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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:44 am

Does anyone have any information on the 3 NTU SriLankan Airways aircraft, MSNs 52, 55 and 60 due to go to Sichuan Airlines? The first 2 have already flown (3 and 6 times) and the 3rd is fully painted and due its first flight very shortly. Are the first 2 painted up and ready to be delivered?
 
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:55 am

They were delivered last year to the lessor.
 
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:46 am

Currently A350 has a max TO weight of around 270T and a Max ZFW of around 195T. Which means at max ZFW the aircraft can only load 75T of fuel out of a max of around 115T. Which basically means the aircraft can only fly around 65-70% of its maximum range with a full payload. Is this a competitive figure vs. the Boeing 777 and 787. It seems to me to be quite low.
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:23 pm

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This is a rather unusal picture, isn't it? Obviously taken from a driving car by a Chinese visitor of Airbus' facilities in TLS. I wonder about this person on the dirt track. Doesn't look as he has a professional reason to walk there.


I'm baffled by that, actually... it looks like a couple of the buildings in Toulouse yet I just cannot make the picture fit any perspective of the 3D view of Google Maps. I even looked at Finkenwerder.
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:30 pm

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N14AZ wrote:
This is a rather unusal picture, isn't it? Obviously taken from a driving car by a Chinese visitor of Airbus' facilities in TLS. I wonder about this person on the dirt track. Doesn't look as he has a professional reason to walk there.


I'm baffled by that, actually... it looks like a couple of the buildings in Toulouse yet I just cannot make the picture fit any perspective of the 3D view of Google Maps. I even looked at Finkenwerder.


The building at the back is the A350 FAL. That road is Chemin de la Crabe. There is parking space for a single A350, normally used to transfer A350s between different stations.

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Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:38 pm

KennyK wrote:
Does anyone have any information on the 3 NTU SriLankan Airways aircraft, MSNs 52, 55 and 60 due to go to Sichuan Airlines? The first 2 have already flown (3 and 6 times) and the 3rd is fully painted and due its first flight very shortly. Are the first 2 painted up and ready to be delivered?

MSN 52 certainly wasn't painted as of when this photo was recently taken, as the rear of the aircraft can be seen on the left of the pic!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/37173786014/

Sichuan Airlines did take delivery of their next A333 today however!

Airbus A330-343 1825 B-8690 Sichuan Airlines delivery 26 Oct 2017 TLS-TSN ex F-WWYJ
 
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:43 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
SomebodyInTLS wrote:
N14AZ wrote:
This is a rather unusal picture, isn't it? Obviously taken from a driving car by a Chinese visitor of Airbus' facilities in TLS. I wonder about this person on the dirt track. Doesn't look as he has a professional reason to walk there.


I'm baffled by that, actually... it looks like a couple of the buildings in Toulouse yet I just cannot make the picture fit any perspective of the 3D view of Google Maps. I even looked at Finkenwerder.


The building at the back is the A350 FAL. That road is Chemin de la Crabe. There is parking space for a single A350, normally used to transfer A350s between different stations.

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Ahhhh.... Google Maps satellite data is too old. *That's* why! I see you've used Bing (and only the aerial view - their "bird's eye" view is even older than Google Maps).
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:58 pm

MSN 60 (3U #1) just completed its RTO. First flight scheduled for Friday.
 
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MSN 60 (3U #1) just completed its RTO. First flight scheduled for Friday.

The A350 Production list on sites.google.com, which is not an official Airbus website, lists MSN 52 as 3U #1, MSN 55 as 3U #2 and MSN 60 as 3U #3, this being the order that they were built, but not necessarily the order that they will be delivered! Both MSN 52 and MSN 55 have already previously had their first flights on 26/10/2016 and 01/12/2016 respectively!
 
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:09 pm

Technically MSN52 and MSN55 were delivered in 2016. That is why the excellent spreadsheet mentioned has 47 deliveres but Airbus has 49 deliveries for the year. The spreadsheet tracks delivery flights and these frames never left TLS. MSN60 was put on hold at the same point by the look of it. I am sure there was some sort of deal with the Lessor.
 
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:47 pm

-1000 flight testing in BAQ continues ...must be tedious doing same pattern day after day! Is it linked to equatorial operations and cabin regime?
 
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:27 pm

Rumor has it that MSN 60 will be delivered in February 2018, although it could be delivered to the lessor at the end of this year. MSN 60 will become 3U #1 because unlike MSN 52/55, it has full airline livery, suggesting it will enter service first.
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:51 pm

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Rumor has it that MSN 60 will be delivered in February 2018, although it could be delivered to the lessor at the end of this year. MSN 60 will become 3U #1 because unlike MSN 52/55, it has full airline livery, suggesting it will enter service first.


Does it have CAAC approval jet? My memory failed me already today, but I think I read something about end of the year for it.
 
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:26 am

mat66 wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
Rumor has it that MSN 60 will be delivered in February 2018, although it could be delivered to the lessor at the end of this year. MSN 60 will become 3U #1 because unlike MSN 52/55, it has full airline livery, suggesting it will enter service first.
Does it have CAAC approval jet? My memory failed me already today, but I think I read something about end of the year for it.

There could be politics at play here. Air China may have an unwritten deal with the CAAC to be the first A350 operator in country which comes with bragging rights, marketing platforms etc... So perhaps Sichuan Airlines and Beijing Capital Airlines will be forced to wait a few months until Air China has milked the cow before launching operations. We did see something similar with the 787 whereby the breaks were put on Hainan Airlines to allow a 3-month buffer to China Southern to milk the cow.
 
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:40 am

MSN 148 CX #20 has been fueled up and is ready for its delivery flight.

https://www.flightradar24.com/CPA3510/f57bc71

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We can also see MSN 149 DL #3 with its final registration. While the delivery flight is scheduled for November, contractual delivery might happen this month.

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MSN 148 CX #20 has been fueled up and is ready for it delivery flight.

leaving at the moment as CX3510. Delivery #56 of the year.
 
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:14 am

MSN 153 (HX#2) returning to TLS post-painting #AIB03NU
 
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:48 am

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MSN 153 (HX#2) returning to TLS post-painting #AIB03NU


MSN 153 after roll out in XFW yesterday:

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Initial engine run for MSN 155 (CX #22) this morning.
 
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MSN 182 DL #7 emerged from final assembly yesterday.

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Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:25 am

MSN 146 LH #6 has been named "Bochum".

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Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:08 pm

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MSN 146 DL #6 has been named "Bochum".

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That should be LH #6 of course!
 
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:23 pm

MSN 60 3U #1 first flight today.

https://fr24.com/AIB01FK/f5840d9

Few close-up photos of the RTO yesterday:

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MSN 60 3U #1 first flight today.

https://fr24.com/AIB01FK/f5840d9

Few close-up photos of the RTO yesterday:

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It looks like the rudder, where it joins to the rest of the tail, needs some paint touch-up...or is this just the photo that makes it look that way?
 
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:14 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 148 CX #20 has been fueled up and is ready for it delivery flight.

leaving at the moment as CX3510. Delivery #56 of the year.


Heard it never made it to the runway and taxied back....
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itisi wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 148 CX #20 has been fueled up and is ready for it delivery flight.

leaving at the moment as CX3510. Delivery #56 of the year.


Heard it never made it to the runway and taxied back....


It's flying over Russia right now.

https://fr24.com/CPA3510/f57bc71
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:32 pm

According to the spreadsheet many of us follow parts for MSN216 - the first ULR have started arriving at TLS. I presume this will have the wing twist and new wing tips. This is a bit earlier into production than I expected.
 
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This is a bit earlier into production than I expected.


It might require additional assembly and testing, hence it is out of sequence.
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:48 pm

Yeah - understand that Karel. There are quite a few changes to test.

Fuel Systems.
Wing Twist + Wing Tip devices,
Max Take off Weight increase.


Do we know when this frame is expected to be delivered?
 
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KarelXWB wrote:
itisi wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
leaving at the moment as CX3510. Delivery #56 of the year.


Heard it never made it to the runway and taxied back....


It's flying over Russia right now.

https://fr24.com/CPA3510/f57bc71


Good news it made it out.
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MSN 154 CX #21 is now visible with final registration, delivery expected in the coming days.

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Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:24 pm

MSN65 XV seems to be flying the same route morning and afternoon out of BAQ. I am syre this is not the most fulfilling flying for the guys and gals on board.
 
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:42 pm

Yes interesting week in BAQ! Same patterns, same altitude, same airspeed, same flight lengths by and large! Love to know what is being validated or proven! I cannot recall anything comparable with the -900. No doubt there is some noble sage that is able to give an informed view? Step forward and speak!
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:27 am

So with 56 A350s delivered this year how is Airbus going to go about building another 44 to meet their 100 aircraft goal? Surely they can't produce and deliver that many in that amount of time.
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:29 am

I think the target was 80.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-airb ... SKBN13K10D

By the way I think that is still a stretch. Mid 70's looks achievable without too much difficulty.
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:33 am

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So with 56 A350s delivered this year how is Airbus going to go about building another 44 to meet their 100 aircraft goal? Surely they can't produce and deliver that many in that amount of time.


there goal was never 100. I heard close to 100 or more than 80.
 
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StTim wrote:
I think the target was 80.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-airb ... SKBN13K10D

By the way I think that is still a stretch. Mid 70's looks achievable without too much difficulty.


My mistake. I always had the impression that they wanted 100 by years end. Even then, 75-80 seems quite hard. If they manage to do it (or try to) I'll be very impressed!
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:40 am

StTim wrote:
I think the target was 80.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-airb ... SKBN13K10D

By the way I think that is still a stretch. Mid 70's looks achievable without too much difficulty.


Another 4 will be handed over before the end of the month, bringing it to 60 with 10 deliveries in October. If Airbus repeats that in November, they will be at 70. Then another 15 or so in December as they did last year as part of the end of the year rush should bring them around 85 deliveries.
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:33 pm

And so it flies: MSN 60 3U #1 first flight on October 27 after its roll out in September.

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First flight Airbus A350 Sichuan Airlines by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

About a year ago it was in storage after SriLankan Airlines canceled its lease contract with the lessor.

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There was even a time when it had SriLankan colors.

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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:27 am

What is the current load rate to the FAL?
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

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tvh wrote:
LoganTheBogan wrote:
So with 56 A350s delivered this year how is Airbus going to go about building another 44 to meet their 100 aircraft goal? Surely they can't produce and deliver that many in that amount of time.


there goal was never 100. I heard close to 100 or more than 80.


Yes, the last target they stated was ‘close to 100’. 80 looks more realistic.

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Latest sneak peek at MSN 88, Qatar's first A350-1000:

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Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:07 pm

So that chaps doing the test flying with MSN65 are having more fun today. Lots of touch and go circuits at Bogota. Fine tuning autoland at altitude?
 
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Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:54 am

MSN 90 QR is gearing up for its 2nd flight.

https://fr24.com/AIB02NT/f5fa12f
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MSN 157 (MK #2) completed its RTO Monday afternoon. First flight scheduled for Tuesday.
 
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MSN 151 (CI #9) departing on its first CAF #AIB04NV
 
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MSN65 departure from BAQ to LDE rather than TLS later today as AIB 351
 
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MSN 154 CX #21 ready for its delivery flight:

https://fr24.com/CPA3590/f629212
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MSN 146 (LH #6) departing on second test flight #AIB02NY
MSN 157 (MK #2) departing on first test flight #AIB01FQ
 
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MSN 154 CX #21 ready for its delivery flight:

https://fr24.com/CPA3590/f629212
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