Airbus A320neo family production thread - 2015-2017 (part 7)

speedygonzales · Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:54 am

Quoting sirtoby (Reply 122):
There she is:
http://www.flightradar24.com/AIB1XA/

Quite long first flight, 5:50 in the air.

N14AZ · Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:57 am

Quoting LSZH34 (Reply 131):
More from Airbus

The last picture is nice.... but a local spotter made a better shot just some moments later:

Source: http://www.aviation-friends-hamburg-forum.de/showthread.php?tid=10462

starbucks · Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:23 am

Looking for your (everyone who follows the neo) opinion.

I think it's time to stop logging the A320neo with P&W engines, they're not flying as much anymore and the flying that remains can be categorized as "Further Development"
It has been certified for about 3.5 months now and today the second operator takes delivery of their aircraft.

I think what remains are some ETOPS trials and maybe some validation flights when the engine fix is finalized.

But again, also looking for your opinion

Egerton · Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:59 am

Quoting Starbucks (Reply 136):

But again, also looking for your opinion

Thanks for asking.
For what it is worth, I am only interested in deviations from expected outcomes, not the 99% which is going normally.

starbucks · Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:24 pm

VT-ITC MSN6799 is the lucky one:

http://twitter.com/IndiGo6E/status/707901958812606465

[Edited 2016-03-10 04:25:15]

Someone83 · Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:27 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 133):
IndiGo is receiving their first A320neo today.

Anyone know when the delivery flight is scheduled?

starbucks · Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:18 pm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 139):
Anyone know when the delivery flight is scheduled?

According to this tweet landing is expected at 7AM (Probably tomorrow Indian Time)
http://twitter.com/shukla_tarun/status/707931835339132928

Included a picture at the big delivery center spot:

KarelXWB · Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:28 pm

Quoting Starbucks (Reply 132):
A321neo with CFM is back in action

And already going for a second flight today: http://fr24.com/AIB07XB/90d95f0

Revelation · Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:57 pm

Quoting LSZH34 (Reply 131):
More from Airbus

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 135):
The last picture is nice.... but a local spotter made a better shot just some moments later:

Thanks. It's clear to me the A321neo with PW is going to be the most photogenic of the family. The biggest fans on the longest family member just looks right to me. However, to my eyes the shots from the rear shows how much better the a/c could be with a bigger wing that could hold more fuel and develop more lift with less drag. I'd love to see an A322 with an all-new CFRP wing.

mjoelnir · Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:12 pm

Quoting Starbucks (Reply 136):
Looking for your (everyone who follows the neo) opinion.

I think it's time to stop logging the A320neo with P&W engines, they're not flying as much anymore and the flying that remains can be categorized as "Further Development"
It has been certified for about 3.5 months now and today the second operator takes delivery of their aircraft.

I think what remains are some ETOPS trials and maybe some validation flights when the engine fix is finalized.

But again, also looking for your opinion

Airbus has said some of the flying is not engine dependent and perhaps not even dependent on it being a A319,320 or 321. So I would keep logging all frames until all are certified. Especially as MSN6101 was to replace MSN1 as the standard development frame, all others are supposed to be sold, so we should see them to stop flying and being refurbished.

KarelXWB · Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:39 pm

A flight plan has been submitted...

Quote:
Airbus A320 -271N 6799 VT-ITC IndiGo Airlines delivery 10mar16 TLS-DEL ex F-WWDM

KarelXWB · Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:22 pm

Looks like the P&W powered A321neo is already equipped with the higher thrust PW1135G engine.

http://atwonline.com/engines/airbus-...st-a321neo-test-flight-gtf-engines

Thunderboltdrgn · Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:20 pm

D-AVVB is on her way home as AIB643.

http://www.flightradar24.com/AIB643/90e9ad7

pugman211 · Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:35 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 125):

AAB can't be that bothered as he is not stopping delivery of neo aircraft assemblies to the FAL.

scbriml · Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:49 am

Quoting Richard28 (Reply 129):
I wonder if the walk away clause is just for the engine, or enables him to walk from the neo metal as well?

Maybe he can, but I don't see what QR would gain from that. Maybe he'd look at CSeries again?

Quoting pugman211 (Reply 147):
AAB can't be that bothered as he is not stopping delivery of neo aircraft assemblies to the FAL.

He isn't. It's just his usual hot air and bluster.

starbucks · Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:11 am

LH's third neo has been fitted with its engines:

A320neo Lufthansa D-AINC by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:15 am

Quoting Starbucks (Reply 149):
LH's third neo has been fitted with its engines:

Now they just have to deliver the second one...

sirtoby · Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:37 am

Indigo does some training...

http://www.flightradar24.com/IGO8001/91920f0

The aircraft will be displayed at an airshow in Hyderabad later this week, so I expect EIS next week.

KarelXWB · Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:49 am

Dude, where's my airplane? Check the backyard!

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Radu Dobrescu - RoSpotters

queb · Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:22 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 152):
Dude, where's my airplane? Check the backyard!

it's here:
http://www.google.ca/maps/place/Toul...1!1s0x0:0x66f417d01d8268f6!6m1!1e1

tilted view:
http://www.google.ca/maps/place/Toul...1!1s0x0:0x66f417d01d8268f6!6m1!1e1

[Edited 2016-03-15 06:23:11]

starbucks · Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:06 pm

Jujug Spotting took a really nice one of D-AVXB (A321) today:

Airbus A321 NEO D-AVXB by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

If you look closely you can see something of the repairs made after the tailstrike it seems.

KarelXWB · Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:24 pm

IndiGo takes its second A320neo today.

Quote:
Airbus A320 -271N 6819 VT-ITD IndiGo Airlines delivery 15mar16 TLS-DEL ex F-WWBK

lightsaber · Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:35 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 145):
Looks like the P&W powered A321neo is already equipped with the higher thrust PW1135G engine.

Is it? I thought the certification happened with the LR?

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 155):
IndiGo takes its second A320neo today.

Interesting.. I'm curious as to what is happening...

Lightsaber

atal17 · Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:42 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 156):

indiGo has planned to take 3 by the end of March.

They've already started rapidly adding frequencies across the Indian domestic network.

KarelXWB · Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:49 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 156):
I thought the certification happened with the LR?

I don't think so, the engine was offered before Airbus launched the LR.

Aviaponcho · Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:24 am

Yes it was linked to hot and high (Denver) and short (Santos Dumont if I recall well)

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-ne...-allows-pratt-extend-thrust-rating

(Mexico and Bogota as well)

mfranjic · Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:55 pm

I apologize if I am wrong, but to my knowledge,

. PW1135G-JM engine has not been certified yet. At least I haven´t seen it in any of the publicly available certification sheets.
This, of course, does not mean that this type of engine could not be installed already on the test aircraft A321-271n, MSN 6673, reg. D-AVXA...

These are the engines aimed for the family of the

. A320neo aircrafts, and that were certified till now...

. . .

.

. A320neo aircrafts delivered so far...

.

Nice regards

Mario

starbucks · Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:25 pm

F-WWIV, the plane used as extra flight test frame is now painted in IndiGo colors and has it's engines removed too:

IndiGo Airbus A320-271n(WL) cn 6720 F-WWIV // VT-ITB by Clément Alloing, on Flickr

speedygonzales · Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:06 pm

D-AVVA, MSN 6286, was just ferried to XFW. Is it being withdrawn from flight testing?

sirtoby · Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:12 pm

Yes - it will be delivered to LAN later.

sirtoby · Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:41 am

The first Indigo A320neo VT-ITC is now in revenue service:

http://www.flightradar24.com/IGO939/9214105

Thunderboltdrgn · Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:39 pm

The first US built A321 will perform it's first flight in about one hour according to Fr24.

Quoting FR24:

1 hour until 1st flight of the 1st US-built @AirbusInTheUS A321 Callsign: AIB5121

http://www.flightradar24.com/30.68,-88.13/11

*edit callsign update: AIB52121 is the correct callsign.

http://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/711907823387615232

[Edited 2016-03-21 06:42:00]

Thunderboltdrgn · Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:11 pm

"Pushing back from the delivery center... takeoff minutes away! #AirbusInAlabama"

Short video in link below:

http://twitter.com/AirbusInTheUS/status/711917427567759360

trex8 · Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:22 pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/geminijet2/status/711934399365820416
Airborne!! Congrats to the folks in Mobile!

BobMUC · Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:55 pm

Quoting Thunderboltdrgn (Reply 165):
The first US built A321 will perform it's first flight in about one hour according to Fr24.

Wrong thread because it's not a A320neo but still
CONGRATULATION to Airbus USA!

Revelation · Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:19 pm

First Mobile Built A321 Rolls Out (by KarelXWB Feb 24 2016 in Civil Aviation)

is about the US A321CEO launch.

Congrats to Airbus either way!

[Edited 2016-03-21 10:05:01]

starbucks · Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:00 am

The first neo for VivaAerobus (MSN7060) has completed assembly:

A320 VIVA AEROBUS MSN 7060 F-WWDY by Jérémy Le roch, on Flickr

starbucks · Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:43 pm

IndiGo's fourth A320neo is currently on it's first flight:
www.fr24.com/AIB01BN, probably heading to XFW later in the flight.

Also in XFW another IndiGo neo (MSN6744, VT-ITA) has been seen at the flightline/delivery center, http://www.digitalairliners.com/toulouse/?p=1126
Trying to get confirmed if engines installed.

[Edited 2016-03-23 07:46:46]

[Edited 2016-03-23 07:49:04]

starbucks · Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:29 pm

GoAir's first neo secretly snuck out on it's first flight:

http://xfw-spotter.blogspot.nl/2016/...go-air-f-wwdf-vt-wga-msn-7047.html

starbucks · Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:35 pm

If true we have the first double delivery today (and maybe complete with the first hardware engine fix)

According to skyliner:
IndiGo takes delivery of VT-ITA (MSN6744) today:

Quote:
Airbus A320 -271N 6744 VT-ITA IndiGo Airlines delivery 31mar16 XFW-DEL ex D-AXAH

Lufthansa takes delivery of D-AINB (MSN6864) today:

Quote:
Airbus A320 -271N 6864 D-AINB Lufthansa delivery 31mar16 XFW-FRA ex D-AXAX

Let's see if they actually fly home today

pugman211 · Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:30 pm

Looks like the China FAL will start building Neo's next year.

lightsaber · Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:52 pm

Quoting starbucks (Reply 173):
and maybe complete with the first hardware engine fix)

That is driving me nuts! Any source of mine that would know is out of communication right now. Sigh...

I'm waiting on range confirmation. Only the increase to 3,700nm for all NEOs. That is a good sign...

FWIW, I have zero new information on the LEAP. That probably means one of the fuel burn fixes worked as planned. I believe the slightly late EIS is to accommodate the 2nd fix.

Lightsaber

bobdino · Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:42 pm

Quoting starbucks (Reply 173):
Lufthansa takes delivery of D-AINB (MSN6864) today:

LH confirmed via Twitter:

http://twitter.com/lufthansa/status/715539332304543746

mfranjic · Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:57 pm

Lufthansa´s 2nd

. A320-271n - MSN 6864, reg. D-AINB, was delivered today by the flight LH9875, on the route from XFW to FRA.

The other one, that IndiGo´s, A320-271n - MSN 6744, reg. VT-ITA, is on its way home…

.

The aircrafts of the type

. A320-271n are powered by twin

. PW1127G-JM geared turbofans - F]G[3LPC-8HPC ^ 2HPT-3LPT, rated at 120,43 kN / 12.280 kgf / 27.075 lbf.

A320neo aircrafts delivered so far ...

.

Nice regards

Mario

lightsaber · Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:15 am

Quoting mfranjic (Reply 177):
A320neo aircrafts delivered so far ...

I appreciate the summary.

I expected so many more by now...

Lightsaber

speedygonzales · Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:41 am

Quoting starbucks (Reply 173):
Lufthansa takes delivery of D-AINB (MSN6864) today:

Already entered service doing LH72/75 FRA-DUS-FRA today.

Sooner787 · Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:13 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 178):

I appreciate the summary.

I expected so many more by now...

Lightsaber

AS did I. I'm watching for QATAR's first NEO delivery.

In my mind, that's when we'll know the P&W issues have been ironed out.

lightsaber · Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:19 pm

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 180):
. I'm watching for QATAR's first NEO delivery.

In my mind, that's when we'll know the P&W issues have been ironed out.

I believe QR has overexpanded so I think they are finding excuses to delay aircraft.

We'll know the Pratt NEOs are good once deliveries hit stride as in 6E accepting multiple every month and at least one other airline accepting multiple per month.

Lightsaber

mfranjic · Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:39 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 178):
I appreciate the summary.

I am glad You do. Thank You, lightsaber. Honestly, it took me incomparably more time and effort to summarize all the A380s in the way I did the other day in the thread ´A380 Production Thread Part 23´, than to sum up those few A320neos…

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 178):
I expected so many more by now...

… and who of us could have predicted, just six months ago, that, at this moment, we will have so few delivered A320neo aircrafts, but such appearances are an integral part of the life. The things do not always go in the way we have imagined, and the beginnings, very often, can be very painful and heavy. In the recent years, at least concerning the civil aviation, it has become almost a regular occurrence. A very innovative and sometimes insufficiently researched technologies and technical solutions are introduced in the production processes, resulting by some unexpectedly bad occurrences in the regular use, requiring further re-designing, reconstructions and changes in the manufacturing and the materials, and all that take lot of time and financial resources. Is it even necessary to mention under how big, almost unbearable, pressure it has to be done? After all, in all those factories work human beings who have their lives, personal concerns and problems, and for that, mostly, nobody cares ...

Nice regards

Mario

planewasted · Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:54 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 181):
I believe QR has overexpanded so I think they are finding excuses to delay aircraft.

We'll know the Pratt NEOs are good once deliveries hit stride as in 6E accepting multiple every month and at least one other airline accepting multiple per month.

Qatar is starting an airline in Saudi Arabia:
http://www.almahaairways.com/
but it seems to be delayed because of licence issues, some info here:
http://dohanews.co/official-qatars-a...ys-to-launch-in-saudi-by-year-end/

They have already taken delivery of A320s in the Al Maha livery. I flew a Qatar flight DOH-AUH this Christmas and it used an A320 in Al Maha livery. Took the flight a few weeks ago too. Still operated by an Al Maha aircraft. So I guess they have surplus A320s because of this.
Could it be part of the reason for delaying the A320NEO deliveries?

Edit: A thread from almost 18 month ago showing a plane already built: First A320 For Al Maha Airways Spotted (by KarelXWB Oct 29 2014 in Civil Aviation)

[Edited 2016-04-01 14:56:29]

Who is online

Popular Searches On Airliners.net