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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:19 pm

And MSN 96 SQ #12 is airborne on its 2nd flight:

https://fr24.com/AIB02FG/cd13b37
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:34 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Also MSN 95 (Thai Airways #3) has made its way to the flightline.


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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:57 pm

Are CX and QR now equal with deliveries?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:04 pm

Slug71 wrote:
Are CX and QR now equal with deliveries?


No, QR has 14 of their own birds, plus the leased LATAM birds, of which 2 have been delivered so far.

The A350 currently at the Delivery Center for CX (MSN 85) will be their 13th.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:24 pm

Thanks.

Anyone know if the list prices on Wikipedia are accurate?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:33 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
sutrakhk wrote:
How about MSN 98? Thanks~


MSN 98 is currently parked at the storage location. Doesn't look like it will go anywhere soon.

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Msn98-114-106 19/3/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

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Sharklet msn98 19/3/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


Why are the Azul A350 now in storage? Is the order confirmed to be canceled?
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:38 pm

WIederling wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
audidudi wrote:
I'm still curious to know why some birds come out of the FAL with the complete tail already painted, as the OZ one has in the photo in reply #2070 above, while others including DL's #1 is not?


Only a few paint hangars are capable of painting a sole tail fin. Due to the higher production rate, less and less tails will be painted prior to final assembly.


There was some word around that Airbus would offer "ink-jet printed" airline liveries.
limited to the tailplane or all over. no idea.
does this fit together somehow?


Airbus must have been offering this for some time, as all BA tails are a plastic wrap
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:34 am

Busy morning in Toulouse...
MSN 87 (Lufthansa #3) has been transferred to the delivery centre
MSN 85 (Cathay #13) is on its first CAF
MSN 91 (Air Caraibes #2/Aercap) is on its second CAF
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:22 am

Hopefully 3 or 4 more deliveries this month making 6 or 7 in total.

Geoff
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:35 pm

Of the -1000 only MSN65 doing much work ...her two sisters the heavily instruemented test frames not active and nearly two weeks since MSN59 airborne following VMU tests. Mid term design and software tweaks and hopefully nothing more. MSN65 with cabin fit certainly buzzing around and that is a healthy indicator!
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:39 pm

Update from Airbus:

"A350-1000 performed ‘High and Warm’ flight test campaign in Latin America"

http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/news-e ... n-america/

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:37 am

MSN 69 (Qatar #15) powered on this morning.
MSN 91 (Air Caraibes #2/Aercap) just had its final regs applied. Delivery flight imminent.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:01 pm

MSN 87 (Lufthansa #3) performed its first CAF this afternoon.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:55 pm

A couple first engine runs... yesterday MSN 95 (Thai Airways #3) and today MSN 94 (Asiana #1)
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:42 am

MSN 97 (Finnair #8) moved to the DC yesterday and is on its first CAF as we speak.
It also looks like MSN 107 (Singapore #13/14?) made it to the flight line yesterday and powered on. It is again active today. Weird though as it seems to have jumped MSN 99 in the process which is unheard of as far as the Singapore Airlines frames have gone. I haven't seen a picture yet so I reserve judgement until visual confirmation is to be had but it is active on FR.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:10 am

MSN97 confused me as they have started recycling previous A350 test registrations. You are right it it on line at the flightline.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:46 am

I heard Lucky Air will take delivery of A350s next year.Does anyone know how many they are getting?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:17 am

MSN 96 (Singapore #12) joined the others at the DC yesterday. 5x A350s at the DC in the last week of March!
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:06 pm

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MSN 91 (Air Caraibes #2/Aercap) just had its final regs applied. Delivery flight imminent.

She was delivered today March 27th.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:04 pm

RTO done FF tomorrow !!

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:24 pm

-1000 in Istres over last three days and the other now down in Seville .....wet engine ingestion and noise tests? MSN59 still remains out of the programme ....now 17 days? Interesting to know when AB give an update.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:59 pm

Bongodog1964 wrote:
WIederling wrote:
There was some word around that Airbus would offer "ink-jet printed" airline liveries.
limited to the tailplane or all over. no idea.
does this fit together somehow?


Airbus must have been offering this for some time, as all BA tails are a plastic wrap


This has nothing todo with wraping, the Airbus Ink-Jet-Printer prints directly on the aircraft surface. The coating has the surface quality and weight of an airbrushed paintwork, but it can apply reproducible high resolution full coloured pictures on the tailfin.

AFAIK this is only available for the A320 family now.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:00 pm

MSN #103 ET4 is online at the flightline tonight.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:45 am

bycac wrote:
RTO done FF tomorrow !!
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RTO also completed for MSN 95 (Thai #3) on Monday.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:09 am

bycac wrote:
RTO done FF tomorrow !!

Image



That is a great looking aircraft!
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:58 am

FWZNX squawking at TLS, so MSN93 powered up.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:11 am

MSN 96 (Singapore Air #12) getting ready for first CAF (AIB03FG)
MSN 95 (Thai Airways #3) getting ready for first flight (AIB01NZ)
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:34 am

JoergAtADN wrote:
Bongodog1964 wrote:
WIederling wrote:
There was some word around that Airbus would offer "ink-jet printed" airline liveries.
limited to the tailplane or all over. no idea.
does this fit together somehow?


Airbus must have been offering this for some time, as all BA tails are a plastic wrap


This has nothing todo with wraping, the Airbus Ink-Jet-Printer prints directly on the aircraft surface. The coating has the surface quality and weight of an airbrushed paintwork, but it can apply reproducible high resolution full coloured pictures on the tailfin.

AFAIK this is only available for the A320 family now.


Great idea in theory, didn't realise it was ink jet direct onto the fin, rather than a plastic film. What however happens in 5 years time when a repaint is due, take the fin off, and send it to an ink jet facility or revert to traditional methods ?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:18 am

Quite a busy delivery centre... lots of widebody aircraft awaiting Q1 delivery push.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:19 am

StTim wrote:
MSN #103 ET4 is online at the flightline tonight.


Still unpainted AFAIK.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:29 am

The A350-1000 completed its high energy RTO:

Successful High Energy Rejected Take Off for the #A350-1000 showing good braking performance of the 6-wheel MLG architecture, as expected.


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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:09 am

Thanks for that karel- This could suggest that flutter etc are already done as historically the high energy rto is the final of the major tests to be done.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:28 am

I presume the MAx energy RTO was done this week at Istres!
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:37 am

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Thanks for that karel- This could suggest that flutter etc are already done as historically the high energy rto is the final of the major tests to be done.


It was just a high energy RTO, the maximum energy RTO should be done at the end of the test campaign.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:45 am

Oops-got the two mixed up. IIRC the high energy rto is required to be done before carrying volunteers in the cabin equipped aircraft.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:05 am

MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.

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Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:23 pm

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:15 pm

Thank hou for updates Karel. Any indications where MSN59 is currently located in TLS?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:18 pm

Looks as -1000 noise footprint test have started this evening in Seville OZP
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:54 pm

KarelXWB wrote:


What a stunner, best looking A350 so far IMO.
Thanks for the photo
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:55 pm

Looks like MSN 85, 87 and 96 have been handed over to the customer, aircraft are visible with their final registrations:

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:52 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.


So now we have MSN 52 55 60 that are UL ntu and lately 98 and 112 that are stored.

Are any of these frames furnished? The UL frames are owned by Aercap? What about Azul ones?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:00 pm

ZEDZAG wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.


So now we have MSN 52 55 60 that are UL ntu and lately 98 and 112 that are stored.

Are any of these frames furnished? The UL frames are owned by Aercap? What about Azul ones?

I believe 52 and 55 have officially belonged to Aercap since December last year. They will be handed over to Sichuan hopefully soon depending on the new type certification on Chinese side. 98 and 112 are taken over by HNA group and rumored to go to Capital Airlines. And the remainders of the Azul NTUs should also go to one of the subsidiaries of the HNA Group.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:01 pm

ZEDZAG wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.


So now we have MSN 52 55 60 that are UL ntu and lately 98 and 112 that are stored.

Are any of these frames furnished? The UL frames are owned by Aercap? What about Azul ones?


MSN 98 and 112 will eventually go to HNA Group.

MSN 52 and 55 do have a cabin.

MSN 60 was never finished and delivered. This may still happen at the end of the year.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:43 pm

ZEDZAG wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.


So now we have MSN 52 55 60 that are UL ntu and lately 98 and 112 that are stored.

Are any of these frames furnished? The UL frames are owned by Aercap? What about Azul ones?


All are expected to enter service with Chinese airlines before the end of 2017.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:27 am

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 112 AD #2 entered storage, just like MSN 98 AD #1.

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Msn112 27/3/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


Might be OT, but does AD intend to take their A359s back from QR when they're done to operate or will they go to someone else?
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:06 am

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Might be OT, but does AD intend to take their A359s back from QR when they're done to operate or will they go to someone else?

The QR frames are actually owned by JJ not AD. And yes they will go back to JJ post dry lease. The 4 frames have 6-12 month leases.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:47 am

MSN 99 (Singapore #13 or 14) is out on the flightline this morning. This is the 5th roll out in the last 5 days and 9th during the month of March.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:04 am

Some are hitting the flightline unpainted. Do they have engines? If so it seems the paint hangers are becoming critical path. Perhaps they will fly some to another facility for painting.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:37 am

Yes they do have engines. Some aircraft are painted after cabin/engine fit and move to the flight line afterwards.
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