A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 16

SQ22 · Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:28 pm

Please continue your discussion here.

Old thread:

A350 Production And Delivery Thread Part 15 (by KarelXWB Mar 8 2016 in Civil Aviation)

kaichinshih · Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:04 pm

Special livery design confirmed for first CI A350
B-18901 MSN049 named as Mikado Pheasant

Each of the 13 remaining A350 will carry a special livery inspired by Taiwan endemic birds
Ex. B-18902 to be named as “Taiwan Blue Magpie” and decorated based on the name.
Voting site for naming of A350s: http://www.china-airlines-a350.com.tw/
Cabin design and interior information for A350s: https://talkairlines.wordpress.com/2...irbus-a350-900xwb-cabin-interiors/

[Edited 2016-04-26 12:07:43]

Miami · Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:29 pm

Sri Lanka's prime minister has instructed Sri Lankan to cancel 4 A350s on order.

Prost · Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:37 pm

When do American's and Delta's first A350s start assembly?

Thunderboltdrgn · Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:58 am

Quoting Prost (Reply 3):
When do American's and Delta's first A350s start assembly?

Currently at TLS, parts are arriving for msn #70 (SQ #9) and #71 (A350-1K #3). AA #1 is #106 and DL #1 is 115.
http://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbproduction/production-list

This probably have been mentioned in the previous threads but anyway, A350-1000 #1 first flight
is scheduled for September 8th.

art · Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:35 am

Quoting Miami (Reply 2):
Sri Lanka's prime minister has instructed Sri Lankan to cancel 4 A350s on order.

Any idea why?

N14AZ · Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:39 am

Quoting art (Reply 5):
Any idea why?

In this thread there is more Information:
Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders - Part 2 (by qf789 Apr 1 2016 in Civil Aviation)

Someone83 · Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:40 am

Quoting Prost (Reply 3):
When do American's and Delta's first A350s start assembly?

First for AA is MSN106 and first for DL MSN115, so should be towards the end of this year that parts should start arrive in TLS, maybe into early 2017 for the DL frame

BobMUC · Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:26 am

It looks like TAMs #3 (MSN 35, F-WZGA/PR-XTC) is preparing for FF:

http://www.flightradar24.com/TAM35F1

BobMUC · Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:14 am

Quoting BobMUC (Reply 8):
(MSN 35, F-WZGA/PR-XTC

My mistake, should be F-WZGD and not F-WZGA...

Now online as http://www.flightradar24.com/AIB01GD

rbrunner · Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:28 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 2):
Sri Lanka's prime minister has instructed Sri Lankan to cancel 4 A350s on order.

That frees slots for eager customers.

BobMUC · Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:08 pm

We have a second FF for today:

http://www.flightradar24.com/AIB01FZ

SQ #3; MSN 31; F-WZFZ, future 9V-SMC

Polot · Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:21 pm

Quoting rbrunner (Reply 10):
That frees slots for eager customers.

Not all of them are actually early slots. Delivery of the aircraft was spread out to 2021. I believe the early deliveries are the ones they are leasing from IFLC (which they are taking and not cancelling).

mwhcvt · Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:57 pm

Quoting kaichinshih (Reply 1):

Well those are going to be some seriously pretty birds then

Quoting Miami (Reply 2):

So when were they due to receive them

Sooner787 · Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:43 pm

Quoting Prost (Reply 3):
When do American's and Delta's first A350s start assembly?

IIRC, AA should get their first 359 in Q4 of 2017, so start counting backwards from there.

DL is pretty close to AA in the firing order , so they may roll out pretty close to each other

sturmovik · Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:34 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 2):

I presume these are ones for which long lead time items have not been ordered?

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:07 am

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 14):
IIRC, AA should get their first 359 in Q4 of 2017, so start counting backwards from there.
DL is pretty close to AA in the firing order , so they may roll out pretty close to each other

Much earlier than that... AA is expecting 4x A359s in 2017. DL is expecting 6x A359s in 2017. First deliveries should be in Q2-2017 for both operators.
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TheRedBaron · Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:25 am

I am getting really worried about KAREL, anyone knows ?

TRB (sorry for being off topic)

Thunderboltdrgn · Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:31 am

Quoting TheRedBAron (Reply 17):
I am getting really worried about KAREL, anyone knows ?

TRB (sorry for being off topic)

I suggest to continue the discussion here: Missing Members With Accounts Still Active (by 777way Sep 3 2013 in Site Related)

Miami · Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:53 am

Quoting mwhcvt (Reply 13):
So when were they due to receive them

Next year.

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:08 am

MSN 23 (Finnair #5) had its final registration, OH-LWE, applied overnight. Delivery flight possibly as early as today. HEL-PEK begins on A359 starting May 9th. Total deliveries for April = 2. I'm forecasting 5 for May (QR, JJ, SQ, CX, QR).
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BobMUC · Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:21 pm

It looks like Airbus is preparing the next FF:
MSN 25; F-WZFT, future A7-ALJ; QR #10

http://www.flightradar24.com/AIB01FT

PM · Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:55 pm

Quoting kaichinshih (Reply 1):
B-18902 to be named as “Taiwan Blue Magpie”

I went to Taiwan especially to see these astonishing birds. Gorgeous!

BobMUC · Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:31 pm

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 20):
MSN 23 (Finnair #5) had its final registration, OH-LWE, applied overnight. Delivery flight possibly as early as today.

MSN 23 is now online with the flight number for the delivery flight:
http://www.flightradar24.com/FIN8961

This is now the 21st A350XWB delivery!

[Edited 2016-04-29 11:45:53]

Miami · Mon May 02, 2016 10:51 am

MSN 70/SQ 9 parts

Seen in the back is the fuselage

Msn70 fuselage 2/5/2016 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

www.twitter.com/thatjohn

Miami · Mon May 02, 2016 10:54 am

Quote:
Vietnam Airlines JSC is planning for sale and leaseback of its three A350-900XWB aircraft with delivery scheduled in September-October 2016 and January 2017.

http://www.vir.com.vn/vietnam-airlin...se-three-a350-900xwb-aircraft.html

BobMUC · Mon May 02, 2016 2:35 pm

FAA approves A350 XWB for ‘beyond 180 minutes’ ETOPS
http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...-xwb-for-beyond-180-minutes-etops/

From the PR:
• Includes option for 300min ETOPS capability; On target for full 370min approval this year

• A350 XWB ‘beyond 180 minutes’ ETOPS capability now approved by both EASA and FAA

• Enabling straighter more fuel efficient flight paths with lower CO2 emissions

sturmovik · Mon May 02, 2016 3:31 pm

Quoting TheRedBAron (Reply 17):

I am getting really worried about KAREL, anyone knows ?

He replied on twitter, said he's been busy.

hkcanadaexpat · Wed May 04, 2016 9:41 am

MSN 25 (Qatar #10) just completed her Rejected Takeoff on her third day trying to do so! First flight should happen this week.

In other news, MSN 29 (Cathay #1) has been back online for the past few days. Assuming the seats have finally arrived, being loaded ahead of customer acceptance flights later this month. MSN 33 (Qatar #11) is online daily going through her pre-engine run checks. MSN 21 (Qatar #9) has gone completely quiet since being moved to the delivery centre last month. Qatar must have found something wrong which requires replacement parts to be flown in or manufactured prior to customer acceptance flights.

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Miami · Wed May 04, 2016 2:22 pm

MSN29/CX1 is moving to the engine test area - www.flightradar24.com/29ER4/99bdee2

Miami · Wed May 04, 2016 2:23 pm

First A350 that will carry the new LATAM livery.

LATAM Airbus A350-941 cn 045 F-WZGR // PR-XTD by Clément Alloing, on Flickr

Miami · Wed May 04, 2016 6:35 pm

2nd SriLankan A350 is at the A380 site, awaiting "rework".

A350-900 SRILANKAN AIRLINES MSN055 FUTUR 4R-XWB by Jérémy Le roch, on Flickr

ap305 · Thu May 05, 2016 10:56 pm

Despite all the issues QR seems to have with Airbus regarding the neo and the a350 delivery situation, AAB still has only praise for the bird...

http://www.ausbt.com.au/qatar-airway...s-for-perth-delays-auckland-launch

Quote:
"It has outstanding comfort and reliability"

TheRedBaron · Fri May 06, 2016 1:45 am

Quoting sturmovik (Reply 27):
He replied on twitter, said he's been busy.

Thanks !!

TRB

Aircellist · Fri May 06, 2016 3:15 am

On Starbuck's list, there is an amazing number of planes just parking… All waiting for seats or lavatories?

If so, that is quite a bottleneck!

hkcanadaexpat · Fri May 06, 2016 7:25 am

MSN 25 (Qatar Airways #10) preparing for its first flight this morning.
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Heavierthanair · Fri May 06, 2016 7:57 am

G'day

It appears Qatar's ninth A 350 has an incognito outing this morning with call sign VOI9007

http://www.flightradar24.com/VOI9007/9a08b70

Cheers

Peter

BobMUC · Fri May 06, 2016 9:57 am

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 35):
MSN 25 (Qatar Airways #10) preparing for its first flight this morning.

Finally F-WZFT is in the air for the FF.
http://www.flightradar24.com/AIB01FT

BobMUC · Fri May 06, 2016 10:13 am

Quoting Heavierthanair (Reply 36):
It appears Qatar's ninth A 350 has an incognito outing this morning with call sign VOI9007

http://www.flightradar24.com/VOI9007...08b70

Going to KEF!?
Are you sure with this? Seems to be a little bit strange for a test flight with a customer aircraft.

starbucks · Fri May 06, 2016 11:19 am

Quoting BobMUC (Reply 38):
Are you sure with this? Seems to be a little bit strange for a test flight with a customer aircraft.

VOI = Volaris, probably delivery flight of a new A320

Heavierthanair · Fri May 06, 2016 11:43 am

G'day

I was misled by the plane's departure from the delivery center, the number 9 in the call sign which I interpreted as Qatar's ninth and 7 which I assumed was its seventh flight. Too many assumptions I guess, I apologize.

And unless Qatar's Al Baker wants to get into the fish hubbing business and thus testing the fish carrying capabilities of the A350 there is no reason why a QR A350 should go astray in KEF.

I would still be interested on who flew from the delivery center to KEF Wow!

Cheers

Peter

Asiaflyer · Fri May 06, 2016 11:53 am

Quoting Heavierthanair (Reply 40):
I would still be interested on who flew from the delivery center to KEF

Probably just a fuel stop across the pond.

kelvin933 · Fri May 06, 2016 1:43 pm

Quoting Asiaflyer (Reply 41):
Probably just a fuel stop across the pond.

It was a Volaris A320 fueling for the trip to BGR

rbrunner · Tue May 10, 2016 3:14 pm

Hi everybody.
We are nearly in mid May and 6 A350s have been delivered so far this year. I know there is a significant amount of frames in TLS at various stages of completion, but Airbus are supposed to deliver something like 50 frames this year. To achieve that, they will have to deliver A350s like hot cakes in the morning in the second half of 2016. Is it all because of Zodiac seats and galleys?

Stitch · Tue May 10, 2016 3:52 pm

Quoting rbrunner (Reply 43):
To achieve that, they will have to deliver A350s like hot cakes in the morning in the second half of 2016. Is it all because of Zodiac seats and galleys?

That appears to account for a fair bit of it, though there other issues (including missing components) that are impacting the production ramp, as well, according to statements by chief financial officer Harald Wilhelm referenced in this article:
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...very-target-eroding-airbus-424731/

mjoelnir · Tue May 10, 2016 4:14 pm

Quoting Heavierthanair (Reply 40):
And unless Qatar's Al Baker wants to get into the fish hubbing business and thus testing the fish carrying capabilities of the A350 there is no reason why a QR A350 should go astray in KEF.

If you are looking for A350 flying fish, you should look at HEL rather than KEF and Finnair rather than Icelandair.
http://news.finnaircargo.com/article/the-journey-of-sushi

If you look for fish or seafood flown on Qatar's A350, you should look for Adelaide.
http://www.traveller.com.au/qatar-ai...ustralia-for-the-first-time-gol5as

[Edited 2016-05-10 09:15:45]

BOAC1966 · Tue May 10, 2016 5:00 pm

It has been a while since the A380 F-WWOW the flying testbed for the -1000 engine has been airborne. Any news on its initial certification and readiness for the test programme that commences in four months time?

The -900 deliveries and activity appear at a near standstill and must be hugely frustrating to operators after years of detailed planning and preparation. At least Boeing getting aircraft in the skies although some have suggested they too been hit by ongoing supply chain failures.

Airbus must be running out of parking space at TLS and Hamburg with the build up of A350/320neo all waiting for key components and of course unwanted A380 frames! And gather now lost export guarantees funding! Cashflow must be an interesting issue! They really need a break through with positive news soon.

StTim · Tue May 10, 2016 5:56 pm

The build up of frames is still nothing compared to the 787's that were parked around in Seattle during the worst of their problems.

Yes this is a big disappointment to Airbus but as you say there are some 787's stored (a BA one for instance) as they have seat supply issues as well.

The input to the FAL still seems to be running to schedule. The rework seems to be coming down as more are parked that at rework stations.

rbrunner · Tue May 10, 2016 9:54 pm

Quoting StTim (Reply 47):
The input to the FAL still seems to be running to schedule. The rework seems to be coming down as more are parked that at rework stations.

You're right as far as the input to the FAL is concerned. I do hope that the bottleneck between input and output, i.e. deliveries gets sorted out.

hkcanadaexpat · Wed May 11, 2016 7:22 am

MSN 35 (TAM #3) was moved to the delivery centre last night. Customer acceptance flights to begin as early as today with delivery in the next 10 days. GRU-MIA restarts A359 service on May 22nd.

Other activity so far this week. MSN 29 (Cathay #1) very active on the flightline. Last test flight should happen soon. First engine run on MSN 33 (Qatar #11) could happen as early as this week, airplane is now back online after almost a full week offline.

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