Airbus A320neo family production thread - 2015-2017 (part 7)

KarelXWB · Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:59 am

Frontier's next A320neo has been named "Chocolate the Moose"

F-WWIU by cliper31, on Flickr

ikolkyo · Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:00 am

Yep, they're running out of ideas with these names.

lostsound · Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:24 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
Yep, they're running out of ideas with these names.

While silly, I think it's playing on the dessert "Chocolate Mousse" which is kind of clever. lol

speedygonzales · Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:38 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Frontier's next A320neo has been named "Chocolate the Moose"

F-WWIU by cliper31, on Flickr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAsYwW7pt7o

NeBaNi · Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:02 am

KarelXWB wrote:
Frontier's next A320neo has been named "Chocolate the Moose"

F-WWIU by cliper31, on Flickr

I think it's pretty clever, moose sounds exactly like mousse when you say it out loud!

KarelXWB · Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:49 am

Second easyJet A320neo comes with the same NEO decals as the first aircraft:

easyJet Airbus A320-251N(WL) cn 7705 F-WWTN // G-UZHB by Clément Alloing, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:04 am

Novair becomes the 3rd A321neo operator:

Airbus A321 -251N 7746 SE-RKA Novair delivery 29jun17 XFW-GOT-OSL ex D-AVXH

KarelXWB · Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:13 am

KarelXWB wrote:
Earlier this month Premium AEROTEC delivered the first A321 fuselage section with the new door configuration.

The extensive changes to the construction primarily facilitate better use of the passenger cabin, enabling the cabin capacity to be expanded from the original 220 passengers to accommodate 240 passengers without increasing the length of the fuselage. These are the most comprehensive changes to the A321 since it was first developed in 1992. Significant differences compared to the existing A321 are a new arrangement of the passenger doors and modernisation of the emergency exit doors in the central section. Furthermore, optional additional fuel tanks can be integrated into the fuselage in order to extend the aircraft’s range. For example, airline companies using the A321neo ACF will be able to fly coast to coast across the US in the future. This model will also offer on-board internet access right from the first aircraft. All of the changes were undertaken using state-of-the-art 3D construction tools.

Press release
https://www.premium-aerotec.com/en/medi ... to-airbus/

Flightglobal published some additional technical information:

Premium Aerotec says it has overhauled construction of "almost the entire fuselage" to produce the structure.

It states that tooling such as the riveting stations needed to be extended to deal with longer skin panels for the aircraft's new section 17.

The company has previously stated that the section 17 shell for the A321 is around 9m in length but that the larger version for the A321neo ACF is around 12m. It says it delivered the shipset for the aircraft on time in June.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... pe-438893/

StTim · Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:06 am

This is the first time I have heard that the fuel capacity of the standard A321 is being increased. I suspect this was a known when discussing the A321LR plans.

airbazar · Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:19 am

hOMSaR wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
Furthermore, optional additional fuel tanks can be integrated into the fuselage in order to extend the aircraft’s range. For example, airline companies using the A321neo ACF will be able to fly coast to coast across the US in the future.

I thought the A321neo already had coast-to-coast range. Even later deliveries of the A321ceo can do it. Are they referring to full-Y config and max payload? Or MIA-SEA, BOS-LAX?[/quote]

Yeah that comment made no sense to me. Not only have ACT's been common on the A321 since they were first launched, but A321's have been flying coast-to-coast for years. US primarily was flying PHL-LAX with non-sharkleted A321ceo's at ;east a decade ago.

StTim · Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:21 am

I suppose it depends on how many ACT's were required for coast to coast. This implies no ACT's will be required in future.

Stitch · Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:39 pm

StTim wrote:
I suppose it depends on how many ACT's were required for coast to coast. This implies no ACT's will be required in future.

Does it? It notes "additional fuel tanks can be integrated into the fuselage" which sounds like ACTs.

StTim · Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:52 pm

But they could before Stitch so it is ambiguous.

Polot · Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:00 pm

It is a small comment made by one of Airbus's fuselage suppliers, not Airbus themselves. I wouldn't read too much into it. "Optional additional fuel tanks can be integrated into the fuselage in order to extend the aircraft’s range" == the ACTs we all know about.

They are just saying because of the ACTs customers who select the new layout (only available on the neo) can fly the plane US coast to coast. They are not claiming that the A321 has been unable to do so in the past, or that these optional fuel tanks are something new.

BOEING777EK · Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:02 pm

Its been a long time since an a320NEO has been delivered with PW1100g engines wondering if theres a problem with the engines again like usual

KarelXWB · Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:47 am

BOEING777EK wrote:
Its been a long time since an a320NEO has been delivered with PW1100g engines wondering if theres a problem with the engines again like usual

Did you miss the delivery of MSN 7477 last week?

BOEING777EK · Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:55 am

KarelXWB wrote:
BOEING777EK wrote:
Its been a long time since an a320NEO has been delivered with PW1100g engines wondering if theres a problem with the engines again like usual

Did you miss the delivery of MSN 7477 last week?

Looks like i did

Someone83 · Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:29 am

Another SAS delivery, their 9th

Airbus A320 -251N 7723 SE-ROC SAS delivery 30jun17 XFW-ARN ex D-AXAP

KarelXWB · Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:44 am

Another Wow Air delivered:

Airbus A321 -251N 7694 TF-SKY Wow Air onward delivery 30jun17 TLS-KEF ex D-AZAA

And one more for Pegasus:

Airbus A320 -251N 7703 TC-NBJ Pegasus Airlines delivery 30jun17 TLS-SAW ex F-WWTM

Someone83 · Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:49 am

Bostrom wrote:
According to the Swedish edition of Wikipedia it is scheduled for its first flight saturday next week. Is that possible?

First revenue flight was today, Friday, left for OSL-CHQ this morning

KarelXWB wrote:
Wow Air took delivery of its first A321neo, becoming the 2nd operator of the type.

http://www.airleasecorp.com/press/air-l ... to-wow-air

KarelXWB wrote:
Another Wow Air delivered:

Airbus A321 -251N 7694 TF-SKY Wow Air onward delivery 30jun17 TLS-KEF ex D-AZAA

Isn't this just their first one, being "delivered" for the second time? AFAIK this one was delivered XFW-TLS last week (was it via LBG?). Just like some of their previous deliveres, some of WOW's A32x deliveries seems to be via TLS.

KarelXWB · Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:52 am

Someone83 wrote:
Isn't this just their first one, being "delivered" for the second time? AFAIK this one was delivered XFW-TLS last week (was it via LBG?). Just like some of their previous deliveres, some of WOW's A32x deliveries seems to be via TLS.

You are right, TF-SKY was the one parked at the Paris air show.

dynkrisolo · Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:55 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
BOEING777EK wrote:
Its been a long time since an a320NEO has been delivered with PW1100g engines wondering if theres a problem with the engines again like usual

Did you miss the delivery of MSN 7477 last week?

But with only three of roughly 20 total neo deliveries in the past two months are with PW engines, there is little doubt that they are still having some issues. P&W had mentioned about a 3-week delivery delay due to a supplier mistake, but it appears the delay has been much longer than that.

In fact, there are about 15 more leap-powered neos delivered than GTF-powered neos, despite there were about 10 GTF neos delivered before the first Leap neo was delivered.

KarelXWB · Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:31 pm

dynkrisolo wrote:
But with only three of roughly 20 total neo deliveries in the past two months are with PW engines, there is little doubt that they are still having some issues. P&W had mentioned about a 3-week delivery delay due to a supplier mistake, but it appears the delay has been much longer than that.

Apparently Airbus waited for the bearing #3 seal fix that was introduced in April for the in service fleet, and found its way to the production line in May. In June, several A320neo aircraft in TLS and XFW got their engines installed (including S7 Siberia, China West Air, Tianjin Airlines, Air Astana, Sichuan Airlines and China Southern). It can only be a matter of time before these aircraft get delivered.

KarelXWB · Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:35 pm

Another A321neo delivered:

Airbus A321 -251N 7663 4R-ANC Sri Lankan delivery 01jul17 XFW-DXB-CMB ex D-AVYO

KarelXWB · Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:49 pm

Second China West Air A320neo emerged from final assembly:

China West Air A320-271N msn 7811 by dn280tls, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:28 pm

S7 Siberia Airlines MSN 7629 got its P&W engines installed and performed its first flight today:

Airbus A320 Neo S7 Siberia Airlines VQ-BCF by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

anshabhi · Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:34 pm

No delivery to India since a long time..

KarelXWB · Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:39 pm

anshabhi wrote:
No delivery to India since a long time..

MSN 7662 performed a CAF yesterday, should be delivered soon.

TheGeordielad · Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:23 pm

[twoid][/twoid]

anshabhi wrote:
No delivery to India since a long time..

God just be patient.

anshabhi · Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:27 am

KarelXWB wrote:
anshabhi wrote:
No delivery to India since a long time..

MSN 7662 performed a CAF yesterday, should be delivered soon.

thanks for the info!

817Dreamliiner · Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:12 pm

First Airbus A321neo for Avianca MSN7770

A321neo Avianca by Tobias Gudat, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:31 am

Second easyJet A320neo has moved to the delivery centre:

2nd Airbus A320 Neo Easyjet G-UZHB by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

anshabhi · Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:20 pm

IndiGo says will receive 50 aircraft by March '18, including ATRs.

Expect atleast 30 of them to be NEOs

Then, 13 for GoAir and atleast 5 for Vistara and AI.... over 50 NEOs are coming to India over next 8 months!!

A388 · Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:25 pm

When will Avianca receive it's first A320NEO and do they also have the A319NEO on order? If so, when will they receive their first A319NEO?

A388

KarelXWB · Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:30 pm

A388 wrote:
When will Avianca receive it's first A320NEO

Avianca already received several A320neo aircraft.

KarelXWB · Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:05 pm

Two deliveries today:

Airbus A320 -251N 7682 VT-TNC Vistara delivery 06jul17 TLS-DEL ex F-WWDP

Airbus A320 -251N 7662 VT-EXV Air India delivery 06jul17 TLS-DEL ex F-WWBX

pugman211 · Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:10 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Earlier this month Premium AEROTEC delivered the first A321 fuselage section with the new door configuration.

The extensive changes to the construction primarily facilitate better use of the passenger cabin, enabling the cabin capacity to be expanded from the original 220 passengers to accommodate 240 passengers without increasing the length of the fuselage. These are the most comprehensive changes to the A321 since it was first developed in 1992. Significant differences compared to the existing A321 are a new arrangement of the passenger doors and modernisation of the emergency exit doors in the central section. Furthermore, optional additional fuel tanks can be integrated into the fuselage in order to extend the aircraft’s range. For example, airline companies using the A321neo ACF will be able to fly coast to coast across the US in the future. This model will also offer on-board internet access right from the first aircraft. All of the changes were undertaken using state-of-the-art 3D construction tools.

Press release
https://www.premium-aerotec.com/en/medi ... to-airbus/

Indeed the MSN for this reconfigured A321 is MSN 7877. FAL start should happen end of this month.

KarelXWB · Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:01 pm

Next easyJet delivered:

Airbus A320 -251N 7705 G-UZHB easyJet delivery 10jul17 TLS-LTN eex F-WWTN

StTim · Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:36 pm

First one seems to be pretty successfully used around Europe. Mix of longer and short flights. Two recent bad weather diversions and a few weather delays. Seems to be working well.

speedygonzales · Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:12 am

6904 for IndiGo (ex Qatar) has been ferried back to TLS from DRS in primer:
https://xfw-spotter.blogspot.no/2016/03 ... 7-ajd.html

KarelXWB · Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:44 am

I suppose it has been refurbished to IndiGo standard at DRS?

Indigo A320-271N msn 6904 by dn280tls, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:59 am

Volaris accepted their second A320neo today:

Airbus A320 -271N 7102 N529VL Volaris delivery 11jul17 TLS-KEF-BGR-TLC ex F-WWDX

4 juillet 2017 - VOLARIS - Airbus A 320 NEO F-WWDX msn 7102 - LFBO - TLS by gimbellet, on Flickr

anshabhi · Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:30 am

Ten year old MSN 3063 A320 joins #GoAir fleet as VT-GOT Impact of A320neo delays

https://mobile.twitter.com/khabri_lal/s ... 671616?p=v

Delays with PW NEO continue.... They have been delaying their intl plans for almost an year now, because of delays with NEO.

pugman211 · Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:26 am

This must be a temporary issue with PW engine supplies as another new a/c for Indigo will be starting FAL build soon. I.e, they are not deffering planes.

And the rate of Neo's being built per week hasn't slowed down either.

KarelXWB · Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:07 pm

Lufthansa's next A320neo (MSN 7577 / D-AINF), has been moved to the XFW delivery centre:

A320neo Lufthansa D-AINF by Tobias Gudat, on Flickr

According to a spotter list, China Southern's first A321neo has also moved to the delivery centre:

Delivery Centre
D-AVXM A21N 7548 China Southern fcs (369 on nwd)
D-AUBF A320 7577 Lufthansa fcs (NF on tail, nwd)
D-AZAB A321 7697 SriLankan fcs (ND on tail, nwd)
D-AYAY A321 7706 Wizzair fcs (LXT on nwd)
D-AVYW A321 7732 American Airlines fcs (907 on nwd)
D-AXAU A320 7742 Air Cote D’Ivoire fcs (SV on nwd)
B-8567 A321 7759 China Eastern fcs [CES9002 D1302 on delivery]
D-AZAP A321 7774 Air China fcs
D-AZAC A321 7783 white cls (for Tianjin Airlines?)

https://digitalairliners.com/2017/07/08 ... fw-872017/

KarelXWB · Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:23 pm

The A319neo test aircraft flew to Seville today, most likely to conduct noise tests.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... wa#e12a284

KarelXWB · Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:16 pm

More movements today:

1) Another Novair A321neo emerged from final assembly:

A321neo Apollo SE-RKB by Tobias Gudat, on Flickr

2) Second SriLankan A321neo performed a taxi test:

A321neo SriLankan 4R-AND by Tobias Gudat, on Flickr

3) Third ANA A320neo has been on the move:

A320neo ANA JA213A by Tobias Gudat, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:38 am

Another SAS delivered:

Airbus A320 -251N 7755 SE-ROD SAS delivery 14jul17 XFW-ARN ex D-AXAK

KarelXWB · Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:19 pm

EASA type certificate data sheet now includes the ETOPS ratings for the NEO:

https://www.easa.europa.eu/system/files ... Iss_29.pdf

lightsaber · Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:59 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
EASA type certificate data sheet now includes the ETOPS ratings for the NEO:

https://www.easa.europa.eu/system/files ... Iss_29.pdf

That is great to see.

I'm a Pratt fan, but I wonder how they met the in flight shutdown rules.

Lightsaber

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