Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - 2016-2017 (Part 17)

ap305 · Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:17 pm

and msn 216 is...... the first ulr.

Slug71 · Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:52 pm

ap305 wrote:
Apparently all we need to do is look at Airbus job opportunities in order to find out future developments....

http://company.airbus.com/careers/jobs- ... D90C~.html

Upcoming key business milestones come from the introduction of MSN 216 wing twist MOD, Rate 13 ramp up and a Wing equipping of the future project

So sounds like the updated wing twist on the -900 will start from MSN 216. Thanks for sharing. Have been wondering when this will be introduced.
Are parts for this frame already in production?

Stitch · Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:29 pm

ap305 wrote:
and msn 216 is...... the first ulr.

Is this a fact or just speculation? I ask because the ULR does not need a wing twist for the extra fuel tankage (the increase is all in the center tank), so if the first ULR is MSN 216, it's probably just a coincidence that Airbus is integrating the twist with that MSN.

ap305 · Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:38 pm

The unofficial a350 production list says it is so take it for what its worth. The twist appears to be part of the fuel burn reduction that comes with the ULR...part of it is the engine and the balance is from aero improvement.

Stitch · Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:53 pm

ap305 wrote:
The unofficial a350 production list says it is so take it for what its worth. The twist appears to be part of the fuel burn reduction that comes with the ULR...part of it is the engine and the balance is from aero improvement.

I would expect all A350-900s after MSN 216 to get the wing twist and engine improvements, not just the ULRs for SQ.

ap305 · Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:58 pm

I remember reading that the normal a350's get these changes along with the 280t weight increase sometime in 2019 or 2020

KarelXWB · Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:27 pm

MSN 140 SQ #18 is online with final registration, delivery imminent.

KarelXWB · Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:36 pm

MSN 148 CX #20 emerged from paint in XFW.

Cathay Pacific A350 by Michel Fetzer, on Flickr

airnorth · Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:29 pm

I would expect all A350-900s after MSN 216 to get the wing twist and engine improvements, not just the ULRs for SQ.[/quote]

This is probably an odd question, but what exactly is the wing twist without getting too technical? Do they change the fuselage/wingbox mating to twist the wing, or is the wing different? This might be a tech-op question.

KarelXWB · Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:29 am

MSN 88 has been on the move this morning.

1st Airbus A350-1000 Qatar Airways A7-ANA by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

mjoelnir · Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:33 am

airnorth wrote:
I would expect all A350-900s after MSN 216 to get the wing twist and engine improvements, not just the ULRs for SQ.

This is probably an odd question, but what exactly is the wing twist without getting too technical? Do they change the fuselage/wingbox mating to twist the wing, or is the wing different? This might be a tech-op question.[/quote]

They change the wing. The wing could be changed differently on different parts of the wing.

KarelXWB · Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:43 pm

MSN 76 QR is heading for another CAF:

https://fr24.com/AIB08NE/f0aa4a8

BOAC1966 · Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:55 pm

Well slow week in -1000 test programme a couple of circuits in SVQ(a/c been several days wonder why?)and short trip in France ... need to step up pace!

KarelXWB · Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:57 pm

Delivery flight for MSN 137 has been filled:

Airbus A350 -941 137 B-LRT Cathay Pacific delivery 29sep17 TLS-HKG ex F-WZNF

Slug71 · Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:48 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 88 has been on the move this morning.

1st Airbus A350-1000 Qatar Airways A7-ANA by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

Going for engine fit?

audidudi · Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:17 pm

Slug71 wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 88 has been on the move this morning.

1st Airbus A350-1000 Qatar Airways A7-ANA by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

Going for engine fit?

Or cabin fit, unless that's already been done? Does a fully painted bird necessarily mean that the cabin has been installed also?

MD80MKE · Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:28 pm

audidudi wrote:
Slug71 wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 88 has been on the move this morning.

1st Airbus A350-1000 Qatar Airways A7-ANA by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

Going for engine fit?

Or cabin fit, unless that's already been done? Does a fully painted bird necessarily mean that the cabin has been installed also?

Not necessarily.

Stitch · Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:33 pm

audidudi wrote:
Does a fully painted bird necessarily mean that the cabin has been installed also?

For Boeing, it does not. I've seen them install seats on both unpainted and fully-painted birds. I expect it is the same with Airbus.

Slug71 · Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:02 pm

audidudi wrote:
Slug71 wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 88 has been on the move this morning.

1st Airbus A350-1000 Qatar Airways A7-ANA by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

Going for engine fit?

Or cabin fit, unless that's already been done? Does a fully painted bird necessarily mean that the cabin has been installed also?

This is from posts #3376, #3377, #3385

KarelXWB wrote:
Slug71 wrote:
Has it already been for cabin fit?

BOEING777EK wrote:
Yep.

Partly. MSN 88 was in cabin fit for ~ 2 months. Plane is now back at Station 20 to finish up the cabin.

So cabin fit should be complete. So it's either leaving Station 20 after completion or going for engines.

KarelXWB · Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:49 pm

MSN 140 SQ #18 is in the air right now, heading home to SIN.

Airbus A350 -941 140 9V-SMR Singapore Airlines delivery 29sep17 TLS-SIN ex F-WZND

Richard28 · Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:59 pm

Slug71 wrote:
audidudi wrote:
Slug71 wrote:
So cabin fit should be complete. So it's either leaving Station 20 after completion or going for engines.

Are QR birds now leaving assembly with the new J class product, to is it still the old one?

itisi · Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:33 pm

B-LRT is on the way home

KarelXWB · Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:37 am

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 76 QR is heading for another CAF:

https://fr24.com/AIB08NE/f0aa4a8

AIB08NE was delayed and performed today.

AIB08NE msn76 30/9/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

StTim · Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:18 am

So 50 delivered so far this year with 3 months left to go. What was the target?

Eyad89 · Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:37 am

StTim wrote:
So 50 delivered so far this year with 3 months left to go. What was the target?

80.

That means they will have to go for 10 frames per month.

KarelXWB · Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:37 am

MSN 148 CX #20 has been ferried back to TLS after paint in XFW.

Cathay Pacific A350-941 msn 148 by dn280tls, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:41 am

Eyad89 wrote:
That means they will have to go for 10 frames per month.

That's not how it works.

More likely we will be seeing another 7 deliveries in October and November each, and a big delivery push of 15+ aircraft in December.

KennyK · Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:02 pm

Airbus managed 10 deliveries this month (https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... deliveries) so another 30 in 3 months would appear possible. Don't forget there are 3 airframes (MSN 52, 55 and 60) the NTU SriLankan Airlines that are due to go to Sichuan Airlines, would be nice to know progress there. Also several Qatar Airways airframes that are awaiting correctly orientated carpet fibres ;-)

that are also due delivery some time, you never know, Airbus might just break the 80 airframes for the year.

Heavierthanair · Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:18 pm

G'day

KennyK wrote:
Qatar Airways airframes that are awaiting correctly orientated carpet fibres

Presumably the fibres are aligned to point to Mecca. Err..... just realized that's in Saudi Arabia i.e. in enemy territory, so maybe the fibres are now being aligned the other way. Realigning the fibres could well be the reason for some of the Qatar delivery delays
:white:

Cheers

Peter

Bricktop · Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:23 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 88 has been on the move this morning.

1st Airbus A350-1000 Qatar Airways A7-ANA by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

Very nice looking airplane. The stretch certainly benefits the aesthetics over the 359.

Geoff1947 · Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:34 pm

Don’t know if Airbus will count either of the QR frames at the delivery centre as delivered. Putting those aside, I make it 49 so far in 2017 with 6 in August. The spreadsheet counts three frames in September that Airbus counted as August. MSNs 52 and 55 were counted as 2017 by Airbus. Latest Airbus forecast for 2017 deliveries , as I recall, was ‘nearly a 100’, which looks very challenging.

Geoff

KarelXWB · Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:10 pm

Geoff1947 wrote:
Don’t know if Airbus will count either of the QR frames at the delivery centre as delivered. Putting those aside, I make it 49 so far in 2017 with 6 in August. The spreadsheet counts three frames in September that Airbus counted as August. MSNs 52 and 55 were counted as 2017 by Airbus. Latest Airbus forecast for 2017 deliveries , as I recall, was ‘nearly a 100’, which looks very challenging.

Geoff

There is so much wrong with this post, I don't even know where to begin.

- So far 50 aircraft have been delivered, without the QR aircraft at the delivery centre.
- Delivery sheet shows 7 deliveries in August, not 6.
- MSN 52 and 55 were counted as 2016 by Airbus, not 2017.

Geoff1947 · Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:16 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Geoff1947 wrote:
Don’t know if Airbus will count either of the QR frames at the delivery centre as delivered. Putting those aside, I make it 49 so far in 2017 with 6 in August. The spreadsheet counts three frames in September that Airbus counted as August. MSNs 52 and 55 were counted as 2017 by Airbus. Latest Airbus forecast for 2017 deliveries , as I recall, was ‘nearly a 100’, which looks very challenging.

Geoff

There is so much wrong with this post, I don't even know where to begin.

- So far 50 aircraft have been delivered, without the QR aircraft at the delivery centre.
- Delivery sheet shows 7 deliveries in August, not 6.
- MSN 52 and 55 were counted as 2016 by Airbus, not 2017.

Oops sorry for the errors, thanks for the corrections.

Geoff

Geoff1947 · Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:27 pm

Geoff1947 wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
Geoff1947 wrote:
Don’t know if Airbus will count either of the QR frames at the delivery centre as delivered. Putting those aside, I make it 49 so far in 2017 with 6 in August. The spreadsheet counts three frames in September that Airbus counted as August. MSNs 52 and 55 were counted as 2017 by Airbus. Latest Airbus forecast for 2017 deliveries , as I recall, was ‘nearly a 100’, which looks very challenging.

Geoff

There is so much wrong with this post, I don't even know where to begin.

- So far 50 aircraft have been delivered, without the QR aircraft at the delivery centre.
- Delivery sheet shows 7 deliveries in August, not 6.
- MSN 52 and 55 were counted as 2016 by Airbus, not 2017.

Oops sorry for the errors, thanks for the corrections.

Geoff

The spreadsheet

https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list

Has not yet been updated for delivery 112.

Slash787 · Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:57 pm

Finally A350-1000 in QR colors, I have been waiting for this moment for such a long time, Im sure Mr. Baker has been waiting longer than me, but really what a beauty.

ikolkyo · Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:16 pm

Slash787 wrote:
Finally A350-1000 in QR colors, I have been waiting for this moment for such a long time, Im sure Mr. Baker has been waiting longer than me, but really what a beauty.

Its been painted for awhile now

Geoff1947 · Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:21 pm

Geoff1947 wrote:
Geoff1947 wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:

There is so much wrong with this post, I don't even know where to begin.

- So far 50 aircraft have been delivered, without the QR aircraft at the delivery centre.
- Delivery sheet shows 7 deliveries in August, not 6.
- MSN 52 and 55 were counted as 2016 by Airbus, not 2017.

Oops sorry for the errors, thanks for the corrections.

Geoff

The spreadsheet

https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list

Has not yet been updated for delivery 112.

Delivery total now updated to 112.

Slash787 · Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:46 pm

Its been painted for awhile now[/quote]

I know and my bad, this picture just got me very excited

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:46 pm

MSN 150 (VN #9) completed its initial engine run this afternoon.

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:30 pm

MSN 151 (CI #9) completed its RTO later this afternoon.
As well as first engine run for MSN 90 (QR #20).

KarelXWB · Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:52 am

MSN 90 in fully glory, minus the Oryx logo on the tail:

First engine run msn90 F-WZNT 2/10/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:57 am

MSN 147 ET #6 is online with first flight call sign:

https://fr24.com/AIB01NL/f15671a

KarelXWB · Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:59 am

MSN 175 DL #6 emerged from final assembly.

https://www.weibo.com/2463243090/FoyhmccGZ

KarelXWB · Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:43 pm

MSN 151 CI #9 is also preparing for its first flight.

https://fr24.com/AIB01NV/f157daf

KarelXWB · Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:18 pm

And another CAF for MSN 76 QR xx.

https://fr24.com/AIB09NE/f159e83

KarelXWB · Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:45 am

ap305 wrote:
Apparently all we need to do is look at Airbus job opportunities in order to find out future developments....

http://company.airbus.com/careers/jobs- ... D90C~.html

Upcoming key business milestones come from the introduction of MSN 216 wing twist MOD, Rate 13 ramp up and a Wing equipping of the future project

Airbus preparing to hike A350 production rate

PM · Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:10 am

KarelXWB wrote:

Airbus preparing to hike A350 production rate

That's interesting. No, not the hike. It's interesting that this is dated 5th October. It's the 4th where I am (Africa) and, I believe even where Pacific Islanders are. Wonder how they did that...

KarelXWB · Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:08 pm

MSN 63 QR third flight today.

https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB03FJ/f1862b9

N14AZ · Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:16 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 175 DL #6 emerged from final assembly.

https://www.weibo.com/2463243090/FoyhmccGZ

This is a rather unusal picture, isn't it? Obviously taken from a driving car by a Chinese visitor of Airbus' facilities in TLS. I wonder about this person on the dirt track. Doesn't look as he has a professional reason to walk there.

jumbojet · Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:43 pm

N14AZ wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 175 DL #6 emerged from final assembly.

https://www.weibo.com/2463243090/FoyhmccGZ

This is a rather unusal picture, isn't it? Obviously taken from a driving car by a Chinese visitor of Airbus' facilities in TLS. I wonder about this person on the dirt track. Doesn't look as he has a professional reason to walk there.

Its Robin Hayes in disguise, admiring what a real Airbus plane looks like on a heavy weight contender! :bigmouth:

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