Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Sooner787 · Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:33 pm

Interesting the engine nacelles are white?

AA's other jets sport the same silver -ish color as the fuselages
on their engine nacelles

jbs2886 · Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:08 pm

Boeing778X wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
First AA 737 MAX has been painted.

https://twitter.com/FlyingHighRyan/stat ... 1892780034

Incredible! The livery suits the sportiness of the MAX 8 well! Eager to fly on it!

Really? I find it underwhelming with the lack of anything on the winglets.

Polot · Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:21 pm

Sooner787 wrote:
Interesting the engine nacelles are white?

Are they actually white or do they just appear that way because they have the parking stand floodlights shining directly on them? They appear to be similar to the illuminated part of the fuselage.

KarelXWB · Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:34 pm

Flydubai 737 MAX 8 won't enter service until late Q1 2018:

At present, the type is provisionally set to make its maiden appearance from March 25, 2018, onwards with a daily Dubai Int'l-Prague, Czechia, service. It is anticipated that the MAX will be used on other services ahead of this date.

Of the seventy-five B737 MAX it has on order from Boeing (BOE, Chicago O'Hare), flydubai has thus far taken delivery of two, both of which are inactive at this time and in Amman Queen Alia for completion work.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... -late-1q18

Polot · Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:04 pm

Well it says "It is anticipated that the MAX will be used on other services ahead of this date."

Q1 2018 may be when FlyDubai has officially scheduled the aircraft on a route, but in the meantime it could just bounce around their network subbing in for scheduled 738s.

KarelXWB · Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:10 pm

Polot wrote:
but in the meantime it could just bounce around their network subbing in for scheduled 738s.

The aircraft are not ready yet as the seats are being installed after delivery.

Polot · Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:13 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Polot wrote:
but in the meantime it could just bounce around their network subbing in for scheduled 738s.

The aircraft are not ready yet as the seats are being installed after delivery.

Yes, but they have already taken delivery of 2 Max's. I'm not sure it will take 6 months for FlyDubai to get seats in them and all the new aircraft training/induction work done.

ikolkyo · Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:58 pm

Another shot of AA's first 737 MAX flying after getting a paint job.

N324RA by Tyke's Aero Blog

AA's 2nd 737 MAX has also been spotted for the first time, will have registration N304RB

N304RB
by Tyke's Aero Blog, on Flickr

All credit goes to Jeff Berry,
https://tykesaeroblog.blogspot.com/

qf789 · Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:24 am

Southwest N9706W has been delivered

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 3366594561

qf789 · Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:28 am

Southwest N8709Q has had its first flight

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 1662166016

shaneam12 · Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:57 pm

It appears that Southwest may have its first commercial Boeing 737 MAX 8 flight tomorrow, September 18, 2017, ahead of schedule. The routing is currently showing WN47 DAL-HOU, WN47 HOU-SAT, WN636 SAT-DAL. (Registration N8705Q)

ikolkyo · Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:17 pm

shaneam12 wrote:
It appears that Southwest may have its first commercial Boeing 737 MAX 8 flight tomorrow, September 18, 2017, ahead of schedule. The routing is currently showing WN47 DAL-HOU, WN47 HOU-SAT, WN636 SAT-DAL. (Registration N8705Q)

Probably an error, this has happened before. WN cannot operate the 737 MAX with 737 Classic in the fleet.

qf789 · Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:37 am

Third 737MAX8 for FlyDubai (A6-FMB) painted and awaiting B1 flight

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 9822921728

qf789 · Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:40 am

First 4 737MAX for Westjet

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 3022798849

rbavfan · Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:36 am

barney captain wrote:
Quoting PHKLM (Reply 14):Almost 50 years down the line and the 737 still has those frames with a missing window (around row 9/10 on both sides).
Appalling.
Appalling?

Seriously?

Even the 787 has them -

The windowless spots on the 787 is space that usually has Galley/Lavatory/closet space on the plane. They don't need windows there. If they were there they might have to remove components if there is a seal or inner window issue. That would be an expensive repair.

bgm · Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:24 am

rbavfan wrote:
The windowless spots on the 787 is space that usually has Galley/Lavatory/closet space on the plane. They don't need windows there. If they were there they might have to remove components if there is a seal or inner window issue. That would be an expensive repair.

Not true. Look towards the back of the 787, you can see windows missing on both sides.

StTim · Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:51 am

They are where air con ducts go. There are similar positions on the 777 as well.

VirginFlyer · Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:41 am

StTim wrote:
They are where air con ducts go. There are similar positions on the 777 as well.

For the 737 and 777 (and 747 and 767) yes; on the 787 the window gap at the back is for the join of two Harrell sections.

V/F

Sooner787 · Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:04 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
shaneam12 wrote:
It appears that Southwest may have its first commercial Boeing 737 MAX 8 flight tomorrow, September 18, 2017, ahead of schedule. The routing is currently showing WN47 DAL-HOU, WN47 HOU-SAT, WN636 SAT-DAL. (Registration N8705Q)

Probably an error, this has happened before. WN cannot operate the 737 MAX with 737 Classic in the fleet.

Could these be training flights with no Pax?

qf789 · Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:59 pm

Southwest 737MAX8 N8712L first flight underway

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 2834259968

BOEING777EK · Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:04 pm

Does anyone know if the first 737 MAX 8 for Air China is delivered yet?

qf789 · Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:10 pm

BOEING777EK wrote:
Does anyone know if the first 737 MAX 8 for Air China is delivered yet?

No not yet

Sooner787 · Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:34 pm

Polot wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
Interesting the engine nacelles are white?

Are they actually white or do they just appear that way because they have the parking stand floodlights shining directly on them? They appear to be similar to the illuminated part of the fuselage.

I stand corrected, afterseeing that airborne show of AA's Max 8, the engine nacelles
are silver just like the fuselage.

Still can't believe they won't add red paint to the winglet tips

ikolkyo · Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:56 pm

Sooner787 wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
shaneam12 wrote:
It appears that Southwest may have its first commercial Boeing 737 MAX 8 flight tomorrow, September 18, 2017, ahead of schedule. The routing is currently showing WN47 DAL-HOU, WN47 HOU-SAT, WN636 SAT-DAL. (Registration N8705Q)

Probably an error, this has happened before. WN cannot operate the 737 MAX with 737 Classic in the fleet.

Could these be training flights with no Pax?

Pretty sure they are but FR24 is incorrectly reporting them as regular PAX flight, today N8705Q flew a DAL-DEN rotation empty. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n8705q

Boeing778X · Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:00 am

Sooner787 wrote:
Polot wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
Interesting the engine nacelles are white?

Are they actually white or do they just appear that way because they have the parking stand floodlights shining directly on them? They appear to be similar to the illuminated part of the fuselage.

I stand corrected, afterseeing that airborne show of AA's Max 8, the engine nacelles
are silver just like the fuselage.

Still can't believe they won't add red paint to the winglet tips

MTX may add them later after the aircraft enters service.

Especially the lower part of the AT Winglet will need extra attention.

qf789 · Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:41 pm

First flight for Southwest 737MAX N8713M

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 2672534528

ikolkyo · Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:22 pm

WestJet #1 C-FRAX is on its first flight.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-frax

MileHFL400 · Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:25 pm

Anyone got a count on how many have been delivered so far?

boefan · Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:28 pm

MileHFL400 wrote:
Anyone got a count on how many have been delivered so far?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

ikolkyo · Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:16 am

Some nice shots of C-FRAX on its first flight

C-FRAX by Tyke's Aero Blog, on Flickr

airzona11 · Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:10 am

Thanks for all the pictures. Great looking birds

alasizon · Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:27 am

Sooner787 wrote:

Still can't believe they won't add red paint to the winglet tips

I can't imagine they won't. Given the red stripe being added to the regular blended winglets, the MAX winglets certainly deserve them too.

strfyr51 · Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:26 am

PHKLM wrote:
Almost 50 years down the line and the 737 still has those frames with a missing window (around row 9/10 on both sides).
Appalling.

Well ?? Where were they supposed to put the Risers from the air conditioning bay??
This IS a 737 isn't it?? How much do you think they can change and still call it a B737??
They can change a lot of stuff, but they cannot re-engineer the systems to the point of making an entirely NEW airplane and calling it a B737.
You'll have to wait for the B737 replacement and they Still might not change where the Risers are. because I SERIOUSLY doubt they'll re-engineer where the heart of the Air conditioning system is Located... They have the same type of riser system in the later airplanes though they may be a little more refined..

VirginFlyer · Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:26 am

strfyr51 wrote:
PHKLM wrote:
Almost 50 years down the line and the 737 still has those frames with a missing window (around row 9/10 on both sides).
Appalling.

Well ?? Where were they supposed to put the Risers from the air conditioning bay??
This IS a 737 isn't it?? How much do you think they can change and still call it a B737??
They can change a lot of stuff, but they cannot re-engineer the systems to the point of making an entirely NEW airplane and calling it a B737.
You'll have to wait for the B737 replacement and they Still might not change where the Risers are. because I SERIOUSLY doubt they'll re-engineer where the heart of the Air conditioning system is Located... They have the same type of riser system in the later airplanes though they may be a little more refined..

Actually it is only 33 years - the 737-100 and -200 had a series of smaller risers which went between the standard window gap; I believe the single wider riser configuration on the newer aircraft was less maintenance intensive.

V/F

KarelXWB · Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:14 pm

Close-up on WestJet #1:

Boeing 737 MAX 8 WestJet C-FNAX by Huy Do, on Flickr

Boeing 737 MAX 8 WestJet N6069R by Huy Do, on Flickr

qf789 · Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:40 am

FlyDubai 737MAX8 A6-FMB has undergone first flight

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 1625037824

ikolkyo · Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:19 pm

Nice video of D8 737 MAX action at EDI
https://youtu.be/8ruzMCHIPvY

pugman211 · Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:47 pm

Nice video, and thank you. 2 things I noticed though. What's with the gap in the L/E slats?? Is it on the B737NG's as well???

And 2nd, obviously, I'm no expert here but that rotate looks close ( I know and accept it could be normal) but how is the max 10 gonna cope/perform on rotation? Mind you, its getting a revised gear isnt it.

Please note, this isn't bashing the max, just general questions.

Thanks

VirginFlyer · Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:27 pm

pugman211 wrote:
Nice video, and thank you. 2 things I noticed though. What's with the gap in the L/E slats?? Is it on the B737NG's as well???

I think that's a painted marking of some sort rather than a gap; notice how it is still visible with the leading edge slats retracted. Here are a couple of photos, one of a Batik Air MAX 8 showing there is no gap, and the other of a Norwegian one which makes it a bit easier to tell it is a painted marking:

Norwegians 737-800s also appear to have the same marking:

I have no Inde what purpose it serves sorry- at a guess it might be to make icing more visible, though I'm not sure why that would be needed on only a small section, and wouldn't be standard across the type.

V/F

737max8 · Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:32 am

boefan wrote:
MileHFL400 wrote:
Anyone got a count on how many have been delivered so far?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

Great stuff...by this time next week WN will be the largest operator of 737 MAX - a title I imagine they will never let go of.

Norwegian can enjoy it for a few more days

MileHFL400 · Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:20 am

737max8 wrote:
boefan wrote:
MileHFL400 wrote:
Anyone got a count on how many have been delivered so far?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

Great stuff...by this time next week WN will be the largest operator of 737 MAX - a title I imagine they will never let go of.

Norwegian can enjoy it for a few more days

Until Ryanair orders more

737max8 · Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:54 pm

And WN won't? Or maybe the 797 will be live by then...

YVRda · Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:21 pm

Any sign of Air Canada's first 737 Max out and about yet?

george77300 · Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:55 pm

MileHFL400 wrote:
737max8 wrote:
boefan wrote:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

Great stuff...by this time next week WN will be the largest operator of 737 MAX - a title I imagine they will never let go of.

Norwegian can enjoy it for a few more days

Until Ryanair orders more

Ryanair have 400ish planes with 100 737Max on order. Southwest have 700ish planes with 200 on order. There is no way Southwest will ever lose the largest MAX operator for a long long time.

lightsaber · Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:21 pm

737max8 wrote:
boefan wrote:
MileHFL400 wrote:
Anyone got a count on how many have been delivered so far?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

Great stuff...by this time next week WN will be the largest operator of 737 MAX - a title I imagine they will never let go of.

Norwegian can enjoy it for a few more days

ROTFL.

Already a competition.

As later posts noted, WN is significantly larger than FR. But FR does rotate out aircraft faster... Hmmm...

Lightsaber

Leslieville · Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:36 pm

Thanks for the photos of the new WestJet 737Max8s. WestJet's livery suits the plane well, which makes sense because they're a single type operator, and I like how they've brought livery elements from the tail to the split scimitar winglets.

jbs2886 · Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:29 pm

Leslieville wrote:
Thanks for the photos of the new WestJet 737Max8s. WestJet's livery suits the plane well, which makes sense because they're a single type operator, and I like how they've brought livery elements from the tail to the split scimitar winglets.

WestJet also operates 767s and the Encore sub operates Q400s...

boefan · Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:43 pm

Southwest has taken delivery of their 7th 737Max N8707P

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA8700

Former 9M-LRC has entered commercial service today as PK-LQK after 1 month at SZB

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/pk-lqk#

9M-LRD was ferried also today to SZB for mods and repaint and is scheduled to be redelivered to Lion Air next month

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9m-lrd#

ikolkyo · Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:43 pm

boefan wrote:
Southwest has taken delivery of their 7th 737Max N8707P

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA8700

Former 9M-LRC has entered commercial service today as PK-LQK after 1 month at SZB

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/pk-lqk#

9M-LRD was ferried also today to SZB for mods and repaint and is scheduled to be redelivered to Lion Air next month

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9m-lrd#

I’m surprised that they just had the aircraft parked for over a month instead of flying around until it was time for mods.

heavy747 · Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:55 pm

pugman211 wrote:
Nice video, and thank you. 2 things I noticed though. What's with the gap in the L/E slats?? Is it on the B737NG's as well???

Thanks

This is just a guess, but given the winter weather in Norway and many of the places these planes will fly, the black strip could be used as an indicator to the pilots to see if ice is forming on their wings. Look like the pilots would be able to see that black mark from the flight deck.

- Andrew

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