Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - 2016-2017 (Part 17)

Eyad89 · Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:02 pm

Geoff1947 wrote:
Slug71 wrote:
What's going on with the -1000s? Been quiet on that front for a while now.

Delivery schedules are unpredictable because QR are the first planned operator. There were scheduled to be 3 deliveries in 2017 but it could be that CX will be the first in service in 2018. Even CX have pushed back their -1000s until after the last of their 22 -900s.

Geoff

Has there been any hints that QR may delay accepting their first A35K?

Polot · Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:08 pm

Eyad89 wrote:
Geoff1947 wrote:
Slug71 wrote:
What's going on with the -1000s? Been quiet on that front for a while now.

Delivery schedules are unpredictable because QR are the first planned operator. There were scheduled to be 3 deliveries in 2017 but it could be that CX will be the first in service in 2018. Even CX have pushed back their -1000s until after the last of their 22 -900s.

Geoff

Has there been any hints that QR may delay accepting their first A35K?

No. The -1000 was originally expected to be delivered around now, but obviously it is not ready (re: certified) yet which isn't QR's fault. I believe QR said last month delivery will now be in Q4.

Geoff1947 · Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:46 pm

Polot wrote:
Eyad89 wrote:
Geoff1947 wrote:

Delivery schedules are unpredictable because QR are the first planned operator. There were scheduled to be 3 deliveries in 2017 but it could be that CX will be the first in service in 2018. Even CX have pushed back their -1000s until after the last of their 22 -900s.

Geoff

Has there been any hints that QR may delay accepting their first A35K?

No. The -1000 was originally expected to be delivered around now, but obviously it is not ready (re: certified) yet which isn't QR's fault. I believe QR said last month delivery will now be in Q4.

QR are not taking their -900s so I think the -1000s are quite likely to be delayed by them once Airbus has them ready.

Geoff

Prashvon · Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:07 pm

Hello!!!!!! Any news regarding MSN 145 and MSN 157?

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:08 pm

A new curve ball in the QR A350 shuffle... MSN 78 is back online on the flightline this afternoon...

audidudi · Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:11 pm

Prashvon wrote:
Hello!!!!!! Any news regarding MSN 145 and MSN 157?

Why don't you just refer to this?...and bookmark it!

https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list

Finn350 · Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:18 pm

Geoff1947 wrote:
Polot wrote:
Eyad89 wrote:

Has there been any hints that QR may delay accepting their first A35K?

No. The -1000 was originally expected to be delivered around now, but obviously it is not ready (re: certified) yet which isn't QR's fault. I believe QR said last month delivery will now be in Q4.

QR are not taking their -900s so I think the -1000s are quite likely to be delayed by them once Airbus has them ready.

Geoff

Four QR -900 frames were contractually delayed so that QR was able to cancel those frames. Unless the -1000 frames are not contractually delayed to the point of cancellation, QR just can't refuse to take the frames without penalties.

BOAC1966 · Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:42 pm

Re -1000 in June 2016 Airbus said first delivery had slipped slightly to the fourth quarter of 2017. It is therefore basically on schedule and it would appear the test programme has progressed smoothly with airframe and powerplants performing well. All three test aircraft have been regularly flying and hot and cold climate along high altitude trials completed. Route proving yet to start in earnest but suspect that before this can happen it must reach some qualifying benchmarks within the certification programme. It would be interesting to get a view from those close to the programme as to outstanding milestones necessary to gain full certification.
Karel?

KarelXWB · Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:27 am

Finnair unveils a special Marimekko Kivet livery on their 11th A350 (MSN 134):

https://twitter.com/PoTerotin/status/888326510326710272

Strato2 · Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:33 am

That livery literally rocks.

KarelXWB · Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:15 am

MSN 83 QR is preparing for its 3rd flight:

https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB03NM/e2d1e76

AIB03NM msn83 21/7/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:20 pm

There was an engine run on MSN 138 CI #8 today.

First engine run msn138 F-WZFS 21/7/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

Nami · Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:52 pm

Regarding Finnair, the CEO said in an interview this week that AY still has the option to change some of the orders to A350-1000, and the first one could be delivered around 2021 if they make the decision.

KarelXWB · Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:26 pm

Fuselage sections for MSN 177 TG #8 are being prepared for Beluga transport to TLS:

https://twitter.com/Tobias_Gudat/status ... 578484224/

KarelXWB · Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:28 pm

The day isn't over yet and MSN 122 SQ #16 is heading home:

Airbus A350 -941 122 9V-SMP Singapore Airlines delivery 21jul17 TLS¬SIN ex F-WZFC

https://fr24.com/SIA8895/e2e7c7f

This one marks delivery #99. Next week MSN 121 CI #7 will become the 100th A350 delivered.

HELyes · Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:04 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Finnair unveils a special Marimekko Kivet livery on their 11th A350 (MSN 134)

:

Looking something like this:

Tedd · Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:44 pm

HELyes wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
Finnair unveils a special Marimekko Kivet livery on their 11th A350 (MSN 134)
:

Looking something like this:

I hope this doesn`t indicate a very loose weave in the carbon-fibre construction

StTim · Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:51 am

Unusual test flight for MSN133 SQ17 - Currently at 39,000 heading south near Madrid. I wonder where it is going?

https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB04GO/e3031c3

rbrunner · Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:03 am

Seville?

StTim · Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:31 am

I wondered that but it has just flown over Seville at 39,000.

ap305 · Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:35 am

This is the same bird that had a trailing cone on the first flight? somethings up... perhaps the first 900 with the revised twist....

StTim · Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:38 am

A package of improvements implemented on this frame?

It is certainly odd.

I wonder if they have started rolling some of the -1000 improvements back to the -900 such as composite door frames and revised bilge construction.

Strato2 · Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:56 pm

HELyes wrote:
Looking something like this:

Meh. Still holding out hope that AY would one day make a A350 retrojet with the classic DC-10 livery.

KarelXWB · Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:17 pm

MSN 134 AY #11 has moved to the flight line.

Finnair Airbus A350-941 cn 134 F-WZGY // OH-LWL by Clément Alloing, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:35 am

MSN 127 LH #4 has moved to the delivery centre.

Aircellist · Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:38 pm

Starbucks: allow me to thank you again for the A350 stats sheet, which is the easy part of my post; great job!…

… and also to ask for an update on the monthly activity, and that is the uneasy part: two deliveries are not listed, if I follow well…

I see that with the acceleration of A350 activity, maintaining that page will be somewhat more time consuming. Are you alone in up keeping it?

KarelXWB · Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:16 pm

A nice aerial view of the flight line taken last week:

A350s by dn280tls, on Flickr

trex8 · Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:38 am

KarelXWB wrote:
A nice aerial view of the flight line taken last week:

A350s by dn280tls, on Flickr

Whos the totally unpainted one??

hkcanadaexpat · Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:56 am

trex8 wrote:
Whos the totally unpainted one??

MSN 130 (TG #6) before it flew to Hamburg for painting.

Geoff1947 · Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:05 am

Any pictures of the parts for MSN 118 arriving ? This will be the first -1000 for CX and will be one of the first -1000s into service. Could be the first if QR continue to delay deliveries.

Geoff

APYu · Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:12 am

QR will want the attention of the 1000 series and being the first to operate it. Even though they have delayed some of the 9s, I would expect them to still be the first for the 1000 for the attention factor

Jayafe · Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:24 am

APYu wrote:
QR will want the attention of the 1000 series and being the first to operate it. Even though they have delayed some of the 9s, I would expect them to still be the first for the 1000 for the attention factor

Unless they decide last minute that they refuse to take the plane with a cheap excuse, for a 3rd time...

KarelXWB · Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:37 am

Geoff1947 wrote:
Any pictures of the parts for MSN 118 arriving ?

Not yet, FAL entry is scheduled for August.

Geoff1947 · Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:04 am

KarelXWB wrote:
Geoff1947 wrote:
Any pictures of the parts for MSN 118 arriving ?

Not yet, FAL entry is scheduled for August.

Thanks.

KarelXWB · Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:12 am

MSN 127 LH #4 in the air for its first CAF with 25 technicians onboard.

https://fr24.com/AIB04FN/e38c4eb

StTim · Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:25 am

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 127 LH #4 in the air for its first CAF with 25 technicians onboard.

https://fr24.com/AIB04FN/e38c4eb

Fixing cabin items in flight?

KarelXWB · Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:27 am

StTim wrote:
Fixing cabin items in flight?

Don't think so:

https://twitter.com/lufthansaNews/statu ... 2775004160
https://twitter.com/lufthansaNews/statu ... 8675088384
https://twitter.com/lufthansaNews/statu ... 2526896128
https://twitter.com/lufthansaNews/statu ... 5501724673

StTim · Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:30 am

Ah - 25 technicians from LH testing everything from the sounds of it.

trex8 · Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:39 am

Is this "normal" to have that many airline techs on board checking stuff or is it simply because its LH or theyre just able to get that many of their own people there easily from their European bases. I would imagine eg East Asian carriers would find it somewhat expensive to send that many people to TLS or PAE to do such checks

KarelXWB · Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:18 pm

A delivery flight plan has been filled for MSN 121:

Airbus A350 -941 121 B-18908 China Airlines delivery 25jul17 TLS-TPE ex F-WZGS

StTim · Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:47 pm

Is there any sort of fanfare as the 100th?

Slug71 · Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:01 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 127 LH #4 in the air for its first CAF with 25 technicians onboard.

https://fr24.com/AIB04FN/e38c4eb

Pretty close off the line with MSN-133 which had the trailing cone and unusual test flight not too long ago.
I'm guessing something was updated around this mark, probably the revised wing twist?

ap305 · Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:34 pm

Slug71 wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 127 LH #4 in the air for its first CAF with 25 technicians onboard.

https://fr24.com/AIB04FN/e38c4eb

Pretty close off the line with MSN-133 which had the trailing cone and unusual test flight not too long ago.
I'm guessing something was updated around this mark, probably the revised wing twist?

I doubt 25 LH technicians have the required aerodynamic knowledge to contribute anything to Airbus or verify the changing of the wing twist. Msn-133's test flying pattern on the other hand does suggest it has something that requires aero validation by Airbus.

Slug71 · Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:01 pm

ap305 wrote:
Slug71 wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 127 LH #4 in the air for its first CAF with 25 technicians onboard.

https://fr24.com/AIB04FN/e38c4eb

Pretty close off the line with MSN-133 which had the trailing cone and unusual test flight not too long ago.
I'm guessing something was updated around this mark, probably the revised wing twist?

I doubt 25 LH technicians have the required aerodynamic knowledge to contribute anything to Airbus or verify the changing of the wing twist. Msn-133's test flying pattern on the other hand does suggest it has something that requires aero validation by Airbus.

Good point.

KarelXWB · Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:55 am

And so the 100th A350 has been delivered.

https://twitter.com/airbus

KarelXWB · Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:01 am

MSN 127 LH #4 second CAF today: https://fr24.com/AIB05FN/e3bde46

A330freak · Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:35 am

First Hong Kong Airlines A350 out of paint

F-WZGE by cliper31, on Flickr

LoganTheBogan · Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:06 am

Wow! The orange/red and yellow really suit the A350. It also helps that it has a fresh coat of white paint too!

QuawerAir · Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:40 am

Airbus Delivers 100th A350 XWB

China Airlines has received the 100th Airbus A350 to be delivered by the manufacturer.

http://www.airlinerworld.com/2017/07/airbus-delivers-100th-a350-xwb/

LoganTheBogan · Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:07 am

Video of 100th A350: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYnPPwrVMRE

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