AA Fleet Update

qqflyboy · Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:56 am

Here are the numbers reflecting retirements, deliveries and new configurations (note, these are LAA fleet totals only):

77W: 17 3-class 8/52/250

772: 47
38 3-class 16/37/194
7 2-class 45/215
(2 undergoing refurb)

788: 12 2-class 28/198

763: 47 (down from 58)
25 2-class 28/177 (reconfigured)
22 2-class 30/188

757: 43 (down from 124)
20 2-class INT'L (16/160)
19 2-class 24/160
4 2-class 22/160

A321: 51
17 3-class 10/20/72
34 2-class 16/165

737: 263
236 2-class 16/144
27 2-class 16/134

MD-80: 101 (down from 360) 2-class 16/124

A319: 32 2-class 8/120

Total fleet count: 612

UGA777 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:47 am

There are 18 77W now. Also, I believe the Md-80 fleet is at 100.

rta · Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:53 am

What are the plans for the 757s?

American 767 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:54 am

Quoting qqflyboy (Thread starter):
788: 12 2-class 28/198

30 more on order, though some of those 30 coming up are 789s.

Quoting qqflyboy (Thread starter):
A321: 51
17 3-class 10/20/72
34 2-class 16/165

737: 263
236 2-class 16/144
27 2-class 16/134

Many more of these two types on order, including the 737-8MAX and A321NEO. The 738 and the A321 make together the "backbone" of the fleet. If you fly American domestic, chances are you will fly on at least one of these two.

Quoting qqflyboy (Thread starter):
MD-80: 101 (down from 360) 2-class 16/124

The fleet will be down to less than 100 early next year, soon to be one quarter of what it was at its peak ten years ago. The last MD-80 will leave in two years from now. None will be repainted.

Thanks for keeping us updated.

Ben Soriano

dbo861 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:56 am

Quoting UGA777 (Reply 1):

There are 18 77W now. Also, I believe the Md-80 fleet is at 100.

I didn't know they had so many 77Ws. Are they supposed to take delivery of any more?

UGA777 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:59 am

Yes, they are taking delivery of two more 77Ws for a total of 20 over the next year.

American 767 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:04 am

Quoting rta (Reply 2):
What are the plans for the 757s?

The domestic 757s which include the ex-US 757s are being replaced with A321s, they will be gone before the end of the decade. The international 757s will stay a little longer, you'll still see a few of them in the early 2020s, but they will likely be gone at the latest 2025. The remaining 757s are now based at three hubs: JFK, PHL and MIA. DFW doesn't see that many of then anymore, neither does CLT, neither does PHX, and neither does LAX. ORD doesn't any anymore of them.

A few days ago I flew on a 757 from JFK to MIA. It was still wearing the old AA livery and it still had the old brown leather seats in F Class. The one I flew on, sorry I didn't get the reg, is one of the domestic 757s likely to leave the fleet soon.

Ben Soriano
ClAAssic AA757 lover.

hkcanadaexpat · Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:24 am

Quoting qqflyboy (Thread starter):
763: 47 (down from 58)
25 2-class 28/177 (reconfigured)
22 2-class 30/188

Actually, i think its 46. N386AA was sent to Roswell late last month.
Expected to finish the year @ 45 with more to go next year.
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bgm · Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:27 am

Quoting American 767 (Reply 6):
DFW doesn't see that many of then anymore, neither does CLT, neither does PHX, and neither does LAX. ORD doesn't any anymore of them.

That's wrong. PHX has plenty of AA 757s (ex-US birds) primarily flying to Hawaii.

qqflyboy · Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:33 am

Quoting UGA777 (Reply 1):

There are 18 77W now. Also, I believe the Md-80 fleet is at 100.

This was the active fleet count as of 12/06/15.

Quoting rta (Reply 2):
What are the plans for the 757s?

The remaining 23 LAA 75Ds will be gone by 1Q18, as will the MD-80. Though with only 23 left I wouldn't be surprised if they're gone by the end of next year.

bgm · Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:35 am

Quoting qqflyboy (Reply 9):
The remaining 23 LAA 75Ds will be gone by 1Q18, as will the MD-80. Though with only 23 left I wouldn't be surprised if they're gone by the end of next year.

There are only 19 domestic LAA 757s left in service:

N181AN
N182AN
N183AN
N184AN
N192AN
N193AN
N194AA
N602AN
N606AA
N608AA
N662AA
N676AN
N679AN
N687AA
N688AA
N689AA
N690AA
N691AA
N692AA

And 20 international configured LAA 757s:
N172AJ
N173AN
N174AA
N175AN
N176AA
N177AN
N178AA
N179AA
N185AN
N186AN
N187AN
N188AN
N189AN
N190AA
N191AN
N195AN
N196AA
N197AN
N198AA
N199AN

ericm2031 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:26 am

Quoting bgm (Reply 8):

That's wrong. PHX has plenty of AA 757s (ex-US birds) primarily flying to Hawaii.

Not sure a few flights a day would constitute "plenty".

rta · Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:34 am

Quoting American 767 (Reply 6):
The domestic 757s which include the ex-US 757s are being replaced with A321s, they will be gone before the end of the decade. The international 757s will stay a little longer, you'll still see a few of them in the early 2020s, but they will likely be gone at the latest 2025. The remaining 757s are now based at three hubs: JFK, PHL and MIA. DFW doesn't see that many of then anymore, neither does CLT, neither does PHX, and neither does LAX. ORD doesn't any anymore of them.

A few days ago I flew on a 757 from JFK to MIA. It was still wearing the old AA livery and it still had the old brown leather seats in F Class. The one I flew on, sorry I didn't get the reg, is one of the domestic 757s likely to leave the fleet soon.

Ben Soriano
ClAAssic AA757 lover.

Quoting qqflyboy (Reply 9):
The remaining 23 LAA 75Ds will be gone by 1Q18, as will the MD-80. Though with only 23 left I wouldn't be surprised if they're gone by the end of next year.

Thanks for the information. I am a bit surprised they will be going out as soon as Q1 2018. I suppose the economics just aren't there for the domestic routes they're currently used on?

And for the international ones, do they have AVOD/new seats? Some of them are really young. Seems worthwhile to install new interiors if they aren't going away any time soon.

superjeff · Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:54 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 6):
A few days ago I flew on a 757 from JFK to MIA. It was still wearing the old AA livery and it still had the old brown leather seats in F Class. The one I flew on, sorry I didn't get the reg, is one of the domestic 757s likely to leave the fleet soon.

I flew one SAN-DFW as well. Was surprised that they still had some in the old interior configuration. Flight crew was a mix of JFK and MIA.

Sooner787 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:29 pm

Quoting rta (Reply 12):
Thanks for the information. I am a bit surprised they will be going out as soon as Q1 2018. I suppose the economics just aren't there for the domestic routes they're currently used on?

At the pace they're bringing in new A321's , I'm surprised the 757's will last until 2018.
I'll definitely miss the 757's

ckfred · Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:42 pm

Of the 20+ 763s in the old configuration, will any of them be reconfigured to include the new J seats, or will they all be sent to the desert in the next year or two.

On another thread, it's being discussed about AA's new premium economy product. The product will start with the 789s, then retrofitted to the 777s, the A330s, and the 788s. The A350s will be delivered with the new cabin.

The 763s will not get Y+ seats, because they are being retired. So, how soon should we expect the 25 reconfigured 763s to start leaving the fleet?

bourbon · Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:08 pm

Rumor has it that AA is introducing a true premium economy product with delivery of the 789.

Sooner787 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:34 pm

Quoting ckfred (Reply 15):
The 763s will not get Y+ seats, because they are being retired. So, how soon should we expect the 25 reconfigured 763s to start leaving the fleet?

I suspect they'll be kept around as extra lift while the rest of their widebody fleet
is updated with the new premium economy sections.

After that though, off to Roswell

OB1504 · Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:02 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 6):
A few days ago I flew on a 757 from JFK to MIA. It was still wearing the old AA livery and it still had the old brown leather seats in F Class. The one I flew on, sorry I didn't get the reg, is one of the domestic 757s likely to leave the fleet soon.

My theory is that they haven't updated the first class cabin on the last 4 757s because they're going to be the first to receive the new business cabin. I seem to recall reading that AA wanted to increase the size of the international 757 subfleet.

Quoting rta (Reply 12):
And for the international ones, do they have AVOD/new seats? Some of them are really young. Seems worthwhile to install new interiors if they aren't going away any time soon.

AVOD in the premium cabin only, which has the same business class seat as the non-retrofit 767-300 and 777-200 fleets. The main cabin is indistinguishable between a domestic and an international 757.

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 17):
I suspect they'll be kept around as extra lift while the rest of their widebody fleet
is updated with the new premium economy sections.

The plan is to keep them confined to medium-haul routes to the Caribbean and Latin America where the lack of a premium economy product isn't a competitive disadvantage, at least until there are enough 787s on the property to replace them.

qqflyboy · Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:56 am

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 18):
My theory is that they haven't updated the first class cabin on the last 4 757s because they're going to be the first to receive the new business cabin. I seem to recall reading that AA wanted to increase the size of the international 757 subfleet.

It was increased from 18 to 20 frames a couple of years ago. Outside of that there haven't been any plans, at least made public, to increase the 75L fleet. My guess is those four will be retired very soon. The remaining 19 will retire in the coming year or two.

Quoting ckfred (Reply 15):
Of the 20+ 763s in the old configuration, will any of them be reconfigured to include the new J seats, or will they all be sent to the desert in the next year or two.

The ones that haven't been retrofitted are all slated for retirement in the next two years.

Quoting ckfred (Reply 15):
So, how soon should we expect the 25 reconfigured 763s to start leaving the fleet?

The remaining 25 that have been retrofitted will be in the fleet through the early 2020s, though it was estimated when they received the new J-class they'd only be around ~5 years or so. So we're talking 2020-2022.

Quoting bgm (Reply 10):
There are only 19 domestic LAA 757s left in service:

The active fleet count, as of 12/06/15, shows 23 75Ds in service. Unless four were retired in the last three days, that count is accurate.

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:30 am

Quoting ckfred (Reply 15):
The 763s will not get Y+ seats, because they are being retired. So, how soon should we expect the 25 reconfigured 763s to start leaving the fleet?

you need to also keep in mind where these 763s are being flown. the 21 remaining old seat ones are basically now serving domestic routes on the DFW-LAX-MIA triangle and DFW-Hawaii routes. I calculated roughly that 85% of their routes are domestic (incl. Hawaii), 10% shorter haul international (MIA-GYE/VCP/LIM) and 5% long haul (occasional DFW-FRA or ORD-Europe). I presume that 5% is simply to replace a refurb 763 when they go tech. Bottom line, none of those routes really warrant international premium economy.

Once all of these old seats 763s are gone in the next 18-36 months, one can easily assume that the new seat 763s will replace them on current routes while the 788/9s replace the 763s on longer international routes (ORD/JFK/MIA-Europe + MIA-Deep SA). so again little business case to add the PE seats on those newer 763s even though some will stay for a long time to come. the youngest 9x 763s were all delivered in 2003 so only 12 years old.

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cathay747 · Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:40 pm

I am really curious as to what AA is going to do with the
PHX-Hawaii routes given the retirement of 757's...

I can't imagine an upgauge to "old seat" 763's. Unless
they cut frequency.

Maybe move int'l. config. 757's to these routes
as domestic birds are retired? (Presuming that
as more 787's are delivered, it would free up
int'l. config. 757's.)

I'll be flying to HNL a year from now on them, and
am really wondering what exactly we'll wind up
flying on!

ty97 · Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:52 pm

Quoting cathay747 (Reply 21):
I am really curious as to what AA is going to do with the
PHX-Hawaii routes given the retirement of 757's...

According to FT, the plan was to retire the pmUS-West 757s used on PHX-Hawaii and replace with the pmAA 757s that used to run LAX-Hawaii and have been replaced by the A321. However, since crews are not integrated, apparently some pmUS-east 757s are being reconfigured to backfill the PHX-Hawaii route. I expect that when AA is down to it's very last few 757s, that's the route they will be on until their last days.

ckfred · Thu Dec 10, 2015 3:44 pm

Quoting qqflyboy (Reply 19):
The remaining 25 that have been retrofitted will be in the fleet through the early 2020s, though it was estimated when they received the new J-class they'd only be around ~5 years or so. So we're talking 2020-2022.

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 20):
Once all of these old seats 763s are gone in the next 18-36 months, one can easily assume that the new seat 763s will replace them on current routes while the 788/9s replace the 763s on longer international routes (ORD/JFK/MIA-Europe + MIA-Deep SA). so again little business case to add the PE seats on those newer 763s even though some will stay for a long time to come. the youngest 9x 763s were all delivered in 2003 so only 12 years old.

If you look at next year's schedule after Labor Day, AA is flying 4X daily on ORD-LHR. But, there is only 1 722 scheduled. The other 3 flights are 763s. Given that the route is between major Oneworld hubs, with BA offering 2 flights with AVOD in all classes, as well as F and Y+, it seems that AA is offering an inferior product for anyone not booking J.

TUSAA · Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:19 pm

Quoting cathay747 (Reply 21):

During a town hall meeting with PHX employee"s a few months back, it's was mentioned that the 737 MAX will take over PHX-Hawaii flying.

cathay747 · Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:33 am

Quoting ty97 (Reply 22):
According to FT, the plan was to retire the pmUS-West 757s used on PHX-Hawaii and replace with the pmAA 757s that used to run LAX-Hawaii and have been replaced by the A321. However, since crews are not integrated, apparently some pmUS-east 757s are being reconfigured to backfill the PHX-Hawaii route. I expect that when AA is down to it's very last few 757s, that's the route they will be on until their last days.

Thanks. I'm bummed, but it is what it is. Had planned to
fly on HA but now you can't use AAdvantage miles for HA
between mainland and HI anymore...sucks! First on HA
would be WAY better than on AA, but nothing I can do
about it.

Reconfigured how?

Quoting TUSAA (Reply 24):
During a town hall meeting with PHX employee"s a few months back, it's was mentioned that the 737 MAX will take over PHX-Hawaii flying.

Neat, but they won't have MAX's a year from now. Thanks anyway,
interesting for the future...and makes sense.

FlyASAGuy2005 · Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:12 am

How about a combined fleet list now that US is technically no more.

What does the fleet look like including PMUS A333s/332s, 757s, 321s/320s/319s, and E190s...

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:05 am

Quoting ckfred (Reply 23):
If you look at next year's schedule after Labor Day, AA is flying 4X daily on ORD-LHR. But, there is only 1 722 scheduled. The other 3 flights are 763s. Given that the route is between major Oneworld hubs, with BA offering 2 flights with AVOD in all classes, as well as F and Y+, it seems that AA is offering an inferior product for anyone not booking J

I think its a safe bet to assume that this route will be 788/9 by the time the Prem Economy seats start rolling out. Its already exclusively (except for one-offs) flown by refurbished 763s.
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us330 · Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:23 pm

Quoting ty97 (Reply 22):
apparently some pmUS-east 757s are being reconfigured to backfill the PHX-Hawaii route. I expect that when AA is down to it's very last few 757s, that's the route they will be on until their last days.

And I expect DFW-HNL/OGG to be the final routes for the 763 in the same way that they were for the DC10

American 767 · Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:14 pm

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 26):
PMUS A333s/332s, 757s, 321s/320s/319s, and E190s...

As far as I know:

A330 : 24
757: 23 not including the PMAA 757s
321: I don't know, but...a lot.
320: 55
319: 93 not including 32 that were delivered fresh out of the production line directly to AA
E190: 20 those are seen only at LGA, BOS and DCA on Shuttle flights.

brooklynchris13 · Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:41 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 29):
E190: 20 those are seen only at LGA, BOS and DCA on Shuttle flights.

Although that is a commonly held belief, it is not exactly true. They can also been seen at PHL, on routes such as PHL-AUS (before its cut) and PHL-HOU. I am sure there are other examples as well...

wn676 · Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:15 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 29):
321: I don't know, but...a lot.

I believe they're up to around 172 now.

wn676 · Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:17 pm

Quoting cathay747 (Reply 25):
Reconfigured how?

Probably to the domestic 14/176 config, since the LUS East birds are configured 12/164 for TATL flying.

ckfred · Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:39 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 29):
E190: 20 those are seen only at LGA, BOS and DCA on Shuttle flights.

I was at ORD last month and noticed some of the AA gates had freshly-painted lead-in lines. Besides the Boeing and Airbus narrowbodies, there was a parking line for the E190. Obviously, a parking line on a lead-in line doesn't mean that aircraft type does or will operated from that airport.

Sevensixtyseven · Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:52 pm

Quoting cathay747 (Reply 25):

N905AW was retired last month, so PHX is down to 901, 902, 904, 906 for non-winglet 757s, and 908, 909, 910, and 207UW. Not too many 757 flights left.

Maverick623 · Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:59 am

Quoting wn676 (Reply 32):
Probably to the domestic 14/176 config, since the LUS East birds are configured 12/164 for TATL flying.

It'll be 12/176 with MCE.

Quoting Sevensixtyseven (Reply 34):
N905AW was retired last month, so PHX is down to 901, 902, 904, 906 for non-winglet 757s, and 908, 909, 910, and 207UW. Not too many 757 flights left.

All except 207 will be retired by the end of next year, and East ships 200-206, and 935-942 will pick up the island flights. 905 actually left GYR yesterday (or maybe early this morning) to VCV I believe to be parted out.

hkcanadaexpat · Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:48 am

Quoting us330 (Reply 28):
And I expect DFW-HNL/OGG to be the final routes for the 763 in the same way that they were for the DC10

Rumours are that the 763 will consolidate into MIA when down to its last batch with the pmUS A330s taking over the DFW-HNL/OGG routes after the A350s start arriving.
A

rta · Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:10 am

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 36):
Rumours are that the 763 will consolidate into MIA when down to its last batch with the pmUS A330s taking over the DFW-HNL/OGG routes after the A350s start arriving.

I thought I heard somewhere on these boards that "MIA is where AA sends their planes to die". I guess there might be some truth in that.

Dtw757 · Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:35 pm

Quoting rta (Reply 37):
I thought I heard somewhere on these boards that "MIA is where AA sends their planes to die". I guess there might be some truth in that.

Not true. MIA hasn't seen scheduled MD80 service in close to 10 years

DiscoverCSG · Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:55 pm

Quoting brooklynchris13 (Reply 30):
Quoting American 767 (Reply 29):
E190: 20 those are seen only at LGA, BOS and DCA on Shuttle flights.

Although that is a commonly held belief, it is not exactly true. They can also been seen at PHL, on routes such as PHL-AUS (before its cut) and PHL-HOU. I am sure there are other examples as well...

The E190 is used on a variety of routes ex-PHL.

FlyASAGuy2005 · Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:18 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 29):

Just flew on one PHL-ATL two weeks ago. CLT-ATL will also get one on odd "slow" days.

hkcanadaexpat · Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:33 pm

N376AN was retired yesterday.
763 fleet down to 45 (20x old seats + 25x new seats).
A

brooklynchris13 · Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:28 pm

Any rumors/updates on a potential DH8 replacement or will the E145s going to Piedmont be able to fully fill that role?

American 767 · Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:02 pm

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 41):
763 fleet down to 45 (20x old seats + 25x new seats).

And it was still at 58 a year ago. 13 of them left the fleet within one year, that's quite a lot.
It will be down to less than 30 in two years from now, when the last MD-80 leaves.

This is how I expect the fleet to be in two years from now:

B737-800 and A321: I don't know how many but...zillions! A gigantic fleet combined.
The delivery of the first 738MAX and A321NEO won't be too far away by then.
However, I think that the early built 738s dating from 1999 and the early 2000s will see their retirement approaching.

B757 domestic: just a few left, they will most likely end their life in MIA. Their retirement won't be too far away by then.
B757 international 20.
B767 less than 30 as I mention above.
A319: 125 I don't think they will add anymore of those.
A320: less than 50, they currently have 55
A330: 24
B777-200: 47 however the beginning of the retirement of those won't be too far away.
B777-300ER: 20
B787-8/9: 42 although I'm not sure if all remaining orders will be filled by then.
CR7/CR9: I don't know how many but...a lot!
E145: I don't know how many but...a lot!
E135/140: gone.
E170: I don't know, but definitely at least 30
E190: probably still 20 as it is now.
The first few A350s will already be delivered.

And no need to explain why I don't mention the MD-80s in my list, because we all know.

In two years from now, the whole fleet, mainline and regional, should be completely repainted which means that both the old AA logo and the last US Airways livery will be history.

Skyguy · Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:13 pm

When will they finish refurbishing the 772's? Seems like its been over 18 months and still just 7 frames reconfigured with F taken out and new J put in.

OB1504 · Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:34 pm

Quoting ty97 (Reply 22):
However, since crews are not integrated, apparently some pmUS-east 757s are being reconfigured to backfill the PHX-Hawaii route.

They're reconfiguring them from the transatlantic configuration to the Hawaii configuration? Is it worth it for what amounts to a stopgap?

Quoting Dtw757 (Reply 38):
Not true. MIA hasn't seen scheduled MD80 service in close to 10 years

But MIA is where the 727 and A300 went to die. The 757 and 767 will soon follow.

Quoting Skyguy (Reply 44):
When will they finish refurbishing the 772's? Seems like its been over 18 months and still just 7 frames reconfigured with F taken out and new J put in.

That's because of delays from the seat supplier. AA got fed up and ended the contract a few years ago.

The first Low J 777 was supposed to enter service on the MIA-CDG route this Sunday but that has been pushed back to the Wednesday before Christmas.

[Edited 2015-12-15 13:36:56]

321neo · Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:56 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 6):
The international 757s will stay a little longer, you'll still see a few of them in the early 2020s, but they will likely be gone at the latest 2025.

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 18):
The main cabin is indistinguishable between a domestic and an international 757.

So they're keeping, and growing, the INTL 757 fleet for at least another 5 years but no WIFI or AVOD in Main Cabin?

ckfred · Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:27 pm

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 45):
But MIA is where the 727 and A300 went to die.

For most of the operational life of the A300 with AA, MIA was the main base. The only time I saw A300s at ORD, they were doing MIA turns, and that was back in the mid 1990s.

Because of the cargo capabilities of the A300, it was the preferred aircraft flying the Caribbean out of SJU and MIA.

commavia · Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:31 pm

Quoting ckfred (Reply 47):
For most of the operational life of the A300 with AA, MIA was the main base. The only time I saw A300s at ORD, they were doing MIA turns, and that was back in the mid 1990s.

You're generally right - the A300s did primarily MIA/JFK flying for most of their time at AA - but they also did other routes out of ORD, including SJU and LAS.

[Edited 2015-12-15 14:32:34]

rta · Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:54 pm

Quoting Dtw757 (Reply 38):
Not true. MIA hasn't seen scheduled MD80 service in close to 10 years

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 45):
But MIA is where the 727 and A300 went to die. The 757 and 767 will soon follow.

I was going to mention this. I thought they primarily kept the MD80s out of MIA because they didn't have overwater equipment for most of the routes out of MIA.

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