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Re: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 7

Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:23 pm

First delivery of the year:

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Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:28 pm

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Next up:

Airbus A320 -216 7417 HS-BBY Thai AirAsia delivery 30-31dec16 TLS-DWC-DMK ex F-WWDC

Aircraft type should be Airbus A320-251N
 
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Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:36 pm

Delivery of two Airbus A320neo planes to Air India delayed

Air India has opted for CFM-LEAP-1A26 engines to power these A320neo planes

The delivery of first two Airbus A320neo planes to Air India has been delayed by a month due to engine issues and the national carrier is now expected to induct these more fuel-efficient aircraft next month.

As per the earlier schedule, the airline was to take delivery of the two A320neo (new engine option) planes this month as part of its narrow-body fleet expansion plans.

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Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:11 pm

CFM is behind schedule in terms of production ramp-up.
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CFM is behind schedule in terms of production ramp-up.


So both engines are having industrialization issues.
 
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Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:56 pm

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CFM is behind schedule in terms of production ramp-up.

Do you have more information? I've seen some stats on completed airframes sans engines. We know EIS was a bit delayed and the

But I'm being too lazy to go through the production list and find how many CFM, and how many Pratt. Has anyone created a summary?

https://www.planespotters.net/productio ... 20/A320neo

To say the least, I didn't expect the rate to be so low as it is now.
Good thing Airbus oversold the A320CEO...

Now what will Boeing do? They really need LEAP-1B engines in vast quantities. So I ask, is there evidence of preferential shipments to Boeing? I don't know, I simply ask.

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Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:50 pm

I guess the "one month delay" says it all. There is no real issue.
CFM is nearly catched up. Nearly all CFM with MSN below 7400 are delivered. Only the test frames and MSN 7181 (seems to have a special issue) is left. The 1st Air Indias are MSN 7459+7475. MSNs you would expect to be delivered this month.
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Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:54 am

Is AI going with CFM? Wonder why they didn't go with PW
 
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Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:42 pm

GoAir's 5th A320neo - MSN 7330 - performed a taxi test today.

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Does anyone know when the first B6 A320NEO will be delivered or enter final assembly?
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Now what will Boeing do? They really need LEAP-1B engines in vast quantities. So I ask, is there evidence of preferential shipments to Boeing? I don't know, I simply ask.


CFM is a 50/50 GE and Safran joint company. I have always assumed that engines produced at the French factories would go to Airbus, and engines from the US factories would go to Boeing. I have no idea if that is the case. The CEO and President of CFM is French, and there is one VP/GM each for GE and Safran. LEAP Program Manager is also French. Since Boeings customers doesn't have a choice of engine manufacturer, I would naturally assume that any preferential treatment, if that is the case, would go where future orders may be lost to P&W.
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Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:59 pm

Which airframe manufacturer gets "preferential treatment," if there is any, is probably entirely dependent on the contracts between CFM and Airbus and CFM and Boeing and the relative penalties of being late in one contract versus another, and how many frames could potentially be impacted. A choice of engines just means that CFM has to put a more competitive package together for the airline, not Airbus or Boeing. Once the engine is selected CFM knows that the airline can't suddenly change engines and expect quick immediate delivery vs waiting out CFM delay.

If anything I would expect CFM to preferentially delivery to Boeing because they are the sole engine supplier. That likely comes to a greater cost to CFM if they don't deliver as Boeing is 100% reliant on them, while Airbus is only ~50% reliant on CFM.
 
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I would think that Airbus has preference over Boeing because they were the first to order the engines.
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Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:26 pm

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Does anyone know when the first B6 A320NEO will be delivered or enter final assembly?


Sometime in 2018. It'll be a PW powered a321neo.
 
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Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:43 pm

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I guess the "one month delay" says it all. There is no real issue.


Nobody claimed there was a real issue. Just that engine deliveries do not match Airbus' assembly schedule, which is not unusual for a new engine.

Of course, the LEAP still flies with an open compressor, but that shouldn't affect engine deliveries.

I will not post the P&W data as comparision because it would make you very sad.


Ignoring the QR aircraft, most of the old P&W inventory was delivered in Q4 2016.
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Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:44 pm

MSN 7459 made its first flight today.

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Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:14 pm

I will not post the P&W data as comparision because it would make you very sad.


Ignoring the QR aircraft, most of the old P&W inventory was delivered in Q4 2016.


PW is still in the low 73xx, this is 100 MSNs lower e.g. 2 months delay to CFM and 3 months to standard.
Of course we can ignore QR, but this should helped situation. So the real delay is even larger.
 
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Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:33 pm

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PW is still in the low 73xx, this is 100 MSNs lower e.g. 2 months delay to CFM and 3 months to standard.


Compared to where they came from, that's a rather small delay.

About 12 months ago Airbus had close to 30 A320neo aircraft in storage. Today most of them are gone. More important, Airbus doesn't seem to be storing new A320neo aircraft anymore. That's a good sign as it indicates that P&W deliveries are catching up.

Nothing to be "very sad" about as you claimed.

Of course we can ignore QR


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Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:13 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
sciing wrote:

Of course we can ignore QR


They are not going anywhere soon. Qatar won't take them.


These undelivered frames actually help Airbus and PW to deliver to other customers, as they can be stored engineless for a while until re-assigned
 
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Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:24 am

Azul receives its 6th A320neo today:

Airbus A320 -251N 7409 PR-YRF Azul Linhas Aéreas delivery 19jan17 TLS-SID-CNF ex F-WWBN
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KarelXWB wrote:
CFM is behind schedule in terms of production ramp-up.

Do you have more information? I've seen some stats on completed airframes sans engines. We know EIS was a bit delayed and the


It's now out in the open. According to GE, only 77 LEAP engines were shipped in 2016, instead of 100 planned.

https://twitter.com/R_Wall/status/822443780146135040

Target for 2017 is 500 engines.

https://twitter.com/R_Wall/status/822443551938277376
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Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:06 pm

MSN 7269, China Southern's 3rd A320neo, performed its first flight yesterday:

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Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:32 pm

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MSN 7269, China Southern's 3rd A320neo, performed its first flight yesterday:


Strange the unpainted rudder. The frame has been standing around long enough without engines, it should have been possible to finish it painted and all.
 
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Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:25 pm

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Which airframe manufacturer gets "preferential treatment," if there is any, is probably entirely dependent on the contracts between CFM and Airbus and CFM and Boeing and the relative penalties of being late in one contract versus another, and how many frames could potentially be impacted. A choice of engines just means that CFM has to put a more competitive package together for the airline, not Airbus or Boeing. Once the engine is selected CFM knows that the airline can't suddenly change engines and expect quick immediate delivery vs waiting out CFM delay.

If anything I would expect CFM to preferentially delivery to Boeing because they are the sole engine supplier. That likely comes to a greater cost to CFM if they don't deliver as Boeing is 100% reliant on them, while Airbus is only ~50% reliant on CFM.

Polot, well reasoned post. I'm going to lay out some points to ponder:
1. There are about twice as many Boeing engines per year as Airbus. Not favoring Boeing is favoring competition instead of exclusive sales.
2. Do not forget Mobile.
3. Some engines are maintained where built, so I expect a mix in both plants.
4. The CFM-56 backlog is marginal on both Airframes. Due to how much better the V2500 is on the A321 and ramp to slight majority A321 production, advantage Pratt on CEOs.
5. Do not forget PW1100s are also assembled by MTU in partnership.

KarlXWB has let us know LEAP was 23 engines short. I see zero evidence even one Boeing engine was delayed.

Now I'm not ignoring Pratt's issues. They are well documented and discussed. I'm trying to get a accurate assessment of the current production rate of both.

Max production Will rap quickly. Since Pratt has handicapped themselves, my crude game theory analysis says CFM should favor Boeing. I'm curious to see what really happens.

MAXes going out without engines are CFM's fault. NEOs will be assumed a Pratt issue. So the optics also favor favoring Boeing. For the record, I'm a NEO fan (as a Pratt fan, do I have a choice?).

It has been since WW2 that such an industrial effort has occurred in aviation engines. We're seeing economies of scale finally allowing the adoption of automotive practices.

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Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:07 pm

If you take the 23 number serious, it was not said engine shortfall in the tweet, but coordination issues.
You can of course not deliver engines if there are no frames for it.
I do not see the 11 frames that were near ready for delivery in 2016.
 
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sciing wrote:
If you take the 23 number serious, it was not said engine shortfall in the tweet, but coordination issues.
You can of course not deliver engines if there are no frames for it.
I do not see the 11 frames that were near ready for delivery in 2016.


There were of course not ready for delivery, a bit hard to do that without engines. Airbus kept also pushing ceo frames at the end of the year to keep the numbers up
They managed record deliveries of 545 A320 series frames.

It would be quite a bit of work to demonstrate to you all A320 frames that stood around engine less before end of 2016. But there were about 30 neo frames and about 10 of them for the LEAP engine. As it is, Airbus would have to deliver 12 A320-25X to reach MSN7499 about the MSN range that ceo frames are doing their first flights and getting delivered at TLS and XFW now.
 
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Re: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 7

Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:03 pm

MSN 6772, ex-QR, has been refurbished to IndiGo standard.

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Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:33 pm

I hope that QR is charged for the cost of the repaint as well as other fines! It would be interesting to know how Airbus handles this cancellation by QR!
 
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Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:37 pm

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I hope that QR is charged for the cost of the repaint as well as other fines! It would be interesting to know how Airbus handles this cancellation by QR!

Lol QR won't face any "fines" or be charged for the repaint for 2 reasons:

1) At the end of day Airbus/PW are responsible for a large portion of the QR drama. QR didn't screw up the engines.
2) QR is switching to all A321s, and I doubt that switch came free (since A321 more expensive).
 
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Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:59 pm

That's funny though because approx 5 A321neo's are in the system at the FAL and Qatar have deferred those as well, so when do they plan to take them?
 
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Latest updates on the PW1100G engine:

Pratt says it built 62 GTF engines in Q4

UTC says Pratt will ship improved combustor liner, carbon seals for GTF this year

This would be 3rd generation of GTF combustor, says UTC. Current liner suffering particularly in harsh environments, like India

TC CFO says GTF production run-rate in Q4 & Jan encouraging. Sticks with 2017 delivery plans of 350-400 engines


https://twitter.com/R_Wall

And an article:

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ty-433512/

Speaking on a fourth quarter earnings, Hayes acknowledged that some GTF operators, especially in India, have reported reliability concerns about a fuel seal and a combustor liner. In response, P&W will deliver upgraded parts to retrofit later this year. Meanwhile, P&W has dipped into a pool of spare engines to help meet aircraft dispatch targets, he says.

“These are just normal growing pains on any new engine,” Hayes adds. “Nothing that’s causing us to lose a lot of sleep.”
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Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:01 pm

Not sure what's going on with Frontier's second A320neo (MSN 7181): Flo the Flamingo got its engines removed and was moved to the storage area.

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Not sure what's going on with Frontier's second A320neo (MSN 7181): Flo the Flamingo got its engines removed and was moved to the storage area.

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I read on another forum that CFM are having problem delivering engines fast enough. Don't know anything more about it though.
 
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Not sure what's going on with Frontier's second A320neo (MSN 7181): Flo the Flamingo got its engines removed and was moved to the storage area.

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According to this person on twitter it's been rejected due to some internal damage.

https://twitter.com/TheAviationBeat/sta ... 8944571392
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I read on another forum that CFM are having problem delivering engines fast enough. Don't know anything more about it though.


Yes CFM delivered less LEAP engines than planned in 2016, but MSN 7181 did have engines installed so it's curious that the powerplants have been removed.

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KarelXWB wrote:
Bostrom wrote:
I read on another forum that CFM are having problem delivering engines fast enough. Don't know anything more about it though.


Yes CFM delivered less LEAP engines than planned in 2016, but MSN 7181 did have engines installed so it's curious that the powerplants have been removed.

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Interesting, I was wondering where N302FR was when I was looking at the FR neo fleet a few days ago. I'd love to know the reason for the removal of the engines.
 
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I would like to know what the "internal damage" is, that has apparently caused FR to reject the aircraft, and what will happen to it next!
 
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Has the first A319neo flown yet? Any photos with engines installed? (sorry, haven't checked this thread in a while)
 
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Has the first A319neo flown yet? Any photos with engines installed? (sorry, haven't checked this thread in a while)


No and no.
 
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Earlier this month Airbus CEO Fabrice Bregier revealed that A319neo certification is due for 2018, based on current customer demand. Taking that piece of information into account, first flight should happen around mid-2017.
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:17 pm

A320neo storage area as of today:

- GoAir, P&W, engine supply shortage
- China Southern, P&W, delayed over certification issues at the CAAC
- SAS, CFM, engine supply shortage
- AirAsia, CFM, engine supply shortage
- Frontier, CFM, rejected by the customer

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Meanwhile P&W aircraft are heading into the MSN 74xx as MSN 7449 got its engines installed.

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A320neo storage area as of today:

- Frontier, CFM, rejected by the customer



Has the entire plane been rejected or is it just the engine(s)?
 
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:05 pm

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KarelXWB wrote:
A320neo storage area as of today:

- Frontier, CFM, rejected by the customer



Has the entire plane been rejected or is it just the engine(s)?


Claims further up the thread says "Internal damage". Not sure how reliable those claims are though.
Perhaps QR's pickiness is contagious and have spread to Frontier? ;)
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Volaris second A320neo, MSN 7102, performed a second test flight yesterday.

Volaris first A320neo was delivered in September 2016, not sure why their second delivery is so far out.

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Citilink's first A320neo, MSN 7466 (assembled at TLS), has been painted and CHR and was ferried to XFW for cabin fit.

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Arrival at XFW.

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Air India's second A320neo, MSN 7475, completed a RTO today. First flight to follow soon.

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Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos