Nordic Aviation Part 3

ilari · Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:53 am

Seems that OH-LQB is having her last voyage in AY colors right now.

Someone83 · Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:38 am

Cityjet 5th CRJ-900 for SAS-ops, EI-FPE, is scheduled delivered this Friday.

ilari · Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:52 am

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 51):
Cityjet 5th CRJ-900

Will it be based at ARN or CPH?

Someone83 · Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:30 am

Quoting ilari (Reply 52):
Will it be based at ARN or CPH?

It will not have a fixed based but rotated around or routes within/to/from Norway/ARN/HEL

None of the Cityjet CRJ's will be based in CPH, as the SAS/Cimber CRJ's are based here

Of the first four delivered, three has been used for Norwegian operations, mainly on the triangle between SVG/TRD/BGO, SVG/OSL-ABZ, TRD-ARN and OSL-HEL. While the 4th delivered has operated routes out of ARN (about 50% of them ARN-HEL, as well as ARN to SVG/HAM/SFT/OSD)

Thunderboltdrgn · Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:22 pm

Two Finnair pilots will have a Q&A on periscope this Friday at 13.00 Finnish time which is,
12.00 CEST and 11.00 BST. http://twitter.com/Finnair/status/722414522313654272

Finnaviation · Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:42 am

Quoting ilari (Reply 50):

What do You mean?

ilari · Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:50 am

Quoting Finnaviation (Reply 55):

FR24 suggested it was flying to TLS. Couple of minutes later it was no longer there tho.

Finnaviation · Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:58 am

Quoting ilari (Reply 56):

Okay. Went to FRA as a freighter and now heading to SIN (AY81)

ilari · Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:15 am

Quoting Finnaviation (Reply 57):

That's right. Well I've noticed that FR24 sometimes gets airport codes completely mixed up.

Someone83 · Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:06 am

March traffic numbers:

CPH: 2.283.611 +11,2% (Dom: +2% Europe: +13% IC +7%)
OSL: 2.044.428 +5,6% (Dom: +2% Int +9%)
ARN: 1.978.648 +9,1% (Dom: +3% Int +12%)
HEL: 1.420.030 +4,8%

mjoelnir · Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:34 pm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 59):
March traffic numbers:

CPH: 2.283.611 +11,2% (Dom: +2% Europe: +13% IC +7%)
OSL: 2.044.428 +5,6% (Dom: +2% Int +9%)
ARN: 1.978.648 +9,1% (Dom: +3% Int +12%)
HEL: 1.420.030 +4,8%

KEF: 402.782 + 42.5% all international.

HELyes · Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:12 am

According to Flightforum.fi A343 in AY colors is a rare sight soon. The already retired OH-LQA is taking her last flight to New Mexico by the end of this month, the plan is LQB LQC and LQD will leave by autumn and the last one LQE stays in service till summer 2017.

LQB LQC LQD and LQE are rather young birds deliveried 2007-2008 so their story isn't over yet.

sailas · Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:15 am

Ive clearly missed something, what are all these new air berlin (AY) routes from HEL?

Someone83 · Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:43 am

The 5th CRJ-900 delivered to Cityjet for SAS ops

Quote:
Canadair CRJ 900 15402 EI-FPE CityJet delivery 21apr16 YMX-KEF-ARN, SAS cs ex C-GZYJ

Thunderboltdrgn · Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:19 am

In the annual Swedish Service-score award ceremony, where customers have been asked about their
perceived service from the service provider, SAS again won the prize in the best air travel service category.

Malmö Aviation (now called BRA) finished second, DY 3rd and FR 4th.

http://servicescore.se/servicescore/
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/service...-paa-service-i-luften-2016-1376623

okay · Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:20 am

A Finnair FA based in China (outsorced personnel) is accused of human trafficing. Apparently the male FA has managed to transfer 33 people since 2013 from China to Finland and on to other European destinations by letting these people access through closed doors at Helsinki Airport using his ID card, thus avoiding these people clear normal arrival procedures. The man was caught in February, when he had arrived from China and was accompanied by two children and one adult. He was caught letting these people enter the country in above mentioned way.

It is believed the man has acted alone in Helsinki, but is however part of a bigger criminal circle operating in Europe.

Source (in Finnish): Lentoposti

SKAirbus · Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:48 pm

Quoting okay (Reply 65):
It is believed the man has acted alone in Helsinki, but is however part of a bigger criminal circle operating in Europe.

This is worrying. For their safety more than anything... Where were they being transported.

I can understand the crew member having ID access to avoid immigration and customs at HEL but how did these people get on the plane in the first place? Do ground staff in China not check that customers have valid EU visas before boarding the aircraft? How would these people slip past?

okay · Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:09 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 66):

Just my speculation but maybe they cleared security in China with different set of travel documents. Most probably he had an accomplish in check in/gate, to overlook the fact they had no required entry visas to destination. As said he is assumably part of a criminal group. This is just my speculation, no official info is given in the news about this.

The activity is very lucrative apparently, to traffic a person can cost anything between 10000-30000 euros.

Finnair states normal security checks were performed upon employing the person, which he cleared. The employee was employed by a Chinese government owned company Fasco, one of the two agencies foreign airlines are allowed to use to staff their flights.

okay · Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:11 pm

Crew arriving from non-Schengen destination does need to go through Passport control on arrival to Helsinki. There are doors connecting Schengen and Non-Schengen areas, for ground staff to move around. Most probably these are the doors the man used, not knowing they are still monitored even if accessible to him.

I used to work in an Aiport shop at HEL, and once got a call from the Inland Security saying they had monitored my moving at the doors and said I did not check carefully enough behind me that no one else passes through. I got a warning. This was 15 years ago, I know these days there are double doors with clearance area in between but I guess they are unmanned.

[Edited 2016-04-22 06:13:43]

SKAirbus · Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:18 pm

Quoting sailas (Reply 62):
Ive clearly missed something, what are all these new air berlin (AY) routes from HEL?

AY have leased a couple of A321s from AB: http://lentoposti.fi/uutiset/finnair...ksi_euroopan_liikenteen_tarpeisiin

HELyes · Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:27 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 66):

This is worrying. For their safety more than anything... Where were they being transported.

I can understand the crew member having ID access to avoid immigration and customs at HEL but how did these people get on the plane in the first place? Do ground staff in China not check that customers have valid EU visas before boarding the aircraft? How would these people slip past?

According to the police the FA was caught with two children and an elderly adult who all had visas to Russia.The children's parents are illegal Chinese immigrants somewhere in Central-Europe, they tried to get their kids from China. Now it seems the FA has escorted 33 illegal immigrants to Schengen-Europe via HEL, 14 of them are children 5-14y of age.

[Edited 2016-04-22 16:38:17]

Thunderboltdrgn · Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:27 am

An article from SAS own travel magazine about the future of electronic "travel documents".

Quoting scandinavian traveler:

SAS has officially launched a new Innovation Lab, called SAS Lab, this month with the aim of
equipping the company with the digital capabilities that will help it reimagine the future of transportation.

One of the first prototypes that the lab is working on is the development of an Electronic Bag
Tag (EBT). “Today you can check in and receive a boarding pass with almost any digital channel,”
says Pascotto. “But when you need to check in a bag you come to a stop. You need to stop at the
kiosk and manually put in your reservation number and then print the bag tag and get in the queue to hand it over.”

The SAS Lab is developing a small electronic device with new screen technology that is bendable,
operates on low power and is cheap to produce. Travelers would buy one and then attach it
permanently to their bag. The device connects to a smart phone so that travelers can update it
with journey details for each trip they take. The tag would then display a bar code image and the i
tinerary for the trip. At the airport, travelers with the EBT would then just off their luggage at the
baggage drop-in counter.

okay · Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:02 am

Helsingin Sanomat, a Finnish newspaper (one that can be taken seriously) is claiming their sources has found out the Finnish government is ready to lower its ownership of Finnair under 50% starting mid-May.

Apparently big changes are to be expected not only concerning Finnair. The Prime Minister Juha Sipilä has gone through all the companies the Government has stake in and is now ready to say what the government intends to do with them. Keep or sell in brief. Apparently the Finnish National Post is going to be privatised.

Three weeks to go to see if the source is right and Finnair will finally be up for sale.

Source: HS

lesfalls · Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:46 pm

Flights between MSP and OSL could be started with DY soon with them winning them access for their Irish operating Liscense:

http://m.startribune.com/msp-officia...air-s-new-access-to-u-s/376753851/

HELyes · Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:24 pm

Quoting HELyes (Reply 61):
The already retired OH-LQA is taking her last flight to New Mexico by the end of this month

I was too quick, the A340 OH-LQA didn't give up yet, it's heading to SIN today for one (?) more time in her pure white livery, all the AY paintings are gone already.

Quoting okay (Reply 72):

Something for the IAG shopping list...?

flyingbird · Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:09 pm

Quoting ilari (Reply 58):
Well I've noticed that FR24 sometimes gets airport codes completely mixed up.

If you are using FR24 it could be worth reading fr24.com/how-it-works and fr24.com/faq to get more info about how the service works and also about routes.

okay · Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:45 am

Quoting HELyes (Reply 74):

IAG seems likely yes. But then again, if and when the government gives official go ahead for selling, maybe then it starts to interest others, as well. Or then not. It is all about how attractive they see AY and what it has to offer. In my humble opinion AY has the strongest business case in liaison with IAG, but then again other options might be just as good. I would be surprised if AY did not attract any buyers.

[Edited 2016-04-25 03:46:46]

[Edited 2016-04-25 03:47:52]

SKAirbus · Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:04 pm

Not sure if this has been posted anywhere but an EK A380 flying from DXB to IAH was forced to landed at OSL due to a medical emergency on board. The Norwegian news are all over this as it is "a very rare occurrence in Norway". Is this the first A380 visit to OSL since the LH promo tour some years ago?

Source and coverage (på norsk): http://www.aftenposten.no/webtv/#!/v...oerste-passasjerfly-paa-gardermoen

B747forever · Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:25 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 77):

About a year ago we had an EK A380 with a medical emergency diverting to ARN enroute DXB-JFK. As I recall it the ill child passed away later

hvusslax · Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:26 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 77):

Do they medical diversions in general or just those involving A380s?

KEF gets the occasional medical diversion and I've noticed that it seems very random if these stories find their way to the media. Sometimes it is treated like some big news, sometimes not a single word.

Someone83 · Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:52 am

RusLine is starting a 4x weekly LED-OSL from June 1, using CRJ-100/200

http://www.rusline.aero/news/rusline/To_Oslo_from_St._Petersburg/

Quoting hvusslax (Reply 79):
Do they medical diversions in general or just those involving A380s?

Do you mean OSL? Yes, guess a few times a year we get a longhaul aircraft travelling to the US doing a medical stop at OSL. Just from my memory I know I've seen LH A340-600, SU A330, TK 777-300ER just to mention some

[Edited 2016-04-25 22:53:49]

Kiwirob · Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:29 am

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 80):
RusLine is starting a 4x weekly LED-OSL from June 1, using CRJ-100/200

I'll have to look into this, the timings are quite good.

Thunderboltdrgn · Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:30 am

Bombardier have received an order for four CRJ-900, from Trident Jet leasing company.
These four jets are to be used by SAS/CityJet.

http://translate.google.com/translat...ende-order-voor-crj900s&edit-text=

ilari · Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:53 am

Today's Aamulehti news paper wrote that Tampere Region and Finavia are negotiating on new routes to/from TMP. CPH, RIX and AGP could resume and AMS be a new destination.

Of course all this is just hoping at this point, the region's unemployment rate being 18% so who would fill the planes?

co38 · Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:51 am

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 80):
Do you mean OSL? Yes, guess a few times a year we get a longhaul aircraft travelling to the US doing a medical stop at OSL. Just from my memory I know I've seen LH A340-600, SU A330, TK 777-300ER just to mention some

Etihad did a medical diversion to OSL with a 789 sometime last year.

TUGMASTER · Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:00 am

According to the CH-Aviation site,
SAS will again lease the DAT Mad Dog this summer.
unfortunately its behind a pay wall..

anybody with more info...?

cheers

Tug

Thule · Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:47 pm

LH announcing 1x weekly A319 flights from FRA-TOS and FRA-IVL, aimed at winter tourism.

https://www.lufthansagroup.com/en/press/news-releases/singleview/archive/2016/april/26/article/4012.html

FRA - TOS (1) Once per week (Saturdays, 26.11.16 – 25.03.17)
LH870: FRA 9:50 – 13:15 TOS
LH871: TOS 14:10 – 17:35 FRA

FRA – IVL (1) Once per week (Saturdays, 17.12.16 – 25.03.17)
LH846: FRA 9:40 – 14:10 IVL
LH847: IVL 15:05 – 17:35 FRA

vadheim · Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:30 pm

Do we see divertions to Bergen, Stavanger and Trondheim too?!
I think Aeroflot had one in Bodø too not long ago.

Thunderboltdrgn · Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:55 am

An article about SAS and their A320neo order. It also have a couple of pics of the prototype's visit to ARN.

http://www.svd.se/airbus-testplan-i-...lm-infor-jatteaffar-med-sas#sida-3

[Edited 2016-04-29 00:57:43]

Someone83 · Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:48 am

Finnair's fifth A350 delivered

Quote:
Airbus A350 -941 23 OH-LWE Finnair delivery 29apr16 TLS-HEL ex F-WZFR

AirPacific747 · Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:23 am

Helicopter crash in Norway has just been reported in the news. Details to come.

Thunderboltdrgn · Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:29 am

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 90):
Helicopter crash in Norway has just been reported in the news. Details to come.

Link in Norwegian: http://www.nrk.no/hordaland/full-kat...m-etter-helikopterstyrt-1.12923907

Thunderboltdrgn · Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:44 am

According to witnesses, the helicopter crashed after one of the rotor blades "fell off".

Scooter01 · Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:48 am

Live stream from recovery operations:
http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/helikopterstyrt-i-hordaland-1.12923950

Scooter01

Scooter01 · Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:02 pm

This tragic event now has it's own thread:
Helicopter Crashed In Norway, 13 Persons On Board (by flyingturtle Apr 29 2016 in Civil Aviation)

Scooter01

[Edited 2016-04-29 06:06:59]

Someone83 · Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:58 pm

5th ATR-72-600 for FlyBe's SAS operations delivered. Should be ferried onwards to ARN soon

Quote:
ATR-72 -212A(600) 1322 G-FBXE flyBe delivery 27apr16 TLS-EXT, SAS cs ex F-WWEE

6th Cityjet CRJ-900 for SAS delivered

Quote:
Canadair CRJ 900 15403 EI-FPF CityJet delivery 27apr16 YMX-KEF-ARN, SAS cs

[Edited 2016-04-29 07:09:35]

Someone83 · Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:56 pm

OY-KBC is being flown to ZRH for cabin refit today. So now is it only one A340-300 in SAS' fleet, OY-KBD, that still is flying with the old cabin. Plus the odd ball LN-RKP with the LAN interior that just got the old SAS premium economy installed

SKAirbus · Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:21 pm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 96):
Plus the odd ball LN-RKP with the LAN interior that just got the old SAS premium economy installed

Will they be offering passengers compensation for flying in a sub-standard aircraft? Business class at least.

Someone83 · Sat Apr 30, 2016 8:45 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 97):
Business Class at least

The business class here is the former LAN with 180 degree lie flat seats. What this aircraft has been missing is a real premium economy

HELyes · Sun May 01, 2016 12:46 am

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 89):
Finnair's fifth A350 delivered

So 5 of 19 ordered aircraft have arrived, according to the timetable PEK gets A350 back on 09 May. Two more A350s still expected to arrive this year.

Current and planned AY A350 services:

HKG
BKK
PVG

PEK from 09 May
ICN 28 June - 01 October
SIN from 01 October
SGN from 02 November

BKK goes 2x daily on 03 November, AY95/96 looks mixed metal.

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