Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - 2016-2017 (Part 17)

KarelXWB · Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:34 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Also MSN 95 (Thai Airways #3) has made its way to the flightline.

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Thai A350 by Martyn Cartledge ASP Photography, on Flickr

Slug71 · Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:57 pm

Are CX and QR now equal with deliveries?

rufusmi · Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:04 pm

Slug71 wrote:
Are CX and QR now equal with deliveries?

No, QR has 14 of their own birds, plus the leased LATAM birds, of which 2 have been delivered so far.

The A350 currently at the Delivery Center for CX (MSN 85) will be their 13th.

Slug71 · Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:24 pm

Thanks.

Anyone know if the list prices on Wikipedia are accurate?

Mumrik · Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:33 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
sutrakhk wrote:
How about MSN 98? Thanks~

MSN 98 is currently parked at the storage location. Doesn't look like it will go anywhere soon.

Msn98-114-106 19/3/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

Sharklet msn98 19/3/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

Why are the Azul A350 now in storage? Is the order confirmed to be canceled?

Bongodog1964 · Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:38 pm

WIederling wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
audidudi wrote:
I'm still curious to know why some birds come out of the FAL with the complete tail already painted, as the OZ one has in the photo in reply #2070 above, while others including DL's #1 is not?

Only a few paint hangars are capable of painting a sole tail fin. Due to the higher production rate, less and less tails will be painted prior to final assembly.

There was some word around that Airbus would offer "ink-jet printed" airline liveries.
limited to the tailplane or all over. no idea.
does this fit together somehow?

Airbus must have been offering this for some time, as all BA tails are a plastic wrap

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:34 am

Busy morning in Toulouse...
MSN 87 (Lufthansa #3) has been transferred to the delivery centre
MSN 85 (Cathay #13) is on its first CAF
MSN 91 (Air Caraibes #2/Aercap) is on its second CAF

Geoff1947 · Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:22 am

Hopefully 3 or 4 more deliveries this month making 6 or 7 in total.

Geoff

BOAC1966 · Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:35 pm

Of the -1000 only MSN65 doing much work ...her two sisters the heavily instruemented test frames not active and nearly two weeks since MSN59 airborne following VMU tests. Mid term design and software tweaks and hopefully nothing more. MSN65 with cabin fit certainly buzzing around and that is a healthy indicator!

BobMUC · Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:39 pm

Update from Airbus:

"A350-1000 performed ‘High and Warm’ flight test campaign in Latin America"

http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/news-e ... n-america/

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:37 am

MSN 69 (Qatar #15) powered on this morning.
MSN 91 (Air Caraibes #2/Aercap) just had its final regs applied. Delivery flight imminent.

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:01 pm

MSN 87 (Lufthansa #3) performed its first CAF this afternoon.

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:55 pm

A couple first engine runs... yesterday MSN 95 (Thai Airways #3) and today MSN 94 (Asiana #1)

hkcanadaexpat · Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:42 am

MSN 97 (Finnair #8) moved to the DC yesterday and is on its first CAF as we speak.
It also looks like MSN 107 (Singapore #13/14?) made it to the flight line yesterday and powered on. It is again active today. Weird though as it seems to have jumped MSN 99 in the process which is unheard of as far as the Singapore Airlines frames have gone. I haven't seen a picture yet so I reserve judgement until visual confirmation is to be had but it is active on FR.

StTim · Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:10 am

MSN97 confused me as they have started recycling previous A350 test registrations. You are right it it on line at the flightline.

TheGeordielad · Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:46 am

I heard Lucky Air will take delivery of A350s next year.Does anyone know how many they are getting?

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:17 am

MSN 96 (Singapore #12) joined the others at the DC yesterday. 5x A350s at the DC in the last week of March!

audidudi · Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:06 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 91 (Air Caraibes #2/Aercap) just had its final regs applied. Delivery flight imminent.

She was delivered today March 27th.

bycac · Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:04 pm

RTO done FF tomorrow !!

BOAC1966 · Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:24 pm

-1000 in Istres over last three days and the other now down in Seville .....wet engine ingestion and noise tests? MSN59 still remains out of the programme ....now 17 days? Interesting to know when AB give an update.

JoergAtADN · Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:59 pm

Bongodog1964 wrote:
WIederling wrote:
There was some word around that Airbus would offer "ink-jet printed" airline liveries.
limited to the tailplane or all over. no idea.
does this fit together somehow?

Airbus must have been offering this for some time, as all BA tails are a plastic wrap

This has nothing todo with wraping, the Airbus Ink-Jet-Printer prints directly on the aircraft surface. The coating has the surface quality and weight of an airbrushed paintwork, but it can apply reproducible high resolution full coloured pictures on the tailfin.

AFAIK this is only available for the A320 family now.

StTim · Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:00 pm

MSN #103 ET4 is online at the flightline tonight.

hkcanadaexpat · Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:45 am

bycac wrote:
RTO done FF tomorrow !!

RTO also completed for MSN 95 (Thai #3) on Monday.

scotron11 · Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:09 am

bycac wrote:
RTO done FF tomorrow !!

That is a great looking aircraft!

gloom · Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:58 am

FWZNX squawking at TLS, so MSN93 powered up.

Cheers,
Adam

hkcanadaexpat · Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:11 am

MSN 96 (Singapore Air #12) getting ready for first CAF (AIB03FG)
MSN 95 (Thai Airways #3) getting ready for first flight (AIB01NZ)

Bongodog1964 · Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:34 am

JoergAtADN wrote:
Bongodog1964 wrote:
WIederling wrote:
There was some word around that Airbus would offer "ink-jet printed" airline liveries.
limited to the tailplane or all over. no idea.
does this fit together somehow?

Airbus must have been offering this for some time, as all BA tails are a plastic wrap

This has nothing todo with wraping, the Airbus Ink-Jet-Printer prints directly on the aircraft surface. The coating has the surface quality and weight of an airbrushed paintwork, but it can apply reproducible high resolution full coloured pictures on the tailfin.

AFAIK this is only available for the A320 family now.

Great idea in theory, didn't realise it was ink jet direct onto the fin, rather than a plastic film. What however happens in 5 years time when a repaint is due, take the fin off, and send it to an ink jet facility or revert to traditional methods ?

KarelXWB · Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:18 am

Quite a busy delivery centre... lots of widebody aircraft awaiting Q1 delivery push.

Delivery Center 24/3/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:19 am

StTim wrote:
MSN #103 ET4 is online at the flightline tonight.

Still unpainted AFAIK.

KarelXWB · Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:29 am

The A350-1000 completed its high energy RTO:

Successful High Energy Rejected Take Off for the #A350-1000 showing good braking performance of the 6-wheel MLG architecture, as expected.

https://twitter.com/Airbus/status/846646207824957440

ap305 · Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:09 am

Thanks for that karel- This could suggest that flutter etc are already done as historically the high energy rto is the final of the major tests to be done.

StTim · Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:28 am

I presume the MAx energy RTO was done this week at Istres!

KarelXWB · Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:37 am

ap305 wrote:
Thanks for that karel- This could suggest that flutter etc are already done as historically the high energy rto is the final of the major tests to be done.

It was just a high energy RTO, the maximum energy RTO should be done at the end of the test campaign.

ap305 · Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:45 am

Oops-got the two mixed up. IIRC the high energy rto is required to be done before carrying volunteers in the cabin equipped aircraft.

KarelXWB · Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:05 am

MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.

Msn112 27/3/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:23 pm

MSN 94 OZ #1 first flight today:

https://fr24.com/AIB01NY/ce0baa9

1st flight Airbus A350 Asiana Airlines by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

BOAC1966 · Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:15 pm

Thank hou for updates Karel. Any indications where MSN59 is currently located in TLS?

BOAC1966 · Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:18 pm

Looks as -1000 noise footprint test have started this evening in Seville OZP

Quint1 · Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:54 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 94 OZ #1 first flight today:

https://fr24.com/AIB01NY/ce0baa9

1st flight Airbus A350 Asiana Airlines by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

What a stunner, best looking A350 so far IMO.
Thanks for the photo

KarelXWB · Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:55 pm

Looks like MSN 85, 87 and 96 have been handed over to the customer, aircraft are visible with their final registrations:

Delivery Center 27/3/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

Singapore A350-941 msn 096 by dn280tls, on Flickr

Lufthansa A350 MSN 87 by RomainC82, on Flickr

ZEDZAG · Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:52 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.

So now we have MSN 52 55 60 that are UL ntu and lately 98 and 112 that are stored.

Are any of these frames furnished? The UL frames are owned by Aercap? What about Azul ones?

MD80MKE · Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:00 pm

ZEDZAG wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.

So now we have MSN 52 55 60 that are UL ntu and lately 98 and 112 that are stored.

Are any of these frames furnished? The UL frames are owned by Aercap? What about Azul ones?

I believe 52 and 55 have officially belonged to Aercap since December last year. They will be handed over to Sichuan hopefully soon depending on the new type certification on Chinese side. 98 and 112 are taken over by HNA group and rumored to go to Capital Airlines. And the remainders of the Azul NTUs should also go to one of the subsidiaries of the HNA Group.

KarelXWB · Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:01 pm

ZEDZAG wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.

So now we have MSN 52 55 60 that are UL ntu and lately 98 and 112 that are stored.

Are any of these frames furnished? The UL frames are owned by Aercap? What about Azul ones?

MSN 98 and 112 will eventually go to HNA Group.

MSN 52 and 55 do have a cabin.

MSN 60 was never finished and delivered. This may still happen at the end of the year.

Geoff1947 · Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:43 pm

ZEDZAG wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.

So now we have MSN 52 55 60 that are UL ntu and lately 98 and 112 that are stored.

Are any of these frames furnished? The UL frames are owned by Aercap? What about Azul ones?

All are expected to enter service with Chinese airlines before the end of 2017.

Geoff

gatibosgru · Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:27 am

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.

Msn112 27/3/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

Might be OT, but does AD intend to take their A359s back from QR when they're done to operate or will they go to someone else?

hkcanadaexpat · Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:06 am

gatibosgru wrote:
Might be OT, but does AD intend to take their A359s back from QR when they're done to operate or will they go to someone else?

The QR frames are actually owned by JJ not AD. And yes they will go back to JJ post dry lease. The 4 frames have 6-12 month leases.

hkcanadaexpat · Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:47 am

MSN 99 (Singapore #13 or 14) is out on the flightline this morning. This is the 5th roll out in the last 5 days and 9th during the month of March.

StTim · Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:04 am

Some are hitting the flightline unpainted. Do they have engines? If so it seems the paint hangers are becoming critical path. Perhaps they will fly some to another facility for painting.

KarelXWB · Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:37 am

Yes they do have engines. Some aircraft are painted after cabin/engine fit and move to the flight line afterwards.

BOAC1966 · Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:24 am

Nice to see MSN59 back at work with her two sisters!

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