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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:12 am

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First A350 for Air Caraïbes (MSN82) has been painted and is with engines.

Best looking A350 so far imo. Looking forward to KLM livery though :)
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:09 am

MSN 84 (Singapore Air #11) powered on this morning on the flight line.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:24 pm

MSN 89 (Ethiopian #3) is on a third flight test this afternoon. Should move to the delivery centre shortly.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:48 am

MSN 82 (Air Caraibes #1) powered up this morning on the flight line. Delivery tentatively scheduled for 20th of Feb.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:01 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 82 (Air Caraibes #1) powered up this morning on the flight line. Delivery tentatively scheduled for 20th of Feb.


It seems like the push at the end of last year hasn't affected the stream of frames for this year. There won't be many deliveries in January but it looks like it will pick up for February nicely.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:38 am

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MSN 82 (Air Caraibes #1) powered up this morning on the flight line. Delivery tentatively scheduled for 20th of Feb.

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Any pics of their 10-abreast interior yet?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:31 am

Are we sure of that ?
Ie 10 ab ?
going from 32in pitch to 30in can do the same?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:20 am

Aviaponcho wrote:
Are we sure of that ?
Ie 10 ab ?
going from 32in pitch to 30in can do the same?


Let's hope they don't do both!
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:09 pm

Sure not !
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:59 pm

Aviaponcho wrote:
Are we sure of that ?
Ie 10 ab ?
going from 32in pitch to 30in can do the same?

Its been know for ages now.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:32 pm

Yes, but is still don't want to believe it... :d

The layout is also possible with some decrease in pitch, so i'm still dreaming....
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:47 pm

MSN 70 (Cathay #11) on its first customer acceptance flight.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:17 am

Sorry if I missed the info, but when does TG receive #3?
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:24 am

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Sorry if I missed the info, but when does TG receive #3?


I don't know and I don't think there is a date set yet but it is currently in paint so sometime March/April. TG3 is MSN 95 and 94 is Asiana 1 which is
expected for April while MSN 97, which is Finnair #8, is expected to be delivered in March.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:30 am

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
777Jet wrote:
Sorry if I missed the info, but when does TG receive #3?


I don't know and I don't think there is a date set yet but it is currently in paint so sometime March/April. TG3 is MSN 95 and 94 is Asiana 1 which is
expected for April while MSN 97, which is Finnair #8, is expected to be delivered in March.

https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list


Thank you for that info.

So it seems like a six or so month gap between TG #2 & #3.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:02 pm

MSN 80 LH #2 completed a RTO today. First flight to follow soon.

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And MSN 105 CI #6 emerged from final assembly.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:53 am

MSN 89 (Ethiopian #3) at the delivery centre this morning.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:05 am

MSN 115 DL #1 entered final assembly in Station 50.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:39 am

G'day

LH # 2 msn # 80 readying for its first flight

https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB01NJ/c491d08

Cheers

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:54 pm

WIederling wrote:

Nobody changes wing twist just to ease production. Wing twist is an important aerodynamic factor that is not played with.


Airbus must want the same twist distribution on A350-900 and -1000 wings. Common tooling saves money.

But why didn't they get the twist correct in the first place? Airbus must have a relatively inexpensive way to change twist (they did it on A380 and A330 too), or the A350-900 missed its performance goal by a large margin to warrant this retwist.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:35 pm

Laddie wrote:
Common tooling saves money.

But why didn't they get the twist correct in the first place? Airbus must have a relatively inexpensive way to change twist (they did it on A380 and A330 too), or the A350-900 missed its performance goal by a large margin to warrant this retwist.


Afaik with the A340NG Airbus introduced a cnc controlled jig for wing assembly. ( some interesting articles around on that topic. )
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:57 pm

Heavierthanair wrote:
G'day

LH # 2 msn # 80 readying for its first flight

https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB01NJ/c491d08

Cheers

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:12 pm

N501DN (DAL #1) is undergoing fuselage join. Shouldn't be long to see it.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:05 pm

MSN 52, formally delivered to AerCap in December 2016, was moved away from the delivery centre and joined MSN 60 at the storage area.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:30 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 52, formally delivered to AerCap in December 2016, was moved away from the delivery centre and joined MSN 60 at the storage area.

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Is these two still destined for Sichuan? When is delivery planed?
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:56 pm

What is the current status of the tents Airbus built to facilitate the rework? Are they all still in use?
 
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:05 pm

Thanks Karel.

I presume at some point this year they will start to go. Current frames coming through seem to be taking much less time from post roll out.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:31 pm

StTim wrote:
What is the current status of the tents Airbus built to facilitate the rework? Are they all still in use?


Does anybody know..

- There is still rework going on even they are at around MSN 100 or so. Has there ever been a program (taking the 787 aside) that needed rework for so long? And that on a program that went rather smooth by this centurys standards.
- Is some of todays rework not planed? For example for delayed cabin fit because of short supply?
- Are reworked frames in any form inferior to later frames that didn't need rework? Like lighter, less maintenance,..?
- will they keep at least one tent in case something goes wrong and they need a "surge" station?

And many thanks for one of the best threads by todays standards.. (SCNR)

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:04 pm

Bambel wrote:
- There is still rework going on even they are at around MSN 100 or so. Has there ever been a program (taking the 787 aside) that needed rework for so long? And that on a program that went rather smooth by this centurys standards.


Just to be clear, it's not "rework". The work being done in those tents is called "outstanding work". Due to supply chain shortages, the A350s leave final assembly unfinished and Airbus finishes them in those tents.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:35 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Bambel wrote:
- There is still rework going on even they are at around MSN 100 or so. Has there ever been a program (taking the 787 aside) that needed rework for so long? And that on a program that went rather smooth by this centurys standards.


Just to be clear, it's not "rework". The work being done in those tents is called "outstanding work". Due to supply chain shortages,
the A350s leave final assembly unfinished and Airbus finishes them in those tents.


Is it still seats/cabin furnishing that are being behind delivery schedule or is it something else?
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:45 pm

A330freak wrote:
First A350 for Air Caraïbes (MSN82) has been painted and is with engines.


Thanks for the pictures. Looks stunning. :-)

Does anyone know if these will be configured with 10 abreast in Y?

Air Caraibes has 9 abreast in Y in their A333s, 3-class total of 355 seats. I wonder how many seats they will have in the A350-900?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:29 pm

reidar76 wrote:
A330freak wrote:
First A350 for Air Caraïbes (MSN82) has been painted and is with engines.


Thanks for the pictures. Looks stunning. :-)

Does anyone know if these will be configured with 10 abreast in Y?

Air Caraibes has 9 abreast in Y in their A333s, 3-class total of 355 seats. I wonder how many seats they will have in the A350-900?

Yes it will be 10 abreast and this has been know for ages as I said in my post #1760 above. It will have 389 seats.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:08 pm

MSN 89 ET #3 got its final registration ET-ATY applied.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:18 pm

A fuselage section for MSN 145 Air Mauritius #1 has been spotted at XFW.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:04 pm

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MSN 89 ET #3 got its final registration ET-ATY applied.

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If she takes off today we'll see at least one delivery flight in January, which would be nice. She is squawking her final registration right now. :crossfingers:
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:54 pm

Looks like MSN 72 CX #12 made it to the flight line. Currently visible on FR24.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:29 pm

rbrunner wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 89 ET #3 got its final registration ET-ATY applied.

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If she takes off today we'll see at least one delivery flight in January, which would be nice. She is squawking her final registration right now. :crossfingers:


She is currently at the delivery center so it's possible she could fly home today! :D
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:55 am

MSN 89 (Ethiopian #3) has flown home Jan 31st as ET9201.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:39 am

Still no pics of DL's first? :'(
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:53 am

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MSN 89 (Ethiopian #3) has flown home Jan 31st as ET9201.


Great news! The first A350 ever delivered in January.
While just one delivery in a month is well below the theoretical throughput at this point, we have to remember that the two previous years saw the first delivery in March...
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:07 am

Theseus wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 89 (Ethiopian #3) has flown home Jan 31st as ET9201.


Great news! The first A350 ever delivered in January.
While just one delivery in a month is well below the theoretical throughput at this point, we have to remember that the two previous years saw the first delivery in March...

Indeed, but the output pace is expected to be much higher now than it was in Q1 2016. The backlog of aircraft painted and with cabin installed looks very low now. Airbus really need to pick up the pace this month through the whole chain.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:52 am

There is one A350 at the delivery centre (MSN 70) and another 5 are on the flight line (MSN 47, 72, 80, 82, 84). Looking at recent movements, another 4-5 should move to the flight line in February. A steady output of 5 aircraft per month.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:09 am

That also relates to the relevant firing rate at the time they were loaded from what I see.

It also looks like the firing rate has increased again but difficult to tell.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:12 pm

A delivery flight plan for MSN 70 CX #11 has been filled.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:14 pm

DAL N501DN (DAL #1) is under fuselage join at station 50. We should see one with the Delta tail painted soon after final assembly.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:25 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
A delivery flight plan for MSN 70 CX #11 has been filled.

Airbus A350 -941 70 B-LRK Cathay Pacific delvery 01feb17 TLS-HKG ex F-WWTJ


I guess this will in time be confirmed as a January delivery, on the basis that whilst it don't depart from TLS until February, it will have been accepted by CX and paid for in January
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:59 pm

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That also relates to the relevant firing rate at the time they were loaded from what I see.

It also looks like the firing rate has increased again but difficult to tell.


Pre-assembly is clearly running at 6 per month now. Spirit AeroSystems delivered 19 A350 ship sets in Q4 2016.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:38 pm

Looks like MSN 65 moved under its own power today. First flight should follow soon.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:39 pm

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Looks like MSN 65 moved under its own power today. First flight should follow soon.

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Excellent news! Also I wonder what's going on with the A380 inside the hangar in the background?

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