out on the flightline this morning. This is the 5th roll out in the last 5 days and 9th during the month of March.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:04 am
by StTim
Some are hitting the flightline unpainted. Do they have engines? If so it seems the paint hangers are becoming critical path. Perhaps they will fly some to another facility for painting.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:37 am
by KarelXWB
Yes they do have engines. Some aircraft are painted after cabin/engine fit and move to the flight line afterwards.
Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:24 am
by BOAC1966
Nice to see MSN59 back at work with her two sisters!
