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Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sat May 07, 2016 10:47 am

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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sat May 07, 2016 11:06 am

Its a bit concerning when the IAG chief is moaning about plane stands and space at Dublin airport I know there's an extra 10 parking stand beside the 100 gates nearly completed but is the 400 pier out of space already at peak times and if so what's the DAA plan short term and long term plans to deal with it Pier G I know is long term what's all the talk about a bus lounge of Terminal 2 ???
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sat May 07, 2016 11:10 am

Great flight with EI the other night on the 779. Good to see the 321 back on the route. Quite a full flight full of families etc..

We really had a good crew. I got chatting to some of them. Was great to get row 23DE to myself. 24DEF Exit was free and the crew asked me if I want to move but I was happy enough on the block of 2.


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A new Bia menu the sausage toastie has gone , presume because it did not fly well !


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BOB service was started quickly after take off which is good and not always the case on the longer routes. Usually they have a go slow in my experience on the Canary routes. Also as usual a second service.


I did not see the logo model in previous shopping magazines or maybe I just missed it ?


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Landed and parked at the B gates with the walk back to T2. This is now pretty normal for these late night arrivals and it is nearly part of T2 now. Heard a few disgruntled passengers mostly with young kids about the trek back but sign of the times with limited gate space these days. The walkway is quite narrow which in turn does not allow for faster walking people to pass so can take even longer.


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Cant wait for Aer Club to launch I am missing AVIOS   Although they do say I will get them credited when it launches but we shall see.
 
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Sat May 07, 2016 11:28 am

If any Anetters want to try something different I notice 9U have some cheap fares DUB-KIV-FRA on Saturdays. It gives a 80 mins connection in KIV.

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IB also have some cracking fares from ORK Via MAD even in Biz class. Maybe because its a new route. The same fares ex DUB were at least 50% more.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sat May 07, 2016 11:49 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):

Great flight with EI the other night on the 779. Good to see the 321 back on the route. Quite a full flight full of families etc..

We really had a good crew. I got chatting to some of them. Was great to get row 23DE to myself. 24DEF Exit was free and the crew asked me if I want to move but I was happy enough on the block of 2.

Great pics OA260!

I wonder if we could see additional A321 being added to EI. I always thought the first LHR flight on Monday's would be the perfect flight for it.

Maybe even CDG as I read recently that France was one of the largest connecting pax at DUB.

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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sat May 07, 2016 1:15 pm

Quoting EI121 (Reply 5):

They did say before IAG they were looking to add some A321's but as of yet nothing has happened.

Quoting neutral (Reply 1):

Another artticle today about it and it's Pier F, not sure what will or won't happen but suspect it will be a few years off. It would allow Pier 4 become totally long haul USPC area as well so lots of stands to park.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPp3FVUtdTo

Cockpit view of DUB-LAX launch
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sat May 07, 2016 3:14 pm

Quoting EI121 (Reply 5):
Great pics OA260!

Thanks taken with the new iPhone SE. A lot of my aviation related pics Im using this now rather than the camera unless it needs zoom.

Quoting EI121 (Reply 5):
I wonder if we could see additional A321 being added to EI.

I doubt it lets just say we should bag the current ones while we can !
 
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Sat May 07, 2016 3:35 pm

I would think that Pier G is much easier to build that Pier F. I presume Pier F would require the demolition of the Ryanair maintenance Hanger. Is it still used by Ryanair. I can't really see them "playing ball" unless the DAA give them something in return.

I would also think that if F was built, it would be solely EI shorthaul. Makes sense, and passengers would easily make connections in Pier E if needs be.

When Pier G is built, I would think that it is for miscellaneous airlines on short haul routes?!?
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sat May 07, 2016 3:39 pm

Quoting KIRFlyer (Reply 8):

F will come before G, F is bigger and it's T2 that needs stands not T1. FR are happy with 5G for any overflow from D.
 
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Sat May 07, 2016 3:51 pm

Quoting KIRFlyer (Reply 8):

The Ryanair Hanger is long gone as a result of the construction of T2. They have been given the use of an old Aer Lingus hanger (Hanger 3 maybe???) so therefore there is no reason why Pier F cannot go ahead although there are a number of structures which I believe house Servisair and Aer Lingus ground support services but I'm sure that's all easily relocatable. As for Aer Lingus catering I'm not sure if that will require a new facility if Pier F is built.
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sat May 07, 2016 4:08 pm

Quoting KIRFlyer (Reply 8):
When Pier G is built, I would think that it is for miscellaneous airlines on short haul routes?!?

Should we expect any exceptional growth from misc. airlines from DUB into the future?

Aside from the ME3 and EI/JV/OneWorld expansion, will any other airlines be expected to add significant capacity? FR has grown its DUB operation a lot in recent years but are there many more cities left where they don't already have DUB flights?

Quoting tonystan (Reply 10):
The Ryanair Hanger is long gone as a result of the construction of T2. They have been given the use of an old Aer Lingus hanger (Hanger 3 maybe???) so therefore there is no reason why Pier F cannot go ahead although there are a number of structures which I believe house Servisair and Aer Lingus ground support services but I'm sure that's all easily relocatable. As for Aer Lingus catering I'm not sure if that will require a new facility if Pier F is built.

Speaking of hangars, EI has recently refitted it's HQ, which is of course located in Hangar 6. It makes for a very upmarket hangar!  http://bushellinteriors.com/projects...gus-office-fitout-dublin-airport/#
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sat May 07, 2016 6:24 pm

Via sheer luck of bus positioning and which bus opened first I actually beat my plane to train record in Gattets today - 16 mins from 19 which was delayed by then having to open the old bypass lane when I arrived first

As far as I could tell nearly the entire flight was connecting. For the times i needed EI was actually a few quid cheaper than FR (and I always allow a good margin for using T2 and avoiding shouty Svetlana anyway -but this was directly cheaper) but I do wonder if that route lives on VS and BA transfers
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sat May 07, 2016 6:57 pm



Just to provide an update on how things are progressing at Enniscrone this evening, the barge carrying the 767 has been pulled to shore! 
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sat May 07, 2016 7:10 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
A new Bia menu the sausage toastie has gone , presume because it did not fly well !
Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
I did not see the logo model in previous shopping magazines or maybe I just missed it ?

New menu Im told. The Rugby logo model is a new addition.

Quoting EI121 (Reply 4):
I wonder if we could see additional A321 being added to EI.

Not sure if IAG want to add, but the EI fleet plan from 2014 was to increase the numbers of A321's in the shorthaul fleet.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sat May 07, 2016 8:29 pm

Quoting EIDL (Reply 11):

Would say very high % connecting however I guess the levels really depend on the flight times.
 
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Sun May 08, 2016 5:08 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 3):

If any Anetters want to try something different I notice 9U have some cheap fares DUB-KIV-FRA on Saturdays. It gives a 80 mins connection in KIV.

KIV is a fantastic little airport and Moldova is a cheap, friendly country with wonderful red wine if you miss the connection!!!
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sun May 08, 2016 7:34 am

Quoting neutral (Reply 1):
Landed and parked at the B gates with the walk back to T2. This is now pretty normal for these late night arrivals and it is nearly part of T2 now. Heard a few disgruntled passengers mostly with young kids about the trek back

A frequent late night pleasure is to arrive on EI to T1 and have to trek all the way back to T2. Not possible to exit via T1, even with hand baggage only, despite T1 facilities being open and a far shorter walk for the old, disabled, or just burdened. Bit of a pain to see all the close in empty gates at T2, all awaiting US flights, all due very many hours later. You hear lots of complaints as you undertake the " Long March".
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sun May 08, 2016 9:33 am

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 5):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPp3FVUtdTo

Cockpit view of DUB-LAX launch

EI has developed a great social media team. Love the part where ATC asks, "How do you say your callsign again?".
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The 767 for Quirky Glamping has been successfully brought to land in Enniscrone, Co. Sligo. Incredible scenes!

 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sun May 08, 2016 9:39 am

Quoting EIDL (Reply 11):
As far as I could tell nearly the entire flight was connecting.

LGW gets a hell of a lot of connections onto VS BA and others. All flights seem to have lots of connections. I have taken flights early morning and afternoon. The ones waiting at the baggage hall are Id say on average 15-20% of the flight. Taking into account the HBO's (20%) then you see the rest are all connecting. Sunday afternoons you get a lot of Irish ex pats heading back to London after the weekend too. Usually families.

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 16):
A frequent late night pleasure is to arrive on EI to T1 and have to trek all the way back to T2. Not possible to exit via T1, even with hand baggage only, despite T1 facilities being open and a far shorter walk for the old, disabled, or just burdened.

Indeed its down steps despite air bridge being available and then up some steps. Passport control once we got to T2 was friendly and fast though so that was a bonus and the bags were off pretty quick so was not all a hassle.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sun May 08, 2016 11:39 am

105 passengers on first LAX flight, 48 connections from England, France, Germany, Linate in Italy and a man from Edinburgh.

Would appear the LIN connections were self connections. EI should be allowing Milan All Airports connections to allow LAX services as the afternoon arrival connects with MXP and LIN for departure.

It's slightly poor number but I am told that numbers are much stronger in the coming weeks/months. SFO is also having another strong summer even with LAX been back on departure boards. Wonder if we might see A333 or even additional freq at some point soon...lot more booked on EWR launch despite it been some time off.

www.ttravelextra.wordpress.com/2016/...tras-sunday-supplement-may-8-2016/

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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sun May 08, 2016 1:11 pm

Ryanair closing in on culprits behind $50m bomb threat

Ryanair has been given permission by a Los Angeles court to force US communications giants Sprint and Verizon to divulge records as the airline hunts down anonymous Twitter users who threatened to blow up its aircraft and demanded $50m.

http://www.independent.ie/business/t...hind-50m-bomb-threat-34693552.html

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Irish passport applications from US citizens have increased by 14pc since Republican candidate Donald J Trump announced his presidential bid in June 2015.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-for-irish-passports-34694941.html

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Dublin vies with Heathrow and Schipol in Best Airport award

Annual numbers top 25 million as traffic volume up 17 per cent in q1

Dublin Airport has been shortlisted for Airport Council International (ACI) Europe’s prestigious Best Airport Award, in the airports with over 25 million passengers per annum category.
The nomination comes after a record breaking year for Dublin Airport, with over 25 million passengers.
Other airports shortlisted in the category include Heathrow, Frankfurt, Adolfo Suarez Madrid-Barajas and Amsterdam Schiphol.

http://www.businesspost.ie/dublin-vy...and-schipol-in-best-airport-award/
 
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Sun May 08, 2016 1:21 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 19):
105 passengers on first LAX flight, 48 connections from England, France, Germany, Linate in Italy and a man from Edinburgh.
It's slightly poor number but I am told that numbers are much stronger in the coming weeks/months.

Been told that myself. First 2-3 weeks are weak but June is looking like strong bookings. Maybe May is a little early for LA? Impressive that close to 50% of the load were connections.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sun May 08, 2016 1:43 pm

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 21):
Impressive that close to 50% of the load were connections

Does ET have any connection arrangements at either DUB at LAX ?

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 21):
First 2-3 weeks are weak but June is looking like strong bookings. Maybe May is a little early for LA?

If May is regarded as a week month then what should we expect for the winter months? The route is currently scheduled to continue with 4 weekly flights through to the beginning of January, where it reduces to 3-weekly.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sun May 08, 2016 1:51 pm

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 21):
Been told that myself. First 2-3 weeks are weak but June is looking like strong bookings. Maybe May is a little early for LA? Impressive that close to 50% of the load were connections.

LAX was as expected. It is no surprise that loads for June/July/August are much better. Had they not been alarm bells would be sounding in peak season. May loads will also be helped by the decent trade offer  

EWR as I predicted would be a much more positive story with advance bookings doing well.

Quoting 321neo (Reply 22):
Does ET have any connection arrangements at either DUB at LAX ?

Yes they do VX being one partner.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sun May 08, 2016 2:02 pm

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 21):

Indeed but I expect EI may say it's in line with what is expected but there is no way they are happy with those numbers for this month even with ET on the scene. If they are then they have low expectations. I would of expected at least 150-200 on the first flight considering it's to the US. It did however take them time to adjust the pricing on the route and could of lost some early bookings as they were charging some silly fares.

Could be considered both good or bad that almost 50% were connections, really depends what way you view it. It does show the DUB product is working quiet well though.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sun May 08, 2016 3:05 pm

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 21):
Been told that myself. First 2-3 weeks are weak but June is looking like strong bookings. Maybe May is a little early for LA? Impressive that close to 50% of the load were connections.

It also means that EI only picked up 50 passengers from Ireland, which is poor by any measure. Still, it's early days yet and it's unfair to over-analyse data based on a single flight.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Sun May 08, 2016 3:23 pm

150 outbound on first flight is ok - considering no US origin pax until next week at the earliest. If there was 150 on the inbound they will return soon, resulting in 300 (or a full flight)
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Sun May 08, 2016 4:45 pm

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 26):

150 outbound on first flight is ok - considering no US origin pax until next week at the earliest. If there was 150 on the inbound they will return soon, resulting in 300 (or a full flight)

There were 105 on the first outbound - 48 connecting via DUB and 57 DUB-originating - therefore a loadfactor of 39% (266 seats in total).

Your logic is correct though, numbers should increase once traffic flows naturalise after the initial few weeks.

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Sun May 08, 2016 7:17 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 24):
Indeed but I expect EI may say it's in line with what is expected but there is no way they are happy with those numbers for this month even with ET on the scene.
Quoting 321neo (Reply 22):
If May is regarded as a week month then what should we expect for the winter months?

Please dont misinterpret my post, under 130 booked pax on the inaugural flight may be "in line with expectations" but cannot be seen as good or acceptable if the route is to succeed.
 
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Mon May 09, 2016 7:09 am

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 24):
Indeed but I expect EI may say it's in line with what is expected but there is no way they are happy with those numbers for this month even with ET on the scene.

I just done a dummy booking for LAX for a week in June. With EI, the cheapest fare for 2 adults it comes in at €2213.94 EUR, and a semi flex fare on ET was €1324.74 EUR. I cant see how EI will compete with the current price structure, connecting pax wont fill a plane.

The dates were EI 26 June to 1 July, and ET 25 June to 30 June
 
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Mon May 09, 2016 8:15 am

Quoting RRTrent (Reply 29):
I cant see how EI will compete with the current price structure, connecting pax wont fill a plane.

The key for EI over ET will be consumer awareness. The general public still have a hurdle to jump to be comfortable with the ET brand. Everyone here knows EI of course but say to them Ethiopian and they have a barrier due to not knowing anything about the brand or being comfortable with it. Of course this is not rational as ET are as good if not better than EI but the perception is still there. This is something that ET intend to educate people on and do more advertising and promos.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Mon May 09, 2016 9:28 am

Still no 4th 757 in service for EI? EI110/111 cancelled today and EI-LBS rotated to DUB to operate IAD flight. I think I saw someone say on here, that the 4th 757 has been in SNN since Nov? If so, how does it come to this in May? Rather poor effort really from EI but not surprising.
 
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Mon May 09, 2016 1:50 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 12):
Just to provide an update on how things are progressing at Enniscrone this evening, the barge carrying the 767 has been pulled to shore! 

That's a brilliant photo!

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 13):
New menu Im told. The Rugby logo model is a new addition.

Was going to get it on flight today, but forgot ... see below!

Underwhelmed by EI experience today. On the 155, delayed initially to 10.05, but didn't push back until 10.33. No explanation from the cockpit; lengthy delay queuing; again, a few words would have helped. Some pax connecting to SFO had connection concerns! Flight itself was fine, but my bag (which was not connecting) didnt make it.

On the plus side, flight was operated by EI-DEI, in rugby scheme.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Mon May 09, 2016 3:25 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 32):
No explanation from the cockpit

I was on an EI flight recently where there was no announcement from the flight deck whatsoever from boarding to disembarkation. I can never remember that happening from any of my previous flights...on any airline! A bit odd but no big deal I guess. Usually there's a welcome message from the captain before departure and again either by the captain or first officer before descent.
 
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Mon May 09, 2016 3:28 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 33):
I can never remember that happening from any of my previous flights...on any airline!

AFAIK, with many airlines a PA is not only a procedure, but a checklist requirement.
 
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Mon May 09, 2016 4:20 pm

Many airlines including my own make it a requirement for the captain to introduce anyone on the flight deck as well as the senior cabin crew member, they also must mention the no smoking and seat belt policies, apart from that it is a very nice touch.
 
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Mon May 09, 2016 4:22 pm

They were ok with PA calls during the flight and the captain did introduce himself, but it was just that there was no explanation of the delay; an explanation might well have resulted in people not leaving the flight thinking "oh, there's Aer Lingus, late for no reason ... why can't they get their act together?". It might well have been an ATC slot issue, so why not just say that (or whatever the reason is) ...
 
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Tue May 10, 2016 9:10 am

Eirtech secures aircraft maintenance contract with SAS
Shannon-based Eirtech Aviation has three year agreement to work with 40 aircraft

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/t...enance-contract-with-sas-1.2641382

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EasyJet swings to half-year loss as security fears hit travel
Europe-wide capacity glut is weighing on fares and wiping out cheap fuel gains

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/t...ecurity-fears-hit-travel-1.2642105

It will be interesting to see how EZY fairs at BFS with FR now on the scene.
 
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Tue May 10, 2016 11:52 am

Any news on the new lounge after customs in Dublin, I heard sometime in May to open? Whom will use it, all airlines?
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Tue May 10, 2016 12:07 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 36):

To be fair, it's extremely rare for EI flight deck not to do an announcement - I can't remember a single EI flight where the cockpit haven't communicated with pax.

Quoting RRTrent (Reply 29):
Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 28):

I think we're all reading into a single flight a bit much here - it was a Wednesday flight, the very first one. Surely high fares in June is a sign of strong bookings? If the bookings are healthy, no need to discount to fill seats! This is ET's contest to lose!

First flights generally do have awful loads anyway unless pre filled with 'dignitaries' and so on. Far too much being made of it, IMHO.

LAX was a great performer for many years - only pulled to save SFO during a major economic meltdown. I've no doubts it will do great this time too.
 
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Tue May 10, 2016 12:19 pm

Quoting Irishbean (Reply 38):

Within first 2 weeks in July last I heard.
 
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Tue May 10, 2016 12:38 pm

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 39):
I think we're all reading into a single flight a bit much here - it was a Wednesday flight, the very first one. Surely high fares in June is a sign of strong bookings? If the bookings are healthy, no need to discount to fill seats! This is ET's contest to lose!

First flights generally do have awful loads anyway unless pre filled with 'dignitaries' and so on. Far too much being made of it, IMHO.

I agree. It's expected of a new flight to have lower loads, especially since potential customers on both ends have had less exposure to its availability. We should also remember that this route was launched at the beginning of May, rather early for the summer season.

By August it should be turning a profit. EI is increasingly an attractive option for US tourists who would like to go on holiday in European cities, especially secondary ones.
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Tue May 10, 2016 12:58 pm

Slightly off topic, but is there anyway the DAA could request the CBP to extend its hours?

Considering the growth DUB has experienced in the last few years and with new routes on the way I say CBP is at capacity?

I think if it closed at 7pm the afternoon BOS/ORD/JFK flights could be pushed back an hour or so
 
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Tue May 10, 2016 1:07 pm

Quoting EI121 (Reply 42):
DAA could request the CBP to extend its hours?

Depending on contracts they could they have added more CBP officers recently so in future anything is possible.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Tue May 10, 2016 1:38 pm

The AAIB report into an incident on a UA flight from EWR-DUB in 2013 has finally been released. Not very complimentary about the crew's actions & slightly scary about them thinking a stall was occurring when it wasn't resulting in the aircraft exceeding its designed speed limits

http://m.rte.ie/news/2016/0510/787420-flight-safety-recommendations/
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Tue May 10, 2016 5:52 pm

Quoting EI121 (Reply 42):
think if it closed at 7pm the afternoon BOS/ORD/JFK flights could be pushed back an hour or so

But why, you then create long connections for passengers and DUB is good for short connections. I'm not sure the daa have full control over hours, the US have final say.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Wed May 11, 2016 9:57 am

Our new Minister for Transport is Shane Ross, T.D. Interesting choice (although "choice" is probably not the right word, as the government needed to cobble support together from any quarter); however, it will be interesting to see how he performs. He's a bright guy and given that support from independents is crucial to keeping the government stable, he will have a lot more latitude and power than previous incumbents. I look forward to seeing how he performs.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Wed May 11, 2016 10:04 am

Irish MEP left behind in Dublin Airport by Lufthansa

Seán Kelly had been booked on the flight and had paid for his ticket well in advance. And he’s not happy with what happened…

MEP SEÁN KELLY has vowed to ban airlines from over-booking flights after being left stranded in Dublin Airport yesterday.

Speaking to EuroParlRadio, Kelly described airlines over-selling flights as “very bad practice and totally disrespectful of citizens”.

http://www.thejournal.ie/lufthansa-s...ep-dublin-airport-2761299-May2016/


Funny how he has only now vowed to try to ban airlines from over-booking because it happened to him!  
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Wed May 11, 2016 10:32 am

I'd have 2 questions for MEP Kelly.

1. Did he pay for the flight,

&

2. Did he accept the denied boarding compensation ( and importantly - did he keep it).
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Wed May 11, 2016 10:40 am

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 45):
I'm not sure the daa have full control over hours, the US have final say.

I think you're right. SNN lobbied the US to extend opening hours for the BA3 flight when they cut them back a few years ago but couldn't get it.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 47):
Funny how he has only now vowed to try to ban airlines from over-booking because it happened to him!

I'd imagine this happens quite regularly. I got upgraded recently on a BA flight that was overbooked. I'm still trying to figure out how airlines decide who to upgrade. I am an AAdvantage member but with no status so I'm wondering if this was a factor or just a random selection.

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