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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:12 pm

MSN 86 (Vietnam #7) preparing for first flight.
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¿Someone know the delivery IB A350 dates?

First two will be delivered in H2-2018.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:56 pm

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MSN71 3rd -1000 test frame is heading north on a test flight. Polar navigation test?

Or destination CYFB (Iqaluit) for tests under low temperatures ?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:16 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 86 (Vietnam #7) preparing for first flight.


In the air now
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:07 pm

Iqaluit weather lovely at -31c for cold weather testing!
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:48 pm

Airbus on Twitter:

There's no place like Iqaluit, Canada to test our #A350-1000 under extreme cold conditions!Let's kick off a series of tests at around -30°C!


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http://twitter.com/Airbus/status/834094757257289732
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:38 pm

Looks like the -1000 testing is moving at pace. I saw the test vehicle that went to Hamburg on line today but didn't see if it flew home.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:19 pm

Looks like MSN85 is on line this evening at the flightline
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:30 am

MSN 47 QR #14 got its final registration applied, delivery should be imminent.

Also visible are MSN 80 (LH #2), MSN 82 (TX #1) and MSN 84 (SQ #11).

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:33 pm

Delivery of MSN47, 14th to Qatar

Airbus A350 -941 47 A7-ALN Qatar Airways delivery 22feb17 TLS-DOH


Finally a "low" MSN to Qatar is delivered
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:36 pm

According fr24 MSN #92 just performed an RTO (at 18:31 CET)
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:26 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Delivery of MSN47, 14th to Qatar

Airbus A350 -941 47 A7-ALN Qatar Airways delivery 22feb17 TLS-DOH


Finally a "low" MSN to Qatar is delivered


Next Qatar delivery should be MSN 69, which is about to enter the paint shop.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:29 pm

MSN 80 LH #2 got its final registration applied, suggesting delivery is imminent:

https://twitter.com/lufthansaNews/statu ... 6570725380
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:35 pm

That would take us to 3 with two more close to ready. So that would make 5 in Feb.

There are another 5 already on the flightline and which should be ready for March Deliveries.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:39 pm

StTim wrote:
There are another 5 already on the flightline and which should be ready for March Deliveries.


Another 3 should roll out soon (MSN 87, 96 and 97).
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:45 pm

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According fr24 MSN #92 just performed an RTO (at 18:31 CET)


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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:50 pm

I have 72, 85, 86, 92 and 97 showing as being on the flightline.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:55 pm

Well MSN 97 was in paint so it may have been rolled out, and MSN 96 is also in paint and was not much behind MSN 97. We should see it soon.

MSN 94 (OZ #1) also entered paint and should roll out in 2-3 weeks or so.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:13 pm

How many paint hangers are there in Toulouse? I see some 320's get ferried somewhere else for painting and the 380's are all done in Hamburg.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:18 pm

There are currently 5 A350 compatible paint hangars (C33, C35, C39, L07, L08) and a 6th (L09) is currently being constructed. But I believe one of the Cxx hangars will be retired soon.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:05 pm

Some photos of MSN 115, Delta's first A350:

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:55 pm

Awesome! Thanks I love the winglet
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:19 pm

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Awesome! Thanks I love the winglet

Me too. Is this the first widebody to have the widget on the winglet?! Can't recall off hand.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:28 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 80 LH #2 got its final registration applied, suggesting delivery is imminent:

https://twitter.com/lufthansaNews/statu ... 6570725380

Yes, according to LH, it will be flown to MUC on Friday.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:12 am

Winglets installed on N501DN (DAL#1)........Look nice...just like the tail
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:19 am

LAX772LR wrote:
dtwpilot225 wrote:
Awesome! Thanks I love the winglet

Me too. Is this the first widebody to have the widget on the winglet?! Can't recall off hand.


Yes, it sure is (first in general, I believe). It's beautiful :bigthumbsup: :cloudnine:
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:08 am

Well done delta and airbus. This plane is going to be amazing
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:37 am

KarelXWB wrote:
Well MSN 97 was in paint so it may have been rolled out, and MSN 96 is also in paint and was not much behind MSN 97. We should see it soon.

MSN 94 (OZ #1) also entered paint and should roll out in 2-3 weeks or so.


How about MSN 98? Thanks~
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:42 am

Hi Karel, some very interesting updates. Just to appease my curiosity; the Delta frame you've posted the photo of, at what point of the build process is this currently up to? And how far away is it say from RTO testing for example?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:13 am

MSN 91 TX #2 has rolled out to the flight line.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:27 am

MSN 84 SQ #11 is online with final registration 9V-SMK, should fly home shortly.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:07 am

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That would take us to 3 with two more close to ready. So that would make 5 in Feb.

There are another 5 already on the flightline and which should be ready for March Deliveries.

It is great to see the production picking pace up but Airbus is still behind delivery schedule. All frames delivered is currently about one month behind schedule and it means airlines has to cover up in their fleet by other solutions. For example Finnair missed their Q4 revenue target due to expensive wet lease of aircraft to cover for delayed A350 last year. Airbus and its suppliers still has alot of catching up to do.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:20 am

Asiaflyer wrote:
StTim wrote:
That would take us to 3 with two more close to ready. So that would make 5 in Feb.

There are another 5 already on the flightline and which should be ready for March Deliveries.

It is great to see the production picking pace up but Airbus is still behind delivery schedule. All frames delivered is currently about one month behind schedule and it means airlines has to cover up in their fleet by other solutions. For example Finnair missed their Q4 revenue target due to expensive wet lease of aircraft to cover for delayed A350 last year. Airbus and its suppliers still has alot of catching up to do.


I agree they are still behind but there are clear indications that they are getting on top of it. I still think they will deliver 5 in Feb and there will be at least 7 on the flightline at the start of March. Many of those will have had first flights. Airbus are not yet out of the woods but there are clear signs that they are near the edge of that wood - although there may still be some surprises along the way.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:16 am

MSN 92 CI #5 first flight today:

https://fr24.com/AIB01NV/c8bbb00
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:30 am

The main problem seems still to be cabin equipment like seats and toilets being late.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:42 am

As per Airbus CEO, the cabin equipment is "under control". We are clearly seeing some result: MSN 91 entered cabin fit around half of January and has just rolled out to the flight line.

Outstanding work has also decreased significantly: MSN 107 and 109 spend about 1 week in one of those tents at the A380 site and are already undergoing cabin fit. The A350-900s will soon move from P18 straight into paint or cabin fit.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:55 am

I suspect those tents will be used for the initial -1000's.

Agree the production line flow is looking much healthier. A draw down on the backlog and new frames progressing more quickly could make a big impact on deliveries this year.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:11 pm

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That will be one good looking plane. Looking forward to the roll-out !
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:25 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
As per Airbus CEO, the cabin equipment is "under control". We are clearly seeing some result: MSN 91 entered cabin fit around half of January and has just rolled out to the flight line.

Outstanding work has also decreased significantly: MSN 107 and 109 spend about 1 week in one of those tents at the A380 site and are already undergoing cabin fit. The A350-900s will soon move from P18 straight into paint or cabin fit.

Is cabin equipment still holding delivery of QRs A350 back, or is the chemistry between Airbus and AAB still a hurdle?
I for one thought QR had orderd more than they could chew, but the lease of LATAMs A350 indicates they actually are short of aricraft.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:29 pm

Asiaflyer wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
As per Airbus CEO, the cabin equipment is "under control". We are clearly seeing some result: MSN 91 entered cabin fit around half of January and has just rolled out to the flight line.

Outstanding work has also decreased significantly: MSN 107 and 109 spend about 1 week in one of those tents at the A380 site and are already undergoing cabin fit. The A350-900s will soon move from P18 straight into paint or cabin fit.

Is cabin equipment still holding delivery of QRs A350 back, or is the chemistry between Airbus and AAB still a hurdle?
I for one thought QR had orderd more than they could chew, but the lease of LATAMs A350 indicates they actually are short of aricraft.


Leasing from a subsidiary may actually be cheaper and less straining the balance sheet than taking up a new aircraft and starting to pay installments to the manufacturer ;)

On the other hand, if the LATAM cabin stays in, perhaps QR wants to experiment with a Y+ product ?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:43 pm

Asiaflyer wrote:
Is cabin equipment still holding delivery of QRs A350 back, or is the chemistry between Airbus and AAB still a hurdle?
I for one thought QR had orderd more than they could chew, but the lease of LATAMs A350 indicates they actually are short of aricraft.


It was suggested earlier (or in another thread) that QR itself may be delaying delivery a bit, as it is going to deploy a new C class product. Not sure it was confirmed though.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:26 pm

MSN 87 LH #3 has rolled out to the flight line.

https://fr24.com/FWZNQ/c8b9d0c
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:49 pm

Wow it looks like the TLS flight line and delivery center are pretty packed right now. Glad to see airbus going all out this early of a year.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:50 am

MSN 80 LH #2 delivery flight to MUC:

https://fr24.com/DLH9921/c8df5be

Airbus A350 -941 80 D-AIXB Lufthansa delivery 24feb17 TLS-MUC ex F-WZNJ


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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:57 am

Theseus wrote:
Asiaflyer wrote:
Is cabin equipment still holding delivery of QRs A350 back, or is the chemistry between Airbus and AAB still a hurdle?
I for one thought QR had orderd more than they could chew, but the lease of LATAMs A350 indicates they actually are short of aricraft.


It was suggested earlier (or in another thread) that QR itself may be delaying delivery a bit, as it is going to deploy a new C class product. Not sure it was confirmed though.


Certainly QR frames are taking much longer to deliver than any other airline. They are forming quite a logjam in TLS so there must be something customer specific holding things up.

Geoff
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:47 pm

MSN #65 F-WWLXV seems to be performing a "Scandinavian tour" https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB07XV/c8e2d10 .
It already performed such a tour on last wednesday. As she is with a full equiped cabin are those flights reserved for Airbus teams, before an ELF campaign ?
Is the programme allready so far advanced ?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:23 pm

Based on current flight paths it seems the A350-1000 program will soon move out of the "initial development" phase.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:27 pm

By the looks of it the Cold Campaign takes place after the initial stage.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:52 pm

N501DN (DAL#1) is on outdoor ground test on station P18.......getting closer
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:20 pm

MSN 84 SQ #11 is heading home today:

Airbus A350 -941 84 9V-SMK Singapore Airlines delivery 25feb17 TLS-SIN ex F-WZNN
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:07 pm

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MSN 47 QR #14 got its final registration applied, delivery should be imminent.


Did it fly home ? According to the Google spreadsheet, it is still showing "Ready for delivery".

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