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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:21 pm

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kaukalo wrote:

Current J46 /W43 / Y208 and the new J32 /W42 /Y262


I did not know about this 2nd configuration. Good to know. Also, I assume it will retain the same 1-2-1 J?

The A350-900 is a wonderfully versatile aircraft as far as both range flexibility and capacity flexibility is concerned.

I can't wait to see what the A350-1000 brings to the table.


Same seats, just different ratio between premium and non-premium seats. Basically their small business section behind door 2 is traded into more economy seats


Seatguru says 31'' of pitch in Y... Is it true? It's tight for longhaul... Is that a common pitch for the A350?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:22 pm

I believe 32" pitch is standard on the A350.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:33 pm

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People also forget that A350 production remains in a ramp-up phase and will continue to do until the end of 2018. So if you look at the curve, there will always be more deliveries in the second half of the year. Therefore it's pointless to look at average deliveries so early in the year.


And when the issues with the seats of qatar are resolved or what ever is the trubble there, they two could be all delivered.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:38 pm

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I believe 32" pitch is standard on the A350.

Is there such thing as a "standard" seat pitch on any aircraft? There is the pitch that Boeing/Airbus use for their marketing configurations, but whether airlines use 30", 31", 32"+ is all on the airlines. It is not like seat width, which is more fixed based on the width of the cabin (a variable Boeing/Airbus control).

Anyways 31" is pretty common for long haul now.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:43 pm

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People also forget that A350 production remains in a ramp-up phase and will continue to do until the end of 2018. So if you look at the curve, there will always be more deliveries in the second half of the year. Therefore it's pointless to look at average deliveries so early in the year.

Precisely. But I was hoping they would get away from that big and relatively costly December push. Hopefully they can mitigate it this year.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:58 pm

MSN 145 Air Mauritius #1 has entered final assembly at Station 50.

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Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:51 am

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The issues that CX is having with the J-class cabin seats, is this affecting the ongoing new production run?

CX takes delivery of its current A350s without J seats which are installed by HAECO in HKG so this should have zero impact in production/delivery at Airbus.



Not for all frames. Many have been delivered with the full interior.
 
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Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:59 am

CX Flyboy wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Motorhussy wrote:
The issues that CX is having with the J-class cabin seats, is this affecting the ongoing new production run?

CX takes delivery of its current A350s without J seats which are installed by HAECO in HKG so this should have zero impact in production/delivery at Airbus.

Not for all frames. Many have been delivered with the full interior.

None in 2017 have. And the current ones on the flightline will not.
 
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:14 pm

Second flight for MSN 99 (Singapore #13) this afternoon. #AIB02FU
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:42 pm

Cool that the tail is painted on delta 2
Anyone know the whereabouts of the first one?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:50 pm

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Cool that the tail is painted on delta 2
Anyone know the whereabouts of the first one?

It's easy to track all these aircraft if you follow these threads. MSN 115, the first for DL, has been at station 20, in cabin fit, since last month.

https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... utput=html
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:07 am

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Cool that the tail is painted on delta 2

I'm sure it's been asked somewhere in these threads...

But what's the rhyme/reason behind why some tails/bodies are painted, and others are not?? Even within the same airline.

Can't seem to recognize any discernible pattern here. :(
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:32 am

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But what's the rhyme/reason behind why some tails/bodies are painted, and others are not?? Even within the same airline.

Can't seem to recognize any discernible pattern here. :(


Only 2 or 3 paint hangars are capable of painting a sole tail fin. Airbus can only paint a handful tail fins prior to assembly. Due to the higher production rate, we will be seeing more aircraft without painted tail fin.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:26 am

MSN 93 (Cathay #14) on a third test flight this morning #AIB03NX
MSN 69 (Qatar 15) back on the flightline this morning after a few days in a hangar getting a fix or a paint touch.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:03 am

Any news on the re-worked test frame MSN5 for Air Caraibes?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:13 am

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Any news on the re-worked test frame MSN5 for Air Caraibes?


Still in BOD for refurbishment. I believe delivery is due in summer this year.

Last month Frenchblue published a small teaser of the winglet:

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:45 pm

MSN 95 TG #3 is expected to fly home later today. This should be their first self-owned a350.

Airbus A350 -941 95 HS-THD Thai International delivery 21apr17 TLS-BKK ex F-WZNZ
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:11 pm

And MSN 94 OZ #1 got its test registration removed, suggesting delivery is imminent.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:33 pm

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MSN 95 TG #3 is expected to fly home later today. This should be their first self-owned a350.

Airbus A350 -941 95 HS-THD Thai International delivery 21apr17 TLS-BKK ex F-WZNZ


Delivery flight: https://fr24.com/THA8904/d248449

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:28 pm

[quote="A330freak"]
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Were those 2 unpainted a350s for Azul but never to be used?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:26 pm

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Were those 2 unpainted a350s for Azul but never to be used?


No, those are MSN 130 (TG #6) and MSN 134 (AY #11).
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:36 pm

Meanwhile MSN 141, Qatar's 5th A350-1000 and 30th A350 overall, has entered Station 59 and will soon move to final assembly at Station 50.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:36 am

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Meanwhile MSN 141, Qatar's 5th A350-1000 and 30th A350 overall, has entered Station 59 and will soon move to final assembly at Station 50.

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Ah good, I guess this one will have the special 2022 FIFA World Cup livery since it will be entering service some time around the start of the tournament.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:38 am

3rdGen wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
Meanwhile MSN 141, Qatar's 5th A350-1000 and 30th A350 overall, has entered Station 59 and will soon move to final assembly at Station 50.

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Ah good, I guess this one will have the special 2022 FIFA World Cup livery since it will be entering service some time around the start of the tournament.


Good one! QR must really get their acts together and start receiving those A350s and getting rid ofthe A330s soon
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Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:58 am

Qatara340 wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
Meanwhile MSN 141, Qatar's 5th A350-1000 and 30th A350 overall, has entered Station 59 and will soon move to final assembly at Station 50.


Good one! QR must really get their acts together and start receiving those A350s and getting rid ofthe A330s soon

I am confused, QR will not replace A330s with A350-1000, or will they? Or are you speaking in general?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:48 am

MSN 93 (Cathay #14) on its first CAF this morning. Transferred to the delivery center yesterday.
MSN 103 (Ethiopian #4) also transferred to the delivery center on friday.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:53 am

A delivery ceremony for Asiana's first A350 delivery is scheduled for tomorrow.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:05 am

Once an aircraft is brought to the Delivery Centre, what happens next? I presume the centre is equipped with conference rooms, where the legal title of the aircraft is handed over and that obviously forms the major part of what happens. How long do these meetings take (assuming everything goes smoothly and all the paperwork and funds are in place)? 1-2h?

Other than that, what needs to happen? For a "first aircraft" - e.g. Asiana's, there would no doubt be a party atmosphere with lots of bunting and canapes, but for the likes of CX, QR etc, where it's the next one - not much? Anything else that needs to be done?

I ask because it seems that some of the aircraft seem to take a long time at the delivery centre and I was just curious as to what goes on!
 
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Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:24 am

kaitak wrote:
Once an aircraft is brought to the Delivery Centre, what happens next? I presume the centre is equipped with conference rooms, where the legal title of the aircraft is handed over and that obviously forms the major part of what happens. How long do these meetings take (assuming everything goes smoothly and all the paperwork and funds are in place)? 1-2h?

Other than that, what needs to happen? For a "first aircraft" - e.g. Asiana's, there would no doubt be a party atmosphere with lots of bunting and canapes, but for the likes of CX, QR etc, where it's the next one - not much? Anything else that needs to be done?

I ask because it seems that some of the aircraft seem to take a long time at the delivery centre and I was just curious as to what goes on!

There was a nice documentary about the delivery of a LH A320 in XFW (so a non-first-of-type) that pretty much answers your questions and but unfortunately I cannot find the link that fast.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:39 am

kaitak wrote:
Once an aircraft is brought to the Delivery Centre, what happens next? I presume the centre is equipped with conference rooms, where the legal title of the aircraft is handed over and that obviously forms the major part of what happens. How long do these meetings take (assuming everything goes smoothly and all the paperwork and funds are in place)? 1-2h?

Other than that, what needs to happen? For a "first aircraft" - e.g. Asiana's, there would no doubt be a party atmosphere with lots of bunting and canapes, but for the likes of CX, QR etc, where it's the next one - not much? Anything else that needs to be done?

I ask because it seems that some of the aircraft seem to take a long time at the delivery centre and I was just curious as to what goes on!


I guess that depends on the airlines (and their regulatory authorities) needs.
There will be a longer documentary about the D-AIXC delivery some time this year. For LH the process is basically: Technical acceptance (incl engine run and CAF), ToT, techical preparation of the AC (e.g. software loads), getting the LBA approval and let's go.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:17 pm

Station 50, currently all 3 positions are occupied:

- MSN 145 Air Mauritius #1 at the front
- MSN 147 Ethiopian Airlines #6 in the middle
- MSN 141 Qatar Airways #30 at the back

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:56 pm

MSN 124, Hong Kong Airlines #1, at Station 40 today:

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:00 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Meanwhile MSN 141, Qatar's 5th A350-1000 and 30th A350 overall, has entered Station 59 and will soon move to final assembly at Station 50.

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MSN 141 has now advanced to Station 50.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:02 pm

I've always wondered this but why did the A350 steal Rudolph's nose? What is the material?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:26 pm

Interesting test flight with -1000 XL with what appears to be a 30000ft high speed descent in four minutes or so....flutter testing?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:46 pm

99 SQ13 is online at the delivery centre.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:50 am

MSN 111 (Thai #4 - unpainted) completed its first engine run this morning.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:06 am

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MSN 124, Hong Kong Airlines #1, at Station 40 today:

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Can't wait to see the HNA Group livery painted in full, that thing is gonna look sexy.
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:20 am

MSN 143 QR #31 at Station 40:

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:53 am

MSN 134 AY #11 emerged from final assembly.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:56 am

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QR #31

How many did QR order in total?
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:58 am

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KarelXWB wrote:
QR #31

How many did QR order in total?


80 A350s
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:45 am

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MSN 111 (Thai #4 - unpainted) completed its first engine run this morning.

Interesting first. It seems that MSN 111 went straight from its first ER into an RTO. I don't recall seeing this before.
 
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Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:32 pm

MSN 99 (Singapore #13) departing on its first CAF this afternoon. And MSN 103 (Ethiopian #4) follows with its first CAF right after.
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:36 pm

MSN 103 ET #4 is departing on its first CAF as well.
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Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:44 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 111 (Thai #4 - unpainted) completed its first engine run this morning.

Interesting first. It seems that MSN 111 went straight from its first ER into an RTO. I don't recall seeing this before.


Confidence increasing?
 
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:28 pm

MSN 94 OZ #1 is flying home:

https://fr24.com/AAR878D/d2e5c4c
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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:37 pm

Photo of the flight line taken several days ago, showing MSN 104 AY #9 and MSN 111 TG #4.

Aircraft at the front is MSN 103 ET #4 that is now parked at the delivery centre.

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Re: A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 17

Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:31 pm

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Photo of the flight line taken several days ago, showing MSN 104 AY #9 and MSN 111 TG #4.


Hmmn...a new 5J ATR72?..... :scratchchin:
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